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TheDna
Germany577 Posts
I dont dislike Husky i thought the kitten video was great, but imo its not enough to be a good general caster sometimes you should be at least familiar with the general strats and openings and generally what happens in the game atm. Also day9 is very good at hiding his opinion about balance if he even has one and tries to be as neutral as possible. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 28 2010 22:22 TheDna wrote: I have to say that i liked the first games D9 and co casted but had to turn the stream off as soon as the HDH crew stepped on the mic. I felt so trolled and it was painful to listen to some of the simply wrong commentaries i couldnt stand it anymore and decided to go to bed. I dont dislike Husky i thought the kitten video was great, but imo its not enough to be a good general caster sometimes you should be at least familiar with the general strats and openings and generally what happens in the game atm. Also day9 is very good at hiding his opinion about balance if he even has one and tries to be as neutral as possible. There really is a large difference between extremely professional, high-level commentary, and "entertaining"(imo childish), cookie cutter youtube-commentary a'la Moletrap or Cholera or ... Husky and HD. | ||
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
On August 28 2010 22:13 Vei wrote: ROFL Day9 needs to cast more like this this is fucking gold. PG-rated day9 << R rated, as with anything :v that's my favorite starcraft series of all time... i kind of miss combat_ex now. i hope he starts making his tutorials and stuff again for sc2. :D | ||
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Therapist..
United States57 Posts
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DarkspearTribe
568 Posts
On August 28 2010 22:19 Shikyo wrote: I strongly disagree with you, I think that Day9 is far more entertaining and says clever things all the time. Husky and HD just say the obvious things, have no insight/incorrect insight, and it's just a snorefest waiting for Day9 and JP to come back on. I can't find any humor in Husky's commentating still, it just feels like a generic SC2GG commentary to me with equal amounts of insight to the game. I learn nothing while listening to their commentary, way unlike when listening to Day9/JP. The post above me is really good. I agree with you. Just because day9 has good knowledge and all his content is analysis videos everyone tend to think he can't be entertaining. I LOVE day9 commentaries because he makes me smile, understand what the hell is going on and what the players are doing. Hopefully he will be doing commentarys alongside with dailies in the future ^^ | ||
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LeonStarcraft
United Kingdom173 Posts
i think HDH are doing fine and it actualy adds to the entertainment with their style. I think Day9 is fantastic as he really knows his stuff, but he's watching it from a perspective of a player (which is great mind) but not so much as a caster in its true sense. Not complaining, just stating the difference in styles, i however think all 4 are great and doing a good job. Some of you guys on here really need to lighten up. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 28 2010 22:36 LeonStarcraft wrote: You guys need to think what is a caster for? He is there to supplement the video we see with audio commentary, confirm what we see, describe it, and offer a little analysis. This is a tournament, not a tutorial. i think HDH are doing fine and it actualy adds to the entertainment with their style. I think Day9 is fantastic as he really knows his stuff, but he's watching it from a perspective of a player (which is great mind) but not so much as a caster in its true sense. Not complaining, just stating the difference in styles, i however think all 4 are great and doing a good job. Some of you guys on here really need to lighten up. How does HDH do that well when they miss a lot of the action and don't know what's going on? Like in one game I watched a Terran was going for early Marauders and HD said something like "Oh Terran is going mech, that's really unusual vs Protoss" like wtf? That makes no sense. Have you ever watched an Ice Hockey / Soccer game with a commentator who has no clue about the game? I have, and it's very, very awful. Everyone wants a commentator who knows about the game. I still can't see any entertainment in HDH's casting. Making mistakes and terrible jokes to try to hide them isn't entertaining in my opinion. Showing you have amazing knowledge about the game while saying clever but subtle things is. In general I don't laugh at just stupid, straight-forward humor and prefer more subtle things anyway, so maybe I just am not being objective enough? I have never liked Husky's commentary even from way back when he was popular among TL with the SC2GG hate(I think he's not even as good as most of them...), I've always thought that he's not funny and he still doesn't know much about the game at all. And HD's not even at the same level so... it's just extremely lackluster. There were many times where I just facepalmed in embarrassment. We can't have people ruining the credibility of SC2 like this with just a huge lack of knowledge. | ||
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HighDistortion
United States52 Posts
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
On August 28 2010 22:49 HighDistortion wrote: I dont think Husky being only a gold level player, or whatever some of u think he is, should factor in the discussion of whether hes good or not at broadcasting. Many NFL broadcasters have never been in the NFL, many NBA broadcasters have never been in the NBA, etc. according to some, D/D+ is diamond... so what is gold ? O_o | ||
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Snowfield
1289 Posts
On August 28 2010 22:49 HighDistortion wrote: I dont think Husky being only a gold level player, or whatever some of u think he is, should factor in the discussion of whether hes good or not at broadcasting. Many NFL broadcasters have never been in the NFL, many NBA broadcasters have never been in the NBA, etc. But they know the game, Husky/HD Doesn't really know the game | ||
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Yawne
Germany195 Posts
On August 28 2010 22:32 Therapist.. wrote: The problem with HD and Husky is their understanding of the game, that's it. They both need to step back and spend a lot of time and practicing on the ladder. Good commentators like Day9, JP, Raelcun, TheGunRun, Tasteless, Artosis, etc... are all mid-high diamond level players. You need to be a decent player in order to commentate games otherwise people will make threads like this complaining about you. I agree with you that HD and Husky still lack game sence. But i don´t think they should step back from casting. If they find some time it might be a good idea to play and get a better sense of whats going on. But being a good player doesn`t grant you good casting skills. Id rather see them do more commentary, listen to thier own casts, read threads like this, talk to players/other casters and try to improve thier casting that way. I dont think a good caster does have to be a top player. Most sport commentators never payed the sport at a decent level. Most of them even have a better grab on whats going on then some players. With enough dedication (which HD, Husky and JP seem to have) and experience (will come over time) they will all reach the level Day,Chill,Tasteless,Artosis are now. Just give them some time and constructive feedback. Once those casters are at about the same level, you can still choose your favorite caster based on style voice jokes or whatever. Keep up the good work! | ||
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MercurialGaming
United Kingdom13 Posts
On August 28 2010 22:51 Snowfield wrote: But they know the game, Husky/HD Doesn't really know the game Nobody knows the game; it's only been out for a month (excluding beta). Just saying they're bad doesn't help anyone and only makes you sound like a dick. I prefer Day9 but that's just my opinion I don't go around bashing every commentator for not being like Day9. Everybody has their own styles and it just so happens that HDH's style is alot more "newbie" friendly. | ||
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hellsan631
United States695 Posts
On August 28 2010 22:50 Keitzer wrote: according to some, D/D+ is diamond... so what is gold ? O_o gold mean you dont play on iccup basically, perhaps playing on some of the blizzard ladders. | ||
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rockon1215
United States612 Posts
Some prefer the Husky, HD, Day 9, or JP. It's a PREFERENCE. I don't think JP is quite enthusiastic enough for MY TASTES. I think day9 does a little too much analysis in his shoutcasting when I THINK he should just be building the excitement. I don't really watch too much Husky or HD to say too much about them | ||
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LeonStarcraft
United Kingdom173 Posts
On August 28 2010 22:56 MercurialGaming wrote: Nobody knows the game; it's only been out for a month (excluding beta). Just saying they're bad doesn't help anyone and only makes you sound like a dick. I prefer Day9 but that's just my opinion I don't go around bashing every commentator for not being like Day9. Everybody has their own styles and it just so happens that HDH's style is alot more "newbie" friendly. This. Exactly what i was trying to say. Although you worded it better. 2 different styles, that's why it is a great mix that MLG have found, it caters for everyone - the top end players who watch and also the casual/newer players who like to have a view. I personaly find it refreshing as if you had the same type of casting for every game it would get stale real quick. | ||
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dontax
Belgium20 Posts
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
On August 28 2010 14:36 Zurles wrote: Although I tend to agree, a giant hate thread is probably taking it a bit too far. Just let it play out; constructive criticism is one thing but trying to convince everyone that your favorite caster is the best and that these other two casters suck just comes across as mean. | ||
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Sully907
United States97 Posts
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kidijs
Latvia40 Posts
But I'm sure he'll work it out in the future tournaments.  | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
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