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[GSL] Idra vs Acupuncture analysis (opening day)

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mrkent
Profile Joined January 2010
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 08:23:10
September 01 2010 02:42 GMT
#1
Name: 허준과침제니스 aka Acupuncture aka JiTaeHun
Race: Terren
Clan: Zenith

Achievements:
No longer on the 8./31/2010 top 200 list
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/24/2010) - 190
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/17/2010) - 101
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/10/2010) - 132

14 win streak in Gisado's Korean KOTH (8/8/2010)
8 win streak in Gisado's Korean KOTH (7/30/2010)

53.3% Bnet record

Has been training in custom games exclusively according to his match history, so may have been getting better.

Replays:
TvZ
8/20: vs cool
8/21: vs oGsTheWinD
8/25: vs jAnGyUk #1
8/25: vs jAnGyUk #2
8/26: vs cool

TvT
8/30: vs Hyperdub

Results:
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8/20: vs cool L
8/21: vs oGsTheWinD W
8/25: vs jAnGyUk #1 Disc or something
8/25: vs jAnGyUk #2 W (gg)
8/26: vs cool L (gg)

8/30: vs Hyperdub L


Analysis:
This guy has very good micro and harassment abilities. All TvZ replays are of him ghost dropping + vikings. He spends a lot on tech and as a result have few units, and doesn't expand very quickly, even if his 2nd CC is already completed. Macro is a little weak as he gets supply blocked often. It seems like he has catches his zerg opponents off guard with his innovative strategy, but can be defeated by roaches or baneling bust (if he doesn't double wall). He may be a 1 trick pony, but his ghost usage could be more refined by GSL opening day.

I do think idra can easily beat him as long as he knows what to expect and scout for.
Good luck to you sir!

Anyone got more info on him?


EDIT: I will post all the info I got on the opponents of TLO, Artosis, and TorcH as well here, but doesn't really call for their own thread since info is limited. Again, if anyone got more info, share please.

NEXFreeSaGA vs Artosis
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Name: NEXFreeSaGA
Race: Protoss


Achievements:
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/31/2010) - 114
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/24/2010) - N/A
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/17/2010) - 178
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/10/2010) - 120

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/244073/NEXFreeSaGA

WTF Takedown #2: vs AugustWeRRA (T)



http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=411
http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=412


Losira vs TLO
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LosirA
Zerg


http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/1164779/1/LosirA/
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/1164779/LosirA


SlayerS vs TorcH
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SlayerS
Protoss


KR Bnet top 200 list (8/31/2010) - 153

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/81719/SlayerS
53.43% 1v1 wins

http://rts-sanctuary.com/index.php?portal=SC2&showtopic=189631
http://sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=559
http://sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=713
http://sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=867


I haven't watched all their replays yet, so I cannot provide an analysis, but it seems like Losira and SlayerS are relatively low key, clanless players. FreeSaga however is in a pretty strong clan, but I don't think Artosis should get far simply because of the conflict of interest.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
September 01 2010 02:43 GMT
#2
on paper IdrA is def the favourite to win.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
September 01 2010 02:46 GMT
#3
on paper, Acupuncture is genetically superior to Idra. :p

btw, do Idra ever BM in Korean matches?
...from the land of imba
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 02:54:26
September 01 2010 02:49 GMT
#4
i really think the westerners have a great shot to do well. hopefully more make their way over soon.
:O
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
September 01 2010 02:50 GMT
#5
ghost drops? that sounds interested, altho gas intensive. but I know once I went like mass ghost (well, 8 ghosts + MMM ball) vs zerg and I just used pure sniping hydras/mutas/anything really, and wow did it do some insane damage.. So I can only imagine how fast a ghost drop could take out a whole drone line.

I want idra to nerdrage at a live event =]
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kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
September 01 2010 02:53 GMT
#6
ah, he's the "ghost-guy". ^^'

Seen some nice reps of him....
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SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
September 01 2010 02:54 GMT
#7
IdrAis the favourite but he has to play seriously. Zenith clan has really good players.
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awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
September 01 2010 02:57 GMT
#8
On September 01 2010 11:46 dybydx wrote:
on paper, Acupuncture is genetically superior to Idra. :p

btw, do Idra ever BM in Korean matches?

i don't think so, i think in an interview he did while living in the CJ house, he said he respected the korean players because they were obviously better than him so he didn't BM
cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 02:59:44
September 01 2010 02:58 GMT
#9
I'm just worried that IdrA might rage at the ghost plays. At Artosis vlog he said hes not expecting to lose until faced with cool or tester. I hope this attitude dont bite him too early in the tournament.

I saw this guy playing against cool. He got a nuke off and that was fun lol. Actually mayb we will get to see IdrA rage at a Korean for once LOL

"You r very good at Nuking.... Nuking is a very good skill toi have"
Play Terran
Nu11
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada167 Posts
September 01 2010 03:00 GMT
#10
I watched this guy play vs. CellaWeRRa this morning. He has incredible micro abilities and is very very good at sniping queens, overseers and nuking with his ghosts. He also likes to double drop (8marines in the back) and then use his ghost to snipe off important units.

Cella did win all the games I watched this morning but I tell you that cella told us he was very used to playing vs. this guy and if you are not prepared for his insane micro and ghost ability you will be overrun and unable to focus.

I hope idrA has looked him up.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
September 01 2010 03:04 GMT
#11
i recall seeing day9 casting the morrow v idra match and comments on how idra lose focus and start to make mistakes when under pressure.

in other words, idra dont respond well to harass and crumbles to "skill-less newbies".
...from the land of imba
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 03:09:19
September 01 2010 03:06 GMT
#12
What is his prior record? Sounds like a WC3 player to me (better micro than macro, "hero"-unit oriented). I wish IdrA succeeds, but it won't be easy, for sure. This guy has almost all the qualities that are the worst for IdrA to deal with, including the race.
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Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
September 01 2010 03:07 GMT
#13
Thanks for all the info on Idra's opponent, getting pumped for waking up at 5:30 EST on saturday (or just 'staying up until,' its a toss-up).

Hopefully we're in for some great games.
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
September 01 2010 03:08 GMT
#14
he can micro, so 5 rax reaper and idra is in trouble, unless he has something better then his build v morrow (is there anything better? I havent seen it)
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Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
September 01 2010 03:09 GMT
#15
On September 01 2010 11:46 dybydx wrote:
on paper, Acupuncture is genetically superior to Idra. :p

btw, do Idra ever BM in Korean matches?


Not the games that I've seen. (I mean Tester cannon rushed him twice XD and he gg'd)

Besides the point, I wish him luck as long as he remembers $85,000 is on the line and comes with new builds I think he has a shot .
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 01 2010 03:12 GMT
#16
lol i love how this tourney could end up being an anime lol

FIRST OPPONENT: USES GHOST WITH DROPS VERY GOOD MICRO

[image loading]
MUST HOLLDDDDD
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
September 01 2010 03:14 GMT
#17
On September 01 2010 12:09 Merikh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 11:46 dybydx wrote:
on paper, Acupuncture is genetically superior to Idra. :p

btw, do Idra ever BM in Korean matches?


Not the games that I've seen. (I mean Tester cannon rushed him twice XD and he gg'd)

Besides the point, I wish him luck as long as he remembers $85,000 is on the line and comes with new builds I think he has a shot .


In the GOM videos, Artosis was joking w/ Idra about how many of the Koreans walking in have cheesed them and been subject to their flames. I think Idra just BMs people who beat him that he thinks are worse than him. So in BW he never flamed Koreans because they were all equal/better. He also respects Tester. I don't think we've seen him publicly lose to a cheese by a worse Korean yet. Stay tuned.
Noev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1105 Posts
September 01 2010 03:22 GMT
#18
I thought TLO was our tricky pony
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
September 01 2010 03:29 GMT
#19
IdrA would never 'ragequit' in a event like GSL. As far as i know, there is a rule to say GG after game. If you don't, you might get a warning or disqualification. IdrA ain't idiot.
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Eeeegor
Profile Joined April 2005
Australia809 Posts
September 01 2010 03:35 GMT
#20
Nice break down - hope Idra advances through him
Day9 Made Me Do It
mrkent
Profile Joined January 2010
United States160 Posts
September 01 2010 03:38 GMT
#21
On September 01 2010 12:04 dybydx wrote:
i recall seeing day9 casting the morrow v idra match and comments on how idra lose focus and start to make mistakes when under pressure.

in other words, idra dont respond well to harass and crumbles to "skill-less newbies".


I agree. But hopefully idra has learned from that experience. And to make myself more clear (about idra winning), I think idra needs to get a feel for what this type of harassment is capable of, and be willing to spend a little on spores and extra queens. A front door nydas worm like the 2nd game with jAnGyUk can work very well by putting pressure back on, while not making jAnGyUk's mistakes.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
September 01 2010 03:44 GMT
#22
Damn this is very intense isn't it ^_^ especially when you are on Idra's side. An opponent that tries to use ghost at its max potential and does ghost drops. Like were hunting down these players and are trying to figure every piece of information before engaging them.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 04:01:30
September 01 2010 04:01 GMT
#23
Maybe we'll see one of those exceedingly rare Idra cheeses and he'll go baneling bust.
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TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
September 01 2010 04:05 GMT
#24
I don't think idra will have much trouble with him
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
September 01 2010 04:10 GMT
#25
Zenith isn't as popular as oGs or Werra, but they're definitely good. There is no reason to underestimate any of the people IdrA might face.
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Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
September 01 2010 05:06 GMT
#26
Interesting, IdrA seems to worse agaisnt unorthodox builds.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
September 01 2010 05:18 GMT
#27
EEDRA FWIGHTINNNNNNNNNG. He's got this i'm sure, Theres top tier koreans, then theres a large gap between them and the players who are at the top of the ladder. IdrA will easily make it into top 8, unless he plays a few more terrans on the way.
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gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
September 01 2010 05:21 GMT
#28
Idra fighting!
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
September 01 2010 06:02 GMT
#29
On September 01 2010 12:00 Nu11 wrote:
I watched this guy play vs. CellaWeRRa this morning. He has incredible micro abilities and is very very good at sniping queens, overseers and nuking with his ghosts. He also likes to double drop (8marines in the back) and then use his ghost to snipe off important units.

Cella did win all the games I watched this morning but I tell you that cella told us he was very used to playing vs. this guy and if you are not prepared for his insane micro and ghost ability you will be overrun and unable to focus.

I hope idrA has looked him up.


Judging by the large number of ladder games he has on the Korean server, I'm pretty sure IdrA has a pretty good feeling for most of the players that he'll have to face. Then again, he does have very particular views: I still remember him saying how WeRRa is basically a clan of cheesing noobs or something to that effect.
What this
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 01 2010 06:05 GMT
#30
On September 01 2010 11:58 cive wrote:
I'm just worried that IdrA might rage at the ghost plays. At Artosis vlog he said hes not expecting to lose until faced with cool or tester. I hope this attitude dont bite him too early in the tournament.

I saw this guy playing against cool. He got a nuke off and that was fun lol. Actually mayb we will get to see IdrA rage at a Korean for once LOL

"You r very good at Nuking.... Nuking is a very good skill toi have"

But Idra is going to rape him so it doesnt matter
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 01 2010 06:05 GMT
#31
On September 01 2010 11:57 awu25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 11:46 dybydx wrote:
on paper, Acupuncture is genetically superior to Idra. :p

btw, do Idra ever BM in Korean matches?

i don't think so, i think in an interview he did while living in the CJ house, he said he respected the korean players because they were obviously better than him so he didn't BM


But that's because the Korean players were so much better than him in SC1. But he's clearly among the best in SC2...
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
September 01 2010 06:07 GMT
#32
Agreed. I don't think IdrA is going into this like a true "foreigner." He has experiences against all of these players. He has contacts within Korea who can likely give him the low-down on individual opponents. He's probably done practice matches with the different clans there.

In short, I think IdrA will be ready for this guy.
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
September 01 2010 06:10 GMT
#33
On September 01 2010 13:01 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Maybe we'll see one of those exceedingly rare Idra cheeses and he'll go baneling bust.


I think IdrA is almost guaranteed a win if he cheeses because everyone plays him with the assurance that he will not cheese.

This may not be the best place to ask but how is GSL formatted. Is it single elimination, bo3, or bo5?
^O^
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
September 01 2010 06:15 GMT
#34
On September 01 2010 12:00 Nu11 wrote:
I watched this guy play vs. CellaWeRRa this morning. He has incredible micro abilities and is very very good at sniping queens, overseers and nuking with his ghosts. He also likes to double drop (8marines in the back) and then use his ghost to snipe off important units.


I would really hate playing against that as Zerg. Loosing queens hurts macro a lot. Also, remaking overseers is soooo gas intensive. Who knows, maybe this will be one of the first pro games I've seen where spore crawlers actually do something useful

I think I'm going to wish for the return of scourge (in HotS) after this game...
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 01 2010 06:34 GMT
#35
On September 01 2010 15:10 Moa wrote:
Is it single elimination, bo3, or bo5?
Here says: "The format will be single elimination. (Bo3 for Ro64~Ro8, Bo5 semi, Bo7 finals)"
(i was hoping for RR group rounds too, but nope; i think groups are more interesting)
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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 01 2010 06:40 GMT
#36
Idra should win. But he should've beaten Morrow too so you never know =\.
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
September 01 2010 06:40 GMT
#37
So many people are like "LOLZ IDRA COMPLTLY BREAKS DOWN UNDER PRESSURE HES GON LOSE JUST HARASS".

Doesn't everyone? IdrA handles it better than most. I don't think he'll have much trouble with this guy.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
September 01 2010 06:53 GMT
#38
On September 01 2010 15:40 KissBlade wrote:
Idra should win. But he should've beaten Morrow too so you never know =\.


This is what I'm thinking. Idra himself has said that korean terrans suck on ladder. They are the cheesiest, most uorthodox players so you'd think Idra would've been able to repel the 5 rax reaper rush of Morrow's. Morrow hadn't even been working on his reaper micro for THAT long either.
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Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
September 01 2010 07:05 GMT
#39
On September 01 2010 12:04 dybydx wrote:
i recall seeing day9 casting the morrow v idra match and comments on how idra lose focus and start to make mistakes when under pressure.

in other words, idra dont respond well to harass and crumbles to "skill-less newbies".

I wouldn't call Morrow a skill-less newbie. Putting pressure on like he did takes a lot of effort and doesn't allow for slip ups. Not taking anything away from your argument that IdrA need(ed/s) training in that area, it doesn't help that his opponent plays terran of course.
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PanzerKing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States483 Posts
September 01 2010 07:19 GMT
#40
On September 01 2010 15:53 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 15:40 KissBlade wrote:
Idra should win. But he should've beaten Morrow too so you never know =\.


This is what I'm thinking. Idra himself has said that korean terrans suck on ladder. They are the cheesiest, most uorthodox players so you'd think Idra would've been able to repel the 5 rax reaper rush of Morrow's. Morrow hadn't even been working on his reaper micro for THAT long either.


Maybe it's time to start taking Idra's words with a grain of salt?
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Spell_Crafted
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States192 Posts
September 01 2010 07:44 GMT
#41
I'm pretty sure IdrA will see this kind of stuff coming. I looked at one of the replays and he really is kind of going all in with those ghosts. Sure, they were really effective, but prior to the ghost coming out, he had 1 marine. It was impressive, but there were definitely huge holes in the macro.
This is the kind of play that I think IdrA will be able to respond to well since he's going to be allowed his expo and get a strong economy by the time the first ghost shows up. I've got faith! IdrA to RO32.
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HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
September 01 2010 09:41 GMT
#42
So this guy has this one trick up his sleeve and it's safe to assume that IdrA knows this and can prepare for it.


Yeah... I don't think IdrA will be in any trouble. But I haven't watched the replays yet and I don't know any more about this guy than from what I have read in this thread.
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
September 01 2010 10:56 GMT
#43
his dropship micro is pretty good, but macro lacks.
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Alexstrasas
Profile Joined August 2010
302 Posts
September 01 2010 13:44 GMT
#44

Idra fanboys are forgetting two things.

One is that this guy also has time to further improve this build covering some issues that he had in those replays that OP posted
Two is that while Idra is getting prepared to counter this build he can go for something completly different.

What is my opinion on the outcome? No ideia! I think we should just wait and see.
Would be cool if Idra raged tough.
yypisces
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan244 Posts
September 01 2010 15:28 GMT
#45
here is some replays from the two players:

http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/index?search=idra

http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/index?search=허준과침제니스
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ShadowReaver
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada563 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 18:39:29
September 01 2010 17:37 GMT
#46
Nice scouting report. Idra should be able to take this one though. Idra has done better lately under pressure. I see Idra picking up the advantage by mid game for the win.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
September 01 2010 17:40 GMT
#47
Heh nice TL scouting report for Idra =). It'd be cool if we saw more of this kind of thing. And hey, maybe it will be helpful to Idra ... you never know.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
September 01 2010 17:48 GMT
#48
if ghosts are the guy's gimmick, he's not gonna even take a game off idra
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
September 01 2010 17:52 GMT
#49
Cool thread Even though Idra might not feel it, I feel like we're all invested in this together.
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koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 18:10:09
September 01 2010 18:09 GMT
#50
There was a thread a while back warning players not to "metagame" and prepare too specifically for a player. It's probably better just to prepare against "Terran" in general, but to be wary of any peculiar strategies a player uses.

It's probably a good idea to read their latest BOs on battlenet2.0, though.
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 18:22:28
September 01 2010 18:20 GMT
#51
On September 01 2010 15:40 KissBlade wrote:
Idra should win. But he should've beaten Morrow too so you never know =\.


Morrow is actually really good though....., Much better than the person IdrA is playing here for sure. But yeah, favourites are always too ...favored.
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Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
September 01 2010 18:39 GMT
#52
On September 02 2010 02:52 Chill wrote:
Cool thread Even though Idra might not feel it, I feel like we're all invested in this together.

He's the hometown (anti-)hero for North America, or perhaps even for the world outside of South Korea.
^O^
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
September 01 2010 18:48 GMT
#53
On September 02 2010 02:52 Chill wrote:
Cool thread Even though Idra might not feel it, I feel like we're all invested in this together.


Naw, deep down inside, he loves the attention and loves these threads. He is an ultralisk on the outside but in the inside he is a cute little changeling

I think it will be close but IdrA will take it :!
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Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
September 01 2010 20:05 GMT
#54
Haha, this was such a cool thread.

Anyone else think this has hyped the games up ALOT more?
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 22:08:55
September 01 2010 22:03 GMT
#55
It definitely has hyped it 10x more for me ... and it's only the opening round =). If anyone wants to analyze TLO, Torch, and Artosis' opponent that'd be great as well!

Edit: Even just starting up a thread introducing the Korean opponent and finding some replays so the TL community can comment on them would be pretty cool and potentially helpful to our GSL heroes.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
September 01 2010 22:08 GMT
#56
Idra will handle it fine as long as he doesn't get LT. Ghost play is really dumb if Idra knows it's coming. I doubt he can touch Idra in a long game so as always, if he gets out of early game in an ok situation, he'll win.
akomatic
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
156 Posts
September 01 2010 22:21 GMT
#57
1st Set - Metalopolis
2nd Set - Scrap Station
3rd Set - Xel'Naga Caverns

Wondering if ro64 will have same maps as qualifiers.
..Bears!
tacrats
Profile Joined July 2010
476 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 22:22:50
September 01 2010 22:22 GMT
#58
On September 01 2010 15:53 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 15:40 KissBlade wrote:
Idra should win. But he should've beaten Morrow too so you never know =\.


This is what I'm thinking. Idra himself has said that korean terrans suck on ladder. They are the cheesiest, most uorthodox players so you'd think Idra would've been able to repel the 5 rax reaper rush of Morrow's. Morrow hadn't even been working on his reaper micro for THAT long either.


koreans do play like that. they always do stuff like flying in factories into enemy bases, etc. thats the unorthodox idra is talking about. not some mass reaper build (which is very difficult to deal with fyi, and even morrow said is imba, so saying idra should have repelled it is ignorant.).



koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
September 01 2010 22:40 GMT
#59
Do we need to pay to watch opening matches?
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alfybet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States57 Posts
September 02 2010 05:48 GMT
#60
From the GOM site:
http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/news/177

MATCH 1. Greg Fields [IdrA] vs Tea Hoon Ji [허준과침제니스]
- SET 1 - Xel'Naga Caverns
- SET 2 - Desert Oasis
- SET 3 - Scrap Station

Following maps are chosen to be excluded by each player before the drawing.
- Greg Fields [IdrA] : Kulas Ravin, Lost Temple
- Tea Hoon Ji [허준과침제니스] : Blistering Sands, Meta Opolis

Whoa, Desert Oasis.
illumination
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)248 Posts
September 02 2010 05:52 GMT
#61
sounds like the counter to idra actually, gimmicky player with bad macro
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
September 02 2010 06:00 GMT
#62
lol he took out metalopolis. I predict 2:1 with Idra taking the win!
rip passion
DuneBug
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
September 02 2010 06:36 GMT
#63
desert oasis should be interesting. im not sure i've seen any recent high level games on that map.
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mrkent
Profile Joined January 2010
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 08:08:23
September 02 2010 08:08 GMT
#64
On September 02 2010 07:03 lac29 wrote:
It definitely has hyped it 10x more for me ... and it's only the opening round =). If anyone wants to analyze TLO, Torch, and Artosis' opponent that'd be great as well!

Edit: Even just starting up a thread introducing the Korean opponent and finding some replays so the TL community can comment on them would be pretty cool and potentially helpful to our GSL heroes.


I was actually already on it, but didn't decide to post a thread on each person because info on them were lacking. I'll add it to the OP since u asked.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
September 02 2010 17:38 GMT
#65
heres a cast of Acupuncture.. very awesome style, im glad to see it, although sad that zergs have one more thing to worry about in ZvT lol poor zergies.

http://sc2casts.com/cast579-Acupuncture-vs-JanGyUk-1-Game-No-Event-Korean-Games
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Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
September 02 2010 17:54 GMT
#66
On September 01 2010 12:12 never_toss wrote:
lol i love how this tourney could end up being an anime lol

FIRST OPPONENT: USES GHOST WITH DROPS VERY GOOD MICRO

[image loading]
MUST HOLLDDDDD


Hahahaha, it would be such a classic scenario.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
September 02 2010 17:57 GMT
#67
Please make that a TL sc2 "rooting for our pros in korea" meme!
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
September 04 2010 02:40 GMT
#68
o lord Desert Oasis. 5 rax reapers yo
durza
Profile Joined August 2009
United States667 Posts
September 04 2010 03:08 GMT
#69
Well done, hoping Idra will be ready. Hes the better player, lets hope that he is also the better gamer.
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
September 04 2010 05:11 GMT
#70
I look foward to great games either way.
Practical wisdom is the combination of moral will and moral skill
Alexstrasas
Profile Joined August 2010
302 Posts
September 04 2010 17:58 GMT
#71
i missed it, anyone care to fill in what took place?
Hunch
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada336 Posts
September 04 2010 18:01 GMT
#72
On September 05 2010 02:58 Alexstrasas wrote:
i missed it, anyone care to fill in what took place?


a noob got owned and a nerd went through
I have a Hunch.770
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
September 04 2010 18:02 GMT
#73
IdrA held off his repaers first game and the terran kept sending in small forces that idra beat easily and just outmacroed and won, 2nd game on DO guy tried ghost drops with nukes idrA went mutas held it off and eventually won after killing off many drops and small attacks.
Sealteam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia296 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 18:04:43
September 04 2010 18:04 GMT
#74
I didn't catch the first game in its entirety due to stream issues but seemed like Idra comfortably stomped terran fairly standard bio play with ling/bling/muta on Xel'Naga.

Desert oasis was kinda cool, ghost drop rush with a nuke on the main, but Idra didn't build a single pair of lings for the first few minutes of the game so his macro just outshot by a long way, destroyed a few one-base marine+ghost drops with muta play on Desert Oasis to force a GG.

Basically this guy was nowhere near the standard of Idra.

Edit: Slow typer at 4am =P
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 04 2010 18:06 GMT
#75
terran looked like trash game 1.

Game 2 he had some cool ideas but after they KINDA worked the follow up was bad.

Congrats to IdrA taking care of business on the big stage but that was a fairly easy first round opponent I'd think. That or he made him look easy hehe
JudoChopper
Profile Joined August 2010
England148 Posts
September 04 2010 18:06 GMT
#76
Yeah also the nukes were rubbish, there were 2 nuke drops, killed 2 workers? and 4 extractors, 2nd ghost got surrounded by Zerglings and fully loaded Medivacs got owned by Mutas.
no
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 02:14:28
September 05 2010 02:12 GMT
#77
You have to give it to him for being creative though, the nuke drop came SO damn fast, definitely the most original thing to see since release imo. I could see it really flustering someone who wasn't expecting it.
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
September 05 2010 02:22 GMT
#78
it was definitely cool nukes, but they didn't really do too much and the followup left him dead.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
September 05 2010 02:26 GMT
#79
where are the vods for this? or do we have to pay for them?
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
September 05 2010 02:29 GMT
#80
Idra is way too fundamentally sound to beat with cheeze/gimmickry if you can't back it up with a seriously high skill level. I mean, originality is great and all, but this is a guy whose trained for 12 hours a day to basically make the exact same build viable in almost every matchup against every strat--the element of surprise may help a little, but ultimately you're gonna have to outplay him even if you do throw him off his game, and there aren't that many players right now who can do that.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
guMmiwormz
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States312 Posts
September 05 2010 02:31 GMT
#81
On September 05 2010 11:26 unit wrote:
where are the vods for this? or do we have to pay for them?


you can find the 1st vod of it on gomtv.net for engish commentary. unless you dont want to pay you cant watch the second. theres vods of the second game with korean commentary on wfbrood. theres a link somewhere on the forums.
MasterZilla
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Sweden234 Posts
September 05 2010 11:18 GMT
#82
On September 05 2010 11:26 unit wrote:
where are the vods for this? or do we have to pay for them?


You get the first of every Bo3 for free, the rest you have to pay for.

That being said, they currently have a package deal where it's $19,95 for full live access and all VODs. For me personally, that wasn't something I even had to think about, seeing as there will be over 100 VODs included in that.
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