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On August 29 2010 04:39 Kennigit wrote:Proximity = distance....used to imply an unusually shore distance from building to nme base. You just got served by self. i'm not arguing about the definition of proximity. i'm saying that proxy is not short for proximity, but has a different meaning instead. technically proximity could be right as they're using it, but one of them tried to explain earlier that people say proxy meaning proximity, which isn't true.
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They confuse themselves. They dont realize the factors that lead to wins and losses (eg. upgrade timing) . It's unpleasant to listen to them for the most part.
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I think proxy is a nice term for when you go as far as building a small group of unit producing structures near an enemy, because then it's actually a war by proxy as you designate a specific group of your units and buildings outside of your main base to wage war and just support them economically. I guess not many people know the term that well though, so they think it's short for proximity and then use the word that way.
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I think that HD and Husky would be better with a more experienced caster like Artosis and Day9.
HD + Day and Husky + Day was refreshing 
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On August 29 2010 04:44 Antoine wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 04:39 Kennigit wrote:On August 29 2010 04:31 Antoine wrote: proxy DOES NOT MEAN proximity Proximity = distance....used to imply an unusually shore distance from building to nme base. You just got served by self. i'm not arguing about the definition of proximity. i'm saying that proxy is not short for proximity, but has a different meaning instead. technically proximity could be right as they're using it, but one of them tried to explain earlier that people say proxy meaning proximity, which isn't true.
Basically you are arguing that you have no idea what you are talking about, and are trying to save some face, meanwhile making your self look like a complete idiot.

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Just got home from work, which games did they switch up the casters? Just interested to see how Husky and HD work with Day9 and JP.
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When did Proxy pylons start getting called 'proximity pylons'? Am I just nitpicking or is changing a well established term seem kind of annoying?
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All i can say is that the MLG comercials are so much better than the ESL comercials rofled at almost every one of them.
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I like them all. Day 9 focuses more on the strategy, HD and Husky are more focused on the excitement. I think people underestimating their understanding of the game. I just watched the Huk vs Kiwikaki match and they covered the strategy aspects very well while still emphasizing the excitement of the big battles. Imo they are very good for the SC2 community, highlighting how entertaining SC2 can be.
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Finals=Huk v Winner of Kiwikaki and Socke? All Protoss?
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On August 29 2010 04:56 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 04:44 Antoine wrote:On August 29 2010 04:39 Kennigit wrote:On August 29 2010 04:31 Antoine wrote: proxy DOES NOT MEAN proximity Proximity = distance....used to imply an unusually shore distance from building to nme base. You just got served by self. i'm not arguing about the definition of proximity. i'm saying that proxy is not short for proximity, but has a different meaning instead. technically proximity could be right as they're using it, but one of them tried to explain earlier that people say proxy meaning proximity, which isn't true. Basically you are arguing that you have no idea what you are talking about, and are trying to save some face, meanwhile making your self look like a complete idiot.  yeah you caught me 
Mothxal did a good job summarizing about the difference. It's annoying that HD and Husky are changing terminology from something I, and the whole rest of the community, have used for years.
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On August 29 2010 04:39 Kennigit wrote:Proximity = distance....used to imply an unusually shore distance from building to nme base. You just got served by self.
FUCKING OWNED gtfo bitch proxy means proximity aka near distance. GTFO troll! HD and Husky are doing great! Whoever is hating shouldn't even watch the MLG at all!
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On August 29 2010 04:56 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 04:44 Antoine wrote:On August 29 2010 04:39 Kennigit wrote:On August 29 2010 04:31 Antoine wrote: proxy DOES NOT MEAN proximity Proximity = distance....used to imply an unusually shore distance from building to nme base. You just got served by self. i'm not arguing about the definition of proximity. i'm saying that proxy is not short for proximity, but has a different meaning instead. technically proximity could be right as they're using it, but one of them tried to explain earlier that people say proxy meaning proximity, which isn't true. Basically you are arguing that you have no idea what you are talking about, and are trying to save some face, meanwhile making your self look like a complete idiot. 
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Proxy
Edit: to the post above, seriously? Go back to battle.net.
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On August 29 2010 04:58 Aurdon wrote: When did Proxy pylons start getting called 'proximity pylons'? Am I just nitpicking or is changing a well established term seem kind of annoying?
It's just a really common misconception among people that proxy has always been short for proximity because it's an easier term to understand the application of than proxy. It's easy to see where the confusion comes from.
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On August 29 2010 05:02 Antoine wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 04:56 emperorchampion wrote:On August 29 2010 04:44 Antoine wrote:On August 29 2010 04:39 Kennigit wrote:On August 29 2010 04:31 Antoine wrote: proxy DOES NOT MEAN proximity Proximity = distance....used to imply an unusually shore distance from building to nme base. You just got served by self. i'm not arguing about the definition of proximity. i'm saying that proxy is not short for proximity, but has a different meaning instead. technically proximity could be right as they're using it, but one of them tried to explain earlier that people say proxy meaning proximity, which isn't true. Basically you are arguing that you have no idea what you are talking about, and are trying to save some face, meanwhile making your self look like a complete idiot.  yeah you caught me  Mothxal did a good job summarizing about the difference. It's annoying that HD and Husky are changing terminology from something I, and the whole rest of the community, have used for years.
So what you're saying is you get annoyed because people don't use the same lingo as you do? Because people do not talk the same way you do?
That's ridiculous.
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On August 29 2010 05:03 Killmour wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 04:56 emperorchampion wrote:On August 29 2010 04:44 Antoine wrote:On August 29 2010 04:39 Kennigit wrote:On August 29 2010 04:31 Antoine wrote: proxy DOES NOT MEAN proximity Proximity = distance....used to imply an unusually shore distance from building to nme base. You just got served by self. i'm not arguing about the definition of proximity. i'm saying that proxy is not short for proximity, but has a different meaning instead. technically proximity could be right as they're using it, but one of them tried to explain earlier that people say proxy meaning proximity, which isn't true. Basically you are arguing that you have no idea what you are talking about, and are trying to save some face, meanwhile making your self look like a complete idiot.  http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Proxy
Incoming edit:
"Also commonly used in place of the word proximity."
F'ing language, how does it work?
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At least Sean and JP are covering the grand finals! :D
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On August 29 2010 05:03 floor exercise wrote: It's just a really common misconception among people that proxy has always been short for proximity because it's an easier term to understand the application of than proxy. It's easy to see where the confusion comes from. Even if the audience understands what proxy means (not everyone will), it's hard to make the connection of what the building is actually a proxy for. If it's a barracks, it's a proxy for... placing barracks at your main and marching the units across the map. It's really unintuitive. Ideally we'd replace all the random terms like 'cheese' and 'gosu' and the such but obviously they're too entrenched.
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On August 29 2010 05:03 Killmour wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 04:56 emperorchampion wrote:On August 29 2010 04:44 Antoine wrote:On August 29 2010 04:39 Kennigit wrote:On August 29 2010 04:31 Antoine wrote: proxy DOES NOT MEAN proximity Proximity = distance....used to imply an unusually shore distance from building to nme base. You just got served by self. i'm not arguing about the definition of proximity. i'm saying that proxy is not short for proximity, but has a different meaning instead. technically proximity could be right as they're using it, but one of them tried to explain earlier that people say proxy meaning proximity, which isn't true. Basically you are arguing that you have no idea what you are talking about, and are trying to save some face, meanwhile making your self look like a complete idiot.  http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/ProxyEdit: to the post above, seriously? Go back to battle.net.
Liquipedia to the rescue! I always thought it meant "proxy" and not "proximity" but HD made me begin to doubt myself. Never again.
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On August 29 2010 05:04 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 05:02 Antoine wrote:On August 29 2010 04:56 emperorchampion wrote:On August 29 2010 04:44 Antoine wrote:On August 29 2010 04:39 Kennigit wrote:On August 29 2010 04:31 Antoine wrote: proxy DOES NOT MEAN proximity Proximity = distance....used to imply an unusually shore distance from building to nme base. You just got served by self. i'm not arguing about the definition of proximity. i'm saying that proxy is not short for proximity, but has a different meaning instead. technically proximity could be right as they're using it, but one of them tried to explain earlier that people say proxy meaning proximity, which isn't true. Basically you are arguing that you have no idea what you are talking about, and are trying to save some face, meanwhile making your self look like a complete idiot.  yeah you caught me  Mothxal did a good job summarizing about the difference. It's annoying that HD and Husky are changing terminology from something I, and the whole rest of the community, have used for years. So what you're saying is you get annoyed because people don't use the same lingo as you do? Because people do not talk the same way you do? That's ridiculous. It's easy to notice these differences in lingo, and that kind of ruins the flow a commentator should have. It's like if they repeatedly pronounce a word wrong or is saying Citadel of Adun instead of Twilight Council, sure, it's not that big of a deal, but you still notice it and it's annoying.
And it's not just the lingo Antoine uses, it's the lingo the whole community uses.
But as I said, it isn't that big of deal. It's not like HD is a bad caster for saying proximity instead of proxy, but it's still annoying.
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