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A Comprehensive look at IdrA
First, to all ye nay-sayers: Before reading the biblical tale of the demi-god IdrA, leave your envious lies at the door like you did your social lives and self-respect.
As Athena burst from Zeus’s cranium, in similar fashion, IdrA sprouted forth from the Olympian Father’s nerdiest nipple. With said divine inheritance, IdrA has ruled uncontested as SC2 demi-god for all eternity/the past few months.
Many plebeians try to bring down perfection itself by harping on my lord’s repetitive game play or declarations of imbalance, but let me assure you, IdrA is only following the necessary path to becoming a true Hero. I talk not of Starcraft heroes like Jaedong or Flash. I talk of Heroes of Justice, Liberty, and Destroyers of Evil.
We need only look at the historical records. Where will we find the most appropriate comparison to IdrA? Boxer… no. Nada… no. Kwanro… HELL NO! I say let us compare IdrA to the types of heroes who have almost reached IdrA-like proportions: Winston Churchill, Davy Crockett, and Mohandas Gandhi.
While comparing these men to IdrA is an insult to the great Zerg emperor, I feel like these three men are the closest mortal specimens.
When Winston Churchill declared that England would fight Nazi Germany even if the battles raged on the streets of London itself, I almost got as many chills as when IdrA refused to switch races as Blizzard armed Terran with V2 rockets and Panzer tanks. (Yes I just compared Terran to Nazi Germany…).
Every time IdrA refuses to “gg,” I envision Davy Crockett, out of ammunition and completely surrounded at the Alamo, telling 6,000 Mexican soldiers to “go to hell” before the bullets ripped his body apart.
And when people complain that IdrA boringly sits back, never attacks, and passively waits until he can overpower his opponent with sheer strength of will – NO ONE realizes it is because IdrA is a pacifist. He is using “non-cooperation” without attacking in the hopes that his opponent will see that they are in fact in the wrong and just “gg” before the final confrontation (or just cheese him, but who would cheese Gandhi?).
Now, people will spout horrendous lies like IdrA is bad mannered, or IdrA complains, or IdrA is sickly looking and needs to tan. IdrA is bad mannered? WINSTON CHURCHILL is bad mannered. A lady at a party once asked him if he was drunk, to which Prime Minister Churchill replied, “I may be drunk madam, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly!” So heroes can be bad mannered… check.
But, IdrA complains about Terran being OP… Again, Churchill wouldn’t shut up about how OP the Nazi were, so America agreed to focus on the war with Germany BEFORE fully going to war with Japan (even though we joined in because of Pearl Harbor). Churchill wouldn’t shut up about DT u-boats or Panzer siege tanks being OP! Also, you think Davy liked being out numbered 30 to 1 at the Alamo? I bet he was pissed at how OP the Mexicans were. So heroes can be complainers… check.
IdrA looks sickly? Take a look at the rib cage of Gandhi. You could see all his vital organs in action, the poor man was so sickly. Besides, IdrA is a wrist massage and a trip to the beach away from being a tan, sexy beast! So heroes can be sickly (I mean look at bubble boy)… check!
All the opposition’s criticisms have now been disproven, nullified, or avoided. Therefore, IdrA is awesome. Enjoy watching him play as I do.
Am I a troll? No. IdrA is awesome. I mean every word.
I see that you write "IdrA is awesome" and stuff, but making threads just about IdrA as a person is kinda rude and silly I think. Leave the man alone. Imagine if people were making threads about you all the time, I think you would be kinda sick of it after a while.
On August 25 2010 09:41 Kare wrote: I see that you write "IdrA is awesome" and stuff, but making threads just about IdrA as a person is kinda rude and silly I think. Leave the man alone. Imagine if people were making threads about you all the time, I think you would be kinda sick of it after a while.
Actually I think this can be considered an act of support and fanboyism. IdrA thanked his supporters over and over again.
Did anyone see Idra gg in that game vs Morrow yesterdayish? I laughed so hard because someone in the comments said Idra had to gg because he was given penalty points (whatever that means) by the tournament judges for being bm.
I thought this was cute. IdrA is indeed awesome, in the way that Kerrigan is awesome: Just as Terran and Protoss forces alike despise the actions of the Queen of Blades, it's hard not to hate IdrA's incessant BM. But again, Kerrigan's genocidal rampages can only be described as "badass", so too would one classify IdrA's crusade against Carrier-massers and Siege Tank-whores as worthy endeavors.
Did anyone see Idra gg in that game vs Morrow yesterdayish? I laughed so hard because someone in the comments said Idra had to gg because he was given penalty points (whatever that means) by the tournament judges for being bm.
this reminds me of the TL Poster Meme, "Idra kills your family... WHAT A CHARACTER" lulz, but for the sake of the site (along with mod requests) i won't repost it here :D
anyways, awesome post, it was a nice laugh amidst all the rage
Other than that, you put forth a nice effort but not much beyond. Comparing a gamer to an Asian, European and US hero feels like you're stretching a bit.
I love idra, and people need to understand that idra makes a LIVING by playing SC2 and a game that many pro's would call imbalance or at least not figured out for the time being.
Will seriously hurt is income, but he has tone down the rage at events so .
On August 25 2010 09:36 Beef Noodles wrote: I say let us compare IdrA to the types of heroes who have almost reached IdrA-like proportions: Winston Churchill, Davy Crockett, and Mohandas Gandhi.
These people almost reached IdrA like proportions? LOL.
On August 25 2010 09:36 Beef Noodles wrote: I say let us compare IdrA to the types of heroes who have almost reached IdrA-like proportions: Winston Churchill, Davy Crockett, and Mohandas Gandhi.
These people almost reached IdrA like proportions? LOL.
Have any of those people won the KOTB? Nope. Therefore: almost.
On August 25 2010 09:36 Beef Noodles wrote: I say let us compare IdrA to the types of heroes who have almost reached IdrA-like proportions: Winston Churchill, Davy Crockett, and Mohandas Gandhi.
These people almost reached IdrA like proportions? LOL.
Have any of those people won the KOTB? Nope. Therefore: almost.
Well I just like him so much because his approach is the right one imo. He is finding strats that will stand the test of time and are strong regardless of scouting what he is doing. Where as many people are always looking for some "gimmick" their opponent won't be expecting. Soon, the gimmicks will all be found and usually useless, where as IdrA's play will just become more refined and stronger.
Wow, I've never seen this amount of butt kissing.. He is a normal person, whom is good at a game. Heck he's even a human whom likes to call out people when they make mistakes (because he obviously never makes them himself). And he pretty much never admit someone is better than himself.
I don't know if this is a satire criticizing Idra, or an overly silly appraisal of him, but... who cares? If the man ever sees it himself, hopefully he'll enjoy it
Haha, made me chuckle a couple of times. I pity those who frown upon this article. Just remember to take this article with a handful of salt, a spattering of pepper, and a dash of lemon.
Idra is amazing and I like his solid gameplay very much. Watching him play is like watching someone who mastered his shit, but I think he lacks, and lacks A LOT, of charisma. This is the main reason I like Dimaga so much
Every time IdrA refuses to “gg,” I envision Davy Crockett, out of ammunition and completely surrounded at the Alamo, telling 6,000 Mexican soldiers to “go to hell” before the bullets ripped his body apart.
Lol you know what, I'm starting to agree with this anger-issues brat.
Been playing exclusively Z last few days to try and grasp his constant whining and on some level I can now safely say that Terrans are indeed imbalanced.
Not by a huge margin but especially in the late game. Doesn't matter what a zerg uses, a terran can just a-move and steamroll whatever army you have (spellcasters or not, I tried!).
On August 25 2010 11:04 dambros wrote: Idra is amazing and I like his solid gameplay very much. Watching him play is like watching someone who mastered his shit, but I think he lacks, and lacks A LOT, of charisma. This is the main reason I like Dimaga so much
One thing I respect about Idra is that despite all his bullshit, whining, and BM, he's never cheated. I can't say the same for Dimaga. Maybe I'm just being a downer but I feel like a lot of new SC2 fans don't know their recent history. I know I would want to know if I were a fan (I used to love F91 but have not supported him since his cheating).
On August 25 2010 09:41 Kare wrote: I see that you write "IdrA is awesome" and stuff, but making threads just about IdrA as a person is kinda rude and silly I think. Leave the man alone. Imagine if people were making threads about you all the time, I think you would be kinda sick of it after a while.
lol, uhmm yea idra is the man, however this amount of hero worship borders on distasteful. Are you hoping Idra will read this and make you his protege? I mean do you truly believe idra is a greater person than Churchill? This reminds me of Stan by eminem lol.
For the record: 1) IdrA is a sexy tiger. I only put the "sickly" part in there because some people like to say incorrect things and I was trying to re-inform them.
On August 25 2010 09:43 Beef Noodles wrote: Ehh I agree with you, but I hope he isn't wasting his time reading my posts haha.
dont make a post about someone else unless it is warranted. Especially do not make a post about someone else when you are of the mindset that "i hope we woulnt waste his time to read it." Why should I read it... I didnt after the first line.
On August 25 2010 10:00 sk` wrote: BM is perfectly fine... why people bitch about it is beyond me. BM is all over the place in professional athletics, why frown on it in esports?
No, I'm pretty sure people frown on it in real sports, i.e Chad Ochocinco's antics, Terrell Owens and his antics, Gilbert Arenas and his gun in the locker room, all the various brawls (St Louis Cardinals and the Reds and Johnny Ceuto lately), Ben Roethlisberger and the girl at the bar, all the NFL guys who have injured people drunk driving, Lebron James and his decision to go to the Miami Heat. Baseball steroids, Serena Williams and her outburst against the line judge at the US Open.
While I am indeed in awe of Idra's very high skill level, it's a little much to proclaim him the Winston Churchill of SC2. It's a bit early for that, and it's not like he's winning every tournament ever.
Werent the people at the alamo fighting for slavery and the mexicans were the freedom fighters? I don't know how history twisted it to make them look like heroes,
Just want to point out that IdrA was pretty much the best mannered player at IEM (next to maybe the gentle Morrow). No obnoxious cheering, shouting for wins, or sulking over losses (I'm okay with players who do make their emotions known though) respectfully gg'd every loss, and kept the calmest demeanor of anyone there.
IdrA, you are awesome, and your dedication and hard work really do show through your games and your actions. IdrA fighting~!
On August 25 2010 10:00 sk` wrote: BM is perfectly fine... why people bitch about it is beyond me. BM is all over the place in professional athletics, why frown on it in esports?
No, I'm pretty sure people frown on it in real sports, i.e Chad Ochocinco's antics, Terrell Owens and his antics, Gilbert Arenas and his gun in the locker room, all the various brawls (St Louis Cardinals and the Reds and Johnny Ceuto lately), Ben Roethlisberger and the girl at the bar, all the NFL guys who have injured people drunk driving, Lebron James and his decision to go to the Miami Heat. Baseball steroids, Serena Williams and her outburst against the line judge at the US Open.
I'm sure there are more.
Lebron James moving to Miami is totally not BM.
Would you rather be rich in Cleveland, or in Miami. I'd pick Miami anyday, hot babes, hot weather, and hot beaches.
Hes going to make a legacy with Wade and Bosh, and I can't wait to see what they pull off.
On a funny note I just woke up from my nap. Weirdest dream ever. Idra was playing at home. A protoss player (I'm feeling it was Nony for some reason but i'm not exactly sure) sent a DT (I was the DT in the dream) to go to his house and sabotage his base (or home in this case). I get there and there was only one Hydra. The thing gets slaughtered and I end up shutting off his computer power. (No offense is meant to Idra at all, it was just a dream, the guy irl is awesome) But he gets mad and begins to run away and go into a rage outside his house for losing to this 'cheesy' play. Anyways I blink out of there into safety.
Ok I think its time to take a break from starcraft haha...
Comparing any SC or SC2 player to Winston Churchill or Ghandi should hardly be taken seriously. It's a game I love, but at the end of the day, it's a game. Perhaps as far as a competitive game or even a sport. They didn't uplift an entire group of people in hard times to fight against a seemingly unstoppable oppressive power purely with their ability to speak, or spark a massive civil rights movement for an entire country, peacefully.
Nor does the comparison mean anything. I once ate a sandwich. You know who else ate a sandwich? John F. Kennedy. That's right. Perhaps I should go land a man on the moon. But I think Germans eat sandwiches too. Which means I'm also on equal terms with Hitler. Oh dear.
On August 25 2010 10:00 sk` wrote: BM is perfectly fine... why people bitch about it is beyond me. BM is all over the place in professional athletics, why frown on it in esports?
No, I'm pretty sure people frown on it in real sports, i.e Chad Ochocinco's antics, Terrell Owens and his antics, Gilbert Arenas and his gun in the locker room, all the various brawls (St Louis Cardinals and the Reds and Johnny Ceuto lately), Ben Roethlisberger and the girl at the bar, all the NFL guys who have injured people drunk driving, Lebron James and his decision to go to the Miami Heat. Baseball steroids, Serena Williams and her outburst against the line judge at the US Open.
I'm sure there are more.
Lebron James moving to Miami is totally not BM.
Would you rather be rich in Cleveland, or in Miami. I'd pick Miami anyday, hot babes, hot weather, and hot beaches.
Hes going to make a legacy with Wade and Bosh, and I can't wait to see what they pull off.
I think I could have worded that better, I think the manner in which he made his whole grand decision was a bit BM. I think the classy thing to do was at least to let Cleveland know that he was not going back then decide where to go. I don't think it was right to keep an entire city and all of the Cav fans and the Cav team waiting. It's like being dumped in public in front of everyone, or handling the dumping in private.
Idra is by far my favorite player in Starcraft 2. I'm not trolling or joking as I say this, I highly respect the fact that he speaks his mind and says things like they are, not worrying about what people might think of him. When someone does something gay like a cheese he will say straight out "your gay" or something along those lines. When someone wins because they are using an overpowered race he will say "You should be glad your race allows you to win games you wouldn't normally be able to". Idra is one of the few folks virtuous enough to speak the truth and not lie about his opinions just to make himself look better or to make his opponent feel better.
Some people may call him bad manner but I call him good manner for following the virtue of honesty.
IdrA is one of the best players in the world, all you kids hating on him over that one game he didnt say GG are trippin. Sick of all these trolls and bads talking about stuff, when they don't even know whats up.
wow lol, what a good post, ty for teh lulz OP. i thought i was crazy when the first things i think of when i hear IdrA is winston churchill, ghandi, and davy crocket, glad im not the only one.
the only issue i have with idra is his OP talk about terran during ladder matches on replays that people see (like against silver and drewbie). the problem with this is, he doesn't specify or clarify what exactly he thinks could be tweaked or changed to balance terran out.
the result is a bunch of forum dwellers who rant about how overpowered terran is. this transcends into the game, which is where it bothers me. i play terran, i play them b/c i want to, and i really don't need to justify why. if you're better than me, you're going to beat me. i beat a protoss player with a bioball w/ ghosts against his high templar/gateway mix. when he finally lost, he claimed "terran bio is so imba" and left.
seriously? it's pretty clear that idra thinks that mech is imbalanced, and specifically against zerg. yet, because of his outspoken stance on these replays, the vast majority of idiots playing, and who watch idra replays think that anything terran does is imba, and it's just gotten stupid.
On August 25 2010 09:51 Aeres wrote: I thought this was cute. IdrA is indeed awesome, in the way that Kerrigan is awesome: Just as Terran and Protoss forces alike despise the actions of the Queen of Blades, it's hard not to hate IdrA's incessant BM. But again, Kerrigan's genocidal rampages can only be described as "badass", so too would one classify IdrA's crusade against Carrier-massers and Siege Tank-whores as worthy endeavors.
Hats off to you, IdrA.
thats not at all the same thing seeing as Hitler pretty much did what kerrigan was doing. so nope.
This is what I think of you after reading this post.... + Show Spoiler +
A Comprehensive look at Beef Noodles
First, to all ye nay-sayers: Before reading the biblical tale of the demi-god Beef Noodles, leave your envious lies at the door like you did your social lives and self-respect.
As Athena burst from Zeus’s cranium, in similar fashion, Beef Noodles sprouted forth from the Olympian Father’s nerdiest nipple. With said divine inheritance, Beef Noodles has ruled uncontested as SC2 demi-god for all eternity/the past few months.
Many plebeians try to bring down perfection itself by harping on my lord’s repetitive game play or declarations of imbalance, but let me assure you, Beef Noodles is only following the necessary path to becoming a true Hero. I talk not of Starcraft heroes like Jaedong or Flash. I talk of Heroes of Justice, Liberty, and Destroyers of Evil.
We need only look at the historical records. Where will we find the most appropriate comparison to Beef Noodles? Boxer… no. Nada… no. Kwanro… HELL NO! I say let us compare Beef Noodles to the types of heroes who have almost reached Beef Noodles-like proportions: Winston Churchill, Davy Crockett, and Mohandas Gandhi.
While comparing these men to Beef Noodles is an insult to the great Zerg emperor, I feel like these three men are the closest mortal specimens.
When Winston Churchill declared that England would fight Nazi Germany even if the battles raged on the streets of London itself, I almost got as many chills as when Beef Noodles refused to switch races as Blizzard armed Terran with V2 rockets and Panzer tanks. (Yes I just compared Terran to Nazi Germany…).
Every time Beef Noodles refuses to “gg,” I envision Davy Crockett, out of ammunition and completely surrounded at the Alamo, telling 6,000 Mexican soldiers to “go to hell” before the bullets ripped his body apart.
And when people complain that Beef Noodles boringly sits back, never attacks, and passively waits until he can overpower his opponent with sheer strength of will – NO ONE realizes it is because Beef Noodles is a pacifist. He is using “non-cooperation” without attacking in the hopes that his opponent will see that they are in fact in the wrong and just “gg” before the final confrontation (or just cheese him, but who would cheese Gandhi?).
Now, people will spout horrendous lies like Beef Noodles is bad mannered, or Beef Noodles complains, or Beef Noodles is sickly looking and needs to tan. Beef Noodles is bad mannered? WINSTON CHURCHILL is bad mannered. A lady at a party once asked him if he was drunk, to which Prime Minister Churchill replied, “I may be drunk madam, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly!” So heroes can be bad mannered… check.
But, Beef Noodles complains about Terran being OP… Again, Churchill wouldn’t shut up about how OP the Nazi were, so America agreed to focus on the war with Germany BEFORE fully going to war with Japan (even though we joined in because of Pearl Harbor). Churchill wouldn’t shut up about DT u-boats or Panzer siege tanks being OP! Also, you think Davy liked being out numbered 30 to 1 at the Alamo? I bet he was pissed at how OP the Mexicans were. So heroes can be complainers… check.
Beef Noodles looks sickly? Take a look at the rib cage of Gandhi. You could see all his vital organs in action, the poor man was so sickly. Besides, Beef Noodles is a wrist massage and a trip to the beach away from being a tan, sexy beast! So heroes can be sickly (I mean look at bubble boy)… check!
All the opposition’s criticisms have now been disproven, nullified, or avoided. Therefore, Beef Noodles is awesome. Enjoy watching him play as I do.
Am I a troll? No. Beef Noodles is awesome. I mean every word.
On a funny note I just woke up from my nap. Weirdest dream ever. Idra was playing at home. A protoss player (I'm feeling it was Nony for some reason but i'm not exactly sure) sent a DT (I was the DT in the dream) to go to his house and sabotage his base (or home in this case). I get there and there was only one Hydra. The thing gets slaughtered and I end up shutting off his computer power. (No offense is meant to Idra at all, it was just a dream, the guy irl is awesome) But he gets mad and begins to run away and go into a rage outside his house for losing to this 'cheesy' play. Anyways I blink out of there into safety.
Ok I think its time to take a break from starcraft haha...
alright I know idra is popular and all but really... has it gotten to the point where people start to DREAM about him?
too much sc/sc community for you dude.
Im sure not every twilight fangurl dreams about twilight nor does every bieber fan dream about him either.
hahaha this was great! I myself <3 idra! people bitch about BM, look at boxing man! mike Tyson tells his opponents that he is gonna eat their children! AND I LOVE IT!!!! give me more! i want entertainment! I want drama. spice this dish up with some idra BM sprinkles! mmmmmmm yummy. Basically, Idra is my sc2 hero cause he is so much more alive than the others :D
On August 25 2010 15:15 trueg0x wrote: hahaha this was great! I myself <3 idra! people bitch about BM, look at boxing man! mike Tyson tells his opponents that he is gonna eat their children ear ! AND I LOVE IT!!!! give me more! i want entertainment! I want drama. spice this dish up with some idra BM sprinkles! mmmmmmm yummy. Basically, Idra is my sc2 hero cause he is so much more alive than the others :D
yeap pretty sure that was just pre-game trash talking ...
On August 25 2010 14:14 kirkybaby wrote: the problem with this is, he doesn't specify or clarify what exactly he thinks could be tweaked or changed to balance terran out.
Actually your wrong. Hes said before that the only nerf terran actually needs is overkill on tanks. Thats it, although I imagine with the recent unbeatable reaper build against Zerg he would probably want reapers nerfed as well. Idra is not some whining kid, the nerf he asks for is extremely reasonable and is alot less than what the random forum spammers ask for. However, i do agree with Morrow that there is more problem in the matchup than just tanks, that the entire matchup itself seems to be broken due to the amount of choices terran has and zerg basically has no choices.
While Idra is a good player, I don't understand the constant bandwagon that people keep jumping on to cheer for such a poor mannered player with no class. Why do people idolize someone who would be the first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection. If someone did that to my face in person, I'd probably resort to violence. Maybe he is this so called "demi-god" in Starcraft but he's almost less than human in person due to his poor etiquette.
Its an honest question. Why do people respect someone who gives no respect to others. No respect to the people who make this community possible (tournament organizers) and no respect to the players that make up the competition that he excels at.
lol, coincedence that I daydreamed the other day and imagined that Terrans were like Nazi's. Zerg was like UK, and the toss would come into the picture later and roflstomp everybody like the americans (and canadians)
On a funny note I just woke up from my nap. Weirdest dream ever. Idra was playing at home. A protoss player (I'm feeling it was Nony for some reason but i'm not exactly sure) sent a DT (I was the DT in the dream) to go to his house and sabotage his base (or home in this case). I get there and there was only one Hydra. The thing gets slaughtered and I end up shutting off his computer power. (No offense is meant to Idra at all, it was just a dream, the guy irl is awesome) But he gets mad and begins to run away and go into a rage outside his house for losing to this 'cheesy' play. Anyways I blink out of there into safety.
Ok I think its time to take a break from starcraft haha...
alright I know idra is popular and all but really... has it gotten to the point where people start to DREAM about him?
too much sc/sc community for you dude.
Im sure not every twilight fangurl dreams about twilight nor does every bieber fan dream about him either.
but gamer to dream about idra !!? =0
Haha, believe it or not, just a couple of days ago I had a dream about IdrA too. I'm not surprised though, it was during the Gamescom tournament after all. So in this dream I remember I was sitting in a bar talking to the bartender, not sure what I was talking about, but she was mixing some drinks. She then pulls out two glasses and starts pouring this clear drink, supposedly a mango flavored one. She holds up on of the glasses and starts looking over my shoulder and starts singing "Happy Birthday to You", so I turn around and there I see IdrA sitting all alone. I take my drink and I bring over his to his table, and I notice he's looking really grumpy. So he takes a zip of his drink, he smiles and says, "that was actually pretty good!". That's it, that's all I remember. Haha.
hmm, you missed the reason why IdrA plays zerg. why would a hero to humans (terrans in SC2) want to play one of thier enemys. i think i know why. its too steal all of the zerg tech points so its easyer for newbs to play the campain, yes all those tech point thinges were individually placed by idra so to be easy to find
On August 25 2010 19:10 Snowfield wrote: Anyone played the idra simulator currently on EU servers? (not sure if it's on US) it's hilarious
What?!? What does it do?
It's a 1v1 TvZ vs a very hard computer on (lol) Kulas Ravine, the objective of the game is to beat idra without making him ragequit, idra starts with 3 bases.
Idra will ragequit at any sight of a reaper, massing of one units, banshees and pretty much everything.
idra will also type out famous insults and rants.
when idra ragequits, the game says "idra is victorious"
On August 25 2010 19:10 Snowfield wrote: Anyone played the idra simulator currently on EU servers? (not sure if it's on US) it's hilarious
What?!? What does it do?
It's a 1v1 TvZ vs a very hard computer on (lol) Kulas Ravine, the objective of the game is to beat idra without making him ragequit, idra starts with 3 bases.
Idra will ragequit at any sight of a reaper, massing of one units, banshees and pretty much everything.
idra will also type out famous insults and rants.
when idra ragequits, the game says "idra is victorious"
So, just search for it in the custom games
i haven't beaten him yet
God, that sounds awesome. Too bad it's TvZ... I would like to build Carriers!
On August 25 2010 14:14 kirkybaby wrote: the only issue i have with idra is his OP talk about terran during ladder matches on replays that people see (like against silver and drewbie). the problem with this is, he doesn't specify or clarify what exactly he thinks could be tweaked or changed to balance terran out.
Well, he's not gonna write an essay ingame, but for what it's worth he explained his problems with the matchup fairly well on these very forums. You can search for it I guess.
Very good write Although I'm afraid this thread will turn into a flamewar between Idra fanboys/haters or even better a flamewar on whether terran is op or not
On August 25 2010 14:14 kirkybaby wrote: the only issue i have with idra is his OP talk about terran during ladder matches on replays that people see (like against silver and drewbie). the problem with this is, he doesn't specify or clarify what exactly he thinks could be tweaked or changed to balance terran out.
Well, he's not gonna write an essay ingame, but for what it's worth he explained his problems with the matchup fairly well on these very forums. You can search for it I guess.
Yeah it's not even just IdrA anymore either. I was watching Psyonic's stream yesterday and Inka said 'I don't know how a Terran ever loses' before quitting. Waiting on balance tweaks
I don't get this post? I thought this post was going to be A Comprehensive look at IdrA not some fictional dribble that proves Godwins law within the first half of the starting post. I like IdrA but I don't like this post.
Props to you op. People who are whining should go take a look at the history of tl before blatantly assuming that we are fanboys of idra mainly cause of sc2
On August 25 2010 18:08 rS.Sinatra wrote: While Idra is a good player, I don't understand the constant bandwagon that people keep jumping on to cheer for such a poor mannered player with no class. Why do people idolize someone who would be the first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection. If someone did that to my face in person, I'd probably resort to violence. Maybe he is this so called "demi-god" in Starcraft but he's almost less than human in person due to his poor etiquette.
Its an honest question. Why do people respect someone who gives no respect to others. No respect to the people who make this community possible (tournament organizers) and no respect to the players that make up the competition that he excels at.
But, IdrA complains about Terran being OP… Again, Churchill wouldn’t shut up about how OP the Nazi were, so America agreed to focus on the war with Germany BEFORE fully going to war with Japan (even though we joined in because of Pearl Harbor). Churchill wouldn’t shut up about DT u-boats or Panzer siege tanks being OP! Also, you think Davy liked being out numbered 30 to 1 at the Alamo? I bet he was pissed at how OP the Mexicans were. So heroes can be complainers… check.
That could very very well be the nerdiest thing I have read in my whole life...
On August 25 2010 18:08 rS.Sinatra wrote: While Idra is a good player, I don't understand the constant bandwagon that people keep jumping on to cheer for such a poor mannered player with no class. Why do people idolize someone who would be the first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection. If someone did that to my face in person, I'd probably resort to violence. Maybe he is this so called "demi-god" in Starcraft but he's almost less than human in person due to his poor etiquette.
Its an honest question. Why do people respect someone who gives no respect to others. No respect to the people who make this community possible (tournament organizers) and no respect to the players that make up the competition that he excels at.
I like idra because he doesn't bend or heed to your delicate sensibilities of manners. Get over this "etiquette" nonsense. Shit talk is part of ANY game. If you can't handle it, or cry about seeing it, go play another game. We all play a game. Idra is really good at this game. His gameplay does the talking, everything past that is trivial - except to people like you who love to make a mountain out of a molehill.
Sinatra, he's entertaining and makes for hilarious encounters -- entertaining like spectator eSports should be. You shouldn't be taking his BM seriously, anyway.
Bah, IdrA is just another spoiled Prima Donna with lousy social skills.. Sure, he's talented, but so were Genghis Khan and Ted Bundy. Wouldn't want them over for dinner, either.
On August 25 2010 19:10 Snowfield wrote: Anyone played the idra simulator currently on EU servers? (not sure if it's on US) it's hilarious
What?!? What does it do?
It's a 1v1 TvZ vs a very hard computer on (lol) Kulas Ravine, the objective of the game is to beat idra without making him ragequit, idra starts with 3 bases.
Idra will ragequit at any sight of a reaper, massing of one units, banshees and pretty much everything.
idra will also type out famous insults and rants.
when idra ragequits, the game says "idra is victorious"
So, just search for it in the custom games
i haven't beaten him yet
Simply hilarious. I must try this out when I have the time .
And I'm surprised at all the haters towards the OP, especially when it can be taken seen both as praise and satire of the player. But I guess IdrA is just a very polarizing figure (though personally I feel pretty neutral about his "metagame interactions").
On August 25 2010 18:08 rS.Sinatra wrote: While Idra is a good player, I don't understand the constant bandwagon that people keep jumping on to cheer for such a poor mannered player with no class. Why do people idolize someone who would be the first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection. If someone did that to my face in person, I'd probably resort to violence. Maybe he is this so called "demi-god" in Starcraft but he's almost less than human in person due to his poor etiquette.
Its an honest question. Why do people respect someone who gives no respect to others. No respect to the people who make this community possible (tournament organizers) and no respect to the players that make up the competition that he excels at.
I like idra because he doesn't bend or heed to your delicate sensibilities of manners. Get over this "etiquette" nonsense. Shit talk is part of ANY game. If you can't handle it, or cry about seeing it, go play another game. We all play a game. Idra is really good at this game. His gameplay does the talking, everything past that is trivial - except to people like you who love to make a mountain out of a molehill.
This is ironic. I just state my opinion about a player, which is actually no big deal and my opinions about how people should treat other people, also no big deal. However, by quoting me and then trying to somehow justify IdrA's childish behavior (comon' ... the guy is a friggen adult, act like one) you are the person that is making my opinion of IdrA (a molehill) into a mountain (a quest to somehow make the entire community be polite and curtious?)
I'm allowed to say my mind and opinion in a sensible manner, kthx.
If I were to start talking on these forums like idra does to other people, I might find a fast ban ticket. Its almost a double standard. Why is his behavior acceptable? Just because its consistent? Just because he's been here longer? Why?
On August 25 2010 18:08 rS.Sinatra wrote: While Idra is a good player, I don't understand the constant bandwagon that people keep jumping on to cheer for such a poor mannered player with no class. Why do people idolize someone who would be the first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection. If someone did that to my face in person, I'd probably resort to violence. Maybe he is this so called "demi-god" in Starcraft but he's almost less than human in person due to his poor etiquette.
Its an honest question. Why do people respect someone who gives no respect to others. No respect to the people who make this community possible (tournament organizers) and no respect to the players that make up the competition that he excels at.
I like idra because he doesn't bend or heed to your delicate sensibilities of manners. Get over this "etiquette" nonsense. Shit talk is part of ANY game. If you can't handle it, or cry about seeing it, go play another game. We all play a game. Idra is really good at this game. His gameplay does the talking, everything past that is trivial - except to people like you who love to make a mountain out of a molehill.
This is ironic. I just state my opinion about a player, which is actually no big deal and my opinions about how people should treat other people, also no big deal. However, by quoting me and then trying to somehow justify IdrA's childish behavior (comon' ... the guy is a friggen adult, act like one) you are the person that is making my opinion of IdrA (a molehill) into a mountain (a quest to somehow make the entire community be polite and curtious?)
I'm allowed to say my mind and opinion in a sensible manner, kthx.
If I were to start talking on these forums like idra does to other people, I might find a fast ban ticket. Its almost a double standard. Why is his behavior acceptable? Just because its consistent? Just because he's been here longer? Why?
Because he is very good and it's part of his persona. For the record though Idra does get bans from time to time for stuff, so it isn't like he does what ever he wants. TL.net isn't a sissy foo foo forums either.
You may not like Idra, that's fine. It's actually good that you don't. TLO, WhiteRa, Lz, Qxc and all the other pro's need fans too. That way I can root against your pro and you can root against mine. It's like any pro sport, the best of the best are going to have thier shit talkers. It's part of what makes them great.
TL is like a forum full of Idra fans .. even before SC2 .. haters here are either jealous or newbies
I didn't like Idra at first, the BM was off-putting. The more I saw him play though the more I respected his game. It seems to me that a lot of top players rely on high APM, build orders and timings and that their overall capacity for strategy isn't that high. However there are some that are very good at strategy and Idra is one of them in my opinion.
On August 25 2010 18:08 rS.Sinatra wrote: While Idra is a good player, I don't understand the constant bandwagon that people keep jumping on to cheer for such a poor mannered player with no class. Why do people idolize someone who would be the first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection. If someone did that to my face in person, I'd probably resort to violence. Maybe he is this so called "demi-god" in Starcraft but he's almost less than human in person due to his poor etiquette.
Its an honest question. Why do people respect someone who gives no respect to others. No respect to the people who make this community possible (tournament organizers) and no respect to the players that make up the competition that he excels at.
I like idra because he doesn't bend or heed to your delicate sensibilities of manners. Get over this "etiquette" nonsense. Shit talk is part of ANY game. If you can't handle it, or cry about seeing it, go play another game. We all play a game. Idra is really good at this game. His gameplay does the talking, everything past that is trivial - except to people like you who love to make a mountain out of a molehill.
This is ironic. I just state my opinion about a player, which is actually no big deal and my opinions about how people should treat other people, also no big deal. However, by quoting me and then trying to somehow justify IdrA's childish behavior (comon' ... the guy is a friggen adult, act like one) you are the person that is making my opinion of IdrA (a molehill) into a mountain (a quest to somehow make the entire community be polite and curtious?)
I'm allowed to say my mind and opinion in a sensible manner, kthx.
If I were to start talking on these forums like idra does to other people, I might find a fast ban ticket. Its almost a double standard. Why is his behavior acceptable? Just because its consistent? Just because he's been here longer? Why?
You're allowed to state your opinion, I don't have to like it and I don't have to agree with it. You can talk however you want on these forums, no one is stopping you, however people will have the right to criticize you if they don't like it. Don't throw some red herring "oh hai guyz I'm just trying to make the entire community polite and curtious..." then contradict yourself by saying he is "almost less than human". If you don't like him, don't like him. That's fine. Just realize everyone doesn't think the same way as you. Part of what makes any community a good one is diversity within members and diversity of thought.
On August 25 2010 09:41 Kare wrote: I see that you write "IdrA is awesome" and stuff, but making threads just about IdrA as a person is kinda rude and silly I think. Leave the man alone. Imagine if people were making threads about you all the time, I think you would be kinda sick of it after a while.
Yep, be he is not the only complaining every minute of every day how terran is OP against Zerg, Idra is and had this coming to him.
On August 26 2010 01:55 Elderbury wrote: Bah, IdrA is just another spoiled Prima Donna with lousy social skills.. Sure, he's talented, but so were Genghis Khan and Ted Bundy. Wouldn't want them over for dinner, either.
Hey buddy, watch your mouth, Genghis Khan was most likely your great-great-great-great-great-grandfather. Respect your elders!
On August 26 2010 13:10 Beef Noodles wrote: Name one Zerg who is better than IdrA and then I'll call them "Zerg Emperor."
Checkprime :o.
But yeah, Idras cool too.
and lol@people who act like Idra spews expletives or anything. You must really like bandwagon. The only thing he does is a)Leave with GG and occasionally b)Say you have no skills at Starcraft. Sure he isn't a graceful loser, but whatever.
So I just googled Idra since I wanted to see how he looks, considering everyone has to bring in something about his looks, and on his TL wiki page, it said he was American Terran player lol.
On August 26 2010 13:10 Beef Noodles wrote: Name one Zerg who is better than IdrA and then I'll call them "Zerg Emperor."
Checkprime :o.
But yeah, Idras cool too.
and lol@people who act like Idra spews expletives or anything. You must really like bandwagon. The only thing he does is a)Leave with GG and occasionally b)Say you have no skills at Starcraft. Sure he isn't a graceful loser, but whatever.
Pretty much this.
He always seems very friendly in interviews, and more than willing to discuss things, it's not like he has some uber elitist attitude, and refuses to give interviews or talk about the game. He speaks his mind, and doesn't sugar coat things, I like that. If he believes a certain player is not good, he tells it how he sees it, at least he is honest. As far as the GG thing is concerned, at this point thats just a part of who Idra is, if he started GG'ing every game I feel like that would take away from his personality as a pro gamer. I think he also looks a lot more normal with his short haircut, definitely an improvement.
On August 26 2010 15:28 Yagzz wrote: So I just googled Idra since I wanted to see how he looks, considering everyone has to bring in something about his looks, and on his TL wiki page, it said he was American Terran player lol.
Wow, I actually laughed really hard from this post, usally people try to be funny on this site and most of them dont pull it off. Good job and Good post
On August 25 2010 18:08 rS.Sinatra wrote: While Idra is a good player, I don't understand the constant bandwagon that people keep jumping on to cheer for such a poor mannered player with no class. Why do people idolize someone who would be the first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection. If someone did that to my face in person, I'd probably resort to violence. Maybe he is this so called "demi-god" in Starcraft but he's almost less than human in person due to his poor etiquette.
Its an honest question. Why do people respect someone who gives no respect to others. No respect to the people who make this community possible (tournament organizers) and no respect to the players that make up the competition that he excels at.
I like idra because he doesn't bend or heed to your delicate sensibilities of manners. Get over this "etiquette" nonsense. Shit talk is part of ANY game. If you can't handle it, or cry about seeing it, go play another game. We all play a game. Idra is really good at this game. His gameplay does the talking, everything past that is trivial - except to people like you who love to make a mountain out of a molehill.
This is ironic. I just state my opinion about a player, which is actually no big deal and my opinions about how people should treat other people, also no big deal. However, by quoting me and then trying to somehow justify IdrA's childish behavior (comon' ... the guy is a friggen adult, act like one) you are the person that is making my opinion of IdrA (a molehill) into a mountain (a quest to somehow make the entire community be polite and curtious?)
I'm allowed to say my mind and opinion in a sensible manner, kthx.
If I were to start talking on these forums like idra does to other people, I might find a fast ban ticket. Its almost a double standard. Why is his behavior acceptable? Just because its consistent? Just because he's been here longer? Why?
You're allowed to state your opinion, I don't have to like it and I don't have to agree with it. You can talk however you want on these forums, no one is stopping you, however people will have the right to criticize you if they don't like it. Don't throw some red herring "oh hai guyz I'm just trying to make the entire community polite and curtious..." then contradict yourself by saying he is "almost less than human". If you don't like him, don't like him. That's fine. Just realize everyone doesn't think the same way as you. Part of what makes any community a good one is diversity within members and diversity of thought.
Who threw a red herring? Maybe you should read... anyways.. if you want a community full of shit-talking babies I'd be more than happy to talk massive amounts of shit whenever I face you in ladder. Are you "top diamond?" lewl... then maybe you'll see how it feels to get shit talked etc. Nobody really appreciates it.
Its fun to watch until you're the victim of unprofessionalism at a professional level. Great example is Silver. Pretty good player that doesn't get the respect he deserves for pwning the shit out of IdrA, just b/c of the race he plays.
Reap what you sew. Go ahead and be "diverse" (somehow acting like a raging 16 year old baby is diversity) and see how far you get. All my money that you won't make it past me, let alone get to Idra's level of play. Idra has skill, but please, he needs to learn some social skills.
On August 25 2010 18:08 rS.Sinatra wrote: While Idra is a good player, I don't understand the constant bandwagon that people keep jumping on to cheer for such a poor mannered player with no class. Why do people idolize someone who would be the first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection. If someone did that to my face in person, I'd probably resort to violence. Maybe he is this so called "demi-god" in Starcraft but he's almost less than human in person due to his poor etiquette.
Its an honest question. Why do people respect someone who gives no respect to others. No respect to the people who make this community possible (tournament organizers) and no respect to the players that make up the competition that he excels at.
I like idra because he doesn't bend or heed to your delicate sensibilities of manners. Get over this "etiquette" nonsense. Shit talk is part of ANY game. If you can't handle it, or cry about seeing it, go play another game. We all play a game. Idra is really good at this game. His gameplay does the talking, everything past that is trivial - except to people like you who love to make a mountain out of a molehill.
This is ironic. I just state my opinion about a player, which is actually no big deal and my opinions about how people should treat other people, also no big deal. However, by quoting me and then trying to somehow justify IdrA's childish behavior (comon' ... the guy is a friggen adult, act like one) you are the person that is making my opinion of IdrA (a molehill) into a mountain (a quest to somehow make the entire community be polite and curtious?)
I'm allowed to say my mind and opinion in a sensible manner, kthx.
If I were to start talking on these forums like idra does to other people, I might find a fast ban ticket. Its almost a double standard. Why is his behavior acceptable? Just because its consistent? Just because he's been here longer? Why?
You're allowed to state your opinion, I don't have to like it and I don't have to agree with it. You can talk however you want on these forums, no one is stopping you, however people will have the right to criticize you if they don't like it. Don't throw some red herring "oh hai guyz I'm just trying to make the entire community polite and curtious..." then contradict yourself by saying he is "almost less than human". If you don't like him, don't like him. That's fine. Just realize everyone doesn't think the same way as you. Part of what makes any community a good one is diversity within members and diversity of thought.
Who threw a red herring? Maybe you should read... anyways.. if you want a community full of shit-talking babies I'd be more than happy to talk massive amounts of shit whenever I face you in ladder. Are you "top diamond?" lewl... then maybe you'll see how it feels to get shit talked etc. Nobody really appreciates it.
Its fun to watch until you're the victim of unprofessionalism at a professional level. Great example is Silver. Pretty good player that doesn't get the respect he deserves for pwning the shit out of IdrA, just b/c of the race he plays.
Reap what you sew. Go ahead and be "diverse" (somehow acting like a raging 16 year old baby is diversity) and see how far you get. All my money that you won't make it past me, let alone get to Idra's level of play. Idra has skill, but please, he needs to learn some social skills.
Social skills are overrated, as shown by IdrA, also Silver got the respect he deserved from the community.
To a degree, I don't mind when people lack social skills, I just think it's idiotic to fall into the trap of skill = authority. If you are good at SC2, then you are good at playing SC2. That doesn't make you any more of an authority when it comes to anything besides the game. It more than likely means you have spent a very long time playing the game.
I get a feeling that people look up to IdrA, and other players to some degree, as if they have more rights or more to say than others because they're better in the game. If IdrA, or anyone else, tell other people to fuck off, act in bad manner, etc., then it matters exactly zero what level of skill they are at. The fact that they are good in the game only grants them authority when it comes to discussing the actual game. Now, I'm not saying IdrA does that every game or that I don't think he's a great player, I'm just making a general statement about people's attitudes towards pro players.
On August 26 2010 23:54 Dystisis wrote: To a degree, I don't mind when people lack social skills, I just think it's idiotic to fall into the trap of skill = authority. If you are good at SC2, then you are good at playing SC2. That doesn't make you any more of an authority when it comes to anything besides the game. It more than likely means you have spent a very long time playing the game.
I get a feeling that people look up to IdrA, and other players to some degree, as if they have more rights or more to say than others because they're better in the game. If IdrA, or anyone else, tell other people to fuck off, act in bad manner, etc., then it matters exactly zero what level of skill they are at. The fact that they are good in the game only grants them authority when it comes to discussing the actual game. Now, I'm not saying IdrA does that every game or that I don't think he's a great player, I'm just making a general statement about people's attitudes towards pro players.
This is pretty much what I am talking about. Every time I talk about Idra's attitude, I make sure I mention his skill, however, that skill shouldn't enable him to say whatever the fuck he wants to whomever the fuck he wants.
Skill is not a license to whine. Imagine if every single pro player started whining after every single 2nd place they received in a tournament. There would be at least 1 whiner every single tournament. We are already pretty lucky we don't have to see his attitude in every tournament. We don't need moer Idras...(attitude wise).
On August 26 2010 06:44 xtfftc wrote: Sinatra, I am yet to see Idra mention anyone's mom. Source?
Is that true or are you just incredibly BM for making up shit for other players?
Literacy is an important thing xtfftc. Maybe you shouldn't put words in my mouth. I never said Idra said anything of the sort. I said he would be "The first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection". Its a figure of speech, meaning, he'd be the first person to come up with some sort of inappropriate insult, in person, after losing to some sort of cheese from you.
Then I go onto say, that I would probably punch him in the face (resort to violence), if someone made such inappropriate comments to me in person. The internet sucks and its a big place and you can't get mad for every single person that talks shit. However, there aren't that many "pro/top level" Starcraft 2 players out there and inevitably we will all run into each other in person. A little manner/respect/social skills would be nice when people eventually run into each other. What if Silver is the next Bisu and ends up in Korea? How are those two going to act in person after Idra bmed the shit out of him? I for one wouldn't even hang out with the crowd that Idra hung out with, let alone talk to him.
Could you imagine the SC1 community being as big as it was if every single person was like Idra? It wouldn't even exist. That community existed because people met other people at LANs, got together, had a great time, started producing content together, etc. People were friendly to each other.
You think you could have a beer with someone if you got beat by them in a competition? Tell you what. Next time you see Idra lose in life. Look at the way he shakes his opponent's hand and you be the judge of whether it was sincere. Hint: Its not sincere if you stand on one leg with your entire body extended just to reach the handshake.
On August 27 2010 00:08 xtfftc wrote: Sinatra, let me remind you of my question.
On August 26 2010 06:44 xtfftc wrote: Sinatra, I am yet to see Idra mention anyone's mom. Source?
Is that true or are you just incredibly BM for making up shit for other players?
Literacy is an important thing xtfftc. Maybe you shouldn't put words in my mouth. I never said Idra said anything of the sort. I said he would be "The first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection". Its a figure of speech, meaning, he'd be the first person to come up with some sort of inappropriate insult, in person, after losing to some sort of cheese from you.
Then I go onto say, that I would probably punch him in the face (resort to violence), if someone made such inappropriate comments to me in person. The internet sucks and its a big place and you can't get mad for every single person that talks shit. However, there aren't that many "pro/top level" Starcraft 2 players out there and inevitably we will all run into each other in person. A little manner/respect/social skills would be nice when people eventually run into each other. What if Silver is the next Bisu and ends up in Korea? How are those two going to act in person after Idra bmed the shit out of him? I for one wouldn't even hang out with the crowd that Idra hung out with, let alone talk to him.
Could you imagine the SC1 community being as big as it was if every single person was like Idra? It wouldn't even exist. That community existed because people met other people at LANs, got together, had a great time, started producing content together, etc. People were friendly to each other.
You think you could have a beer with someone if you got beat by them in a competition? Tell you what. Next time you see Idra lose in life. Look at the way he shakes his opponent's hand and you be the judge of whether it was sincere. Hint: Its not sincere if you stand on one leg with your entire body extended just to reach the handshake.
Wow get over it. The point is every single person isn't like idra. What would the community be like if every single person was like you? It would suck. Even if you think you're the most awesome, rad, gnarly dude out there, it would still suck. Why? Because diversity is what makes a good community. Why do you get to dictate the morals and values of a community? I don't really see the point you're trying to make. Then attacking xtffc - you seem almost as bad mannered as what you abhor about idra. I'm not sure what to make of your body language rant, but to me a handshake is a handshake.
On August 27 2010 00:08 xtfftc wrote: Sinatra, let me remind you of my question.
On August 26 2010 06:44 xtfftc wrote: Sinatra, I am yet to see Idra mention anyone's mom. Source?
Is that true or are you just incredibly BM for making up shit for other players?
Literacy is an important thing xtfftc. Maybe you shouldn't put words in my mouth. I never said Idra said anything of the sort. I said he would be "The first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection". Its a figure of speech, meaning, he'd be the first person to come up with some sort of inappropriate insult, in person, after losing to some sort of cheese from you.
Then I go onto say, that I would probably punch him in the face (resort to violence), if someone made such inappropriate comments to me in person. The internet sucks and its a big place and you can't get mad for every single person that talks shit. However, there aren't that many "pro/top level" Starcraft 2 players out there and inevitably we will all run into each other in person. A little manner/respect/social skills would be nice when people eventually run into each other. What if Silver is the next Bisu and ends up in Korea? How are those two going to act in person after Idra bmed the shit out of him? I for one wouldn't even hang out with the crowd that Idra hung out with, let alone talk to him.
Could you imagine the SC1 community being as big as it was if every single person was like Idra? It wouldn't even exist. That community existed because people met other people at LANs, got together, had a great time, started producing content together, etc. People were friendly to each other.
You think you could have a beer with someone if you got beat by them in a competition? Tell you what. Next time you see Idra lose in life. Look at the way he shakes his opponent's hand and you be the judge of whether it was sincere. Hint: Its not sincere if you stand on one leg with your entire body extended just to reach the handshake.
Wow get over it. The point is every single person isn't like idra. What would the community be like if every single person was like you? It would suck. Even if you think you're the most awesome, rad, gnarly dude out there, it would still suck. Why? Because diversity is what makes a good community. Why do you get to dictate the morals and values of a community? I don't really see the point you're trying to make. Then attacking xtffc - you seem almost as bad mannered as what you abhor about idra. I'm not sure what to make of your body language rant, but to me a handshake is a handshake.
lol... I'm not sure why you keep thinking I'm trying to dictate anything. I didn't even say anything about changing the community. All I commented on was a specific player and his attitude and how its immature and not acceptable to act that way for the rest of us (but he gets away with it).
Also, I wasn't attacking xtffc, its called discussion. How am I bad mannered?
I wasn't trying to make a point in the first place, but some how you started flaming me for 'making mountains out of molehills' when that wasn't even the case.
I'm just defending myself against your horrible arguments, horrible posts, putting words in my mouth and hypocrisy .
Fact: Idra has a bad attitude. <-- theres no point to be made here.. its just a fact Fact: I don't like Idra because he has a bad attitude and I'm vocal about it <-- there's still no point to be made here Fact: Acting like a child online is an eyesore <-- still posting a fact, not a "point to be made"
NOT Fact: I said that everyone should have manners <-- see never once did I post about how the community should behave or how the community should act or anything about diversity
By bringing up xtffc's post in your posts, you seem to be just arguing for the sake of arguing, aka flaming. Maybe you should go increase your post count on other threads or something. Get some argumentative experience.
On August 27 2010 00:08 xtfftc wrote: Sinatra, let me remind you of my question.
On August 26 2010 06:44 xtfftc wrote: Sinatra, I am yet to see Idra mention anyone's mom. Source?
Is that true or are you just incredibly BM for making up shit for other players?
Literacy is an important thing xtfftc. Maybe you shouldn't put words in my mouth. I never said Idra said anything of the sort. I said he would be "The first to curse your mother in person over your Starcraft racial selection". Its a figure of speech, meaning, he'd be the first person to come up with some sort of inappropriate insult, in person, after losing to some sort of cheese from you.
Then I go onto say, that I would probably punch him in the face (resort to violence), if someone made such inappropriate comments to me in person. The internet sucks and its a big place and you can't get mad for every single person that talks shit. However, there aren't that many "pro/top level" Starcraft 2 players out there and inevitably we will all run into each other in person. A little manner/respect/social skills would be nice when people eventually run into each other. What if Silver is the next Bisu and ends up in Korea? How are those two going to act in person after Idra bmed the shit out of him? I for one wouldn't even hang out with the crowd that Idra hung out with, let alone talk to him.
Could you imagine the SC1 community being as big as it was if every single person was like Idra? It wouldn't even exist. That community existed because people met other people at LANs, got together, had a great time, started producing content together, etc. People were friendly to each other.
You think you could have a beer with someone if you got beat by them in a competition? Tell you what. Next time you see Idra lose in life. Look at the way he shakes his opponent's hand and you be the judge of whether it was sincere. Hint: Its not sincere if you stand on one leg with your entire body extended just to reach the handshake.
Wow get over it. The point is every single person isn't like idra. What would the community be like if every single person was like you? It would suck. Even if you think you're the most awesome, rad, gnarly dude out there, it would still suck. Why? Because diversity is what makes a good community. Why do you get to dictate the morals and values of a community? I don't really see the point you're trying to make. Then attacking xtffc - you seem almost as bad mannered as what you abhor about idra. I'm not sure what to make of your body language rant, but to me a handshake is a handshake.
lol... I'm not sure why you keep thinking I'm trying to dictate anything. I didn't even say anything about changing the community. All I commented on was a specific player and his attitude and how its immature and not acceptable to act that way for the rest of us (but he gets away with it).
Also, I wasn't attacking xtffc, its called discussion. How am I bad mannered?
I wasn't trying to make a point in the first place, but some how you started flaming me for 'making mountains out of molehills' when that wasn't even the case.
I'm just defending myself against your horrible arguments, horrible posts, putting words in my mouth and hypocrisy .
Fact: Idra has a bad attitude. <-- theres no point to be made here.. its just a fact Fact: I don't like Idra because he has a bad attitude and I'm vocal about it <-- there's still no point to be made here Fact: Acting like a child online is an eyesore <-- still posting a fact, not a "point to be made"
NOT Fact: I said that everyone so have manners <-- see never once did I post about how the community should behave or how the community should act or anything about diversity
By bringing up xtffc's post in your posts, you seem to be just arguing for the sake of arguing, aka flaming. Maybe you should go increase your post count on other threads or something. Get some argumentative experience.
You seem really angry and have an extremely passive-aggressive manner (could be seen as bm). You're the one contradicting yourself and getting seemingly upset when people don't share your point of view. All the "Facts" you have listed are opinions. There is a difference. A fact would be "Idra said xxxx during a game, here's a replay to show it" or "I have brown hair" an opinion is "Idra said xxxx, therefore I think he has a bad attitude" or "I think all people with brown hair are geniuses".
You're "NOT Fact" sentence doesn't make sense so I'm not sure how to respond.
You tell xtffc "Literacy is important" which could be seen by some as an attack, or just a douchey way to start a response, depending on the person seeing it. You seem to be ignoring the facts and questions brought up by your other posts and just digging a deeper and deeper hole. Then you close your post with an ad hominem toward me, while at the same time dismissing my "argumentative experience". Ironic indeed.
On August 27 2010 03:12 rS.Sinatra wrote: So I'm passive-aggressive AND really angry at the same time? Nice... You are clearly new to this whole forum business. Good luck with that.
Comprehension is important rS.Sinatra. Being angry and passive-aggressive aren't mutually exclusive.
Sinatra, you're getting really obnoxious. Do you REALLY need to have the last word? Backache nailed it anyway. Yes IdrA is kinda bm, everyone knows and acknowledges that, but he brings diversity to the scene and that's why he's an interesting character. Having a throng of progamers who never ever step outside the boundaries to say how they feel about the game is definitely very professionnal, but it's also very boring. A splash of drama keeps things interesting.
Yeah hitler was polite, we wouldnt want that!... or you can ignore that comparison. I became an honest to god idra fan during the razer TSL, and my fanboy love shall never die.
On August 27 2010 03:16 lolswedes wrote: Sinatra, you're getting really obnoxious. Do you REALLY need to have the last word? Backache nailed it anyway. Yes IdrA is kinda bm, everyone knows and acknowledges that, but he brings diversity to the scene and that's why he's an interesting character. Having a throng of progamers who never ever step outside the boundaries to say how they feel about the game is definitely very professionnal, but it's also very boring. A splash of drama keeps things interesting.
You don't have to be BM to say what is on your mind. I just stated my opinion and now some kid with 5 posts wants to start a flame war, not exactly me being obnoxious if I'm just trying to defend myself.
I don't need to have the last word, but if someone keeps putting words in my mouth and spewing bullshit in order to coax a response, I'll respond by belittling their efforts.
I'm all for diversity, I'm not for immaturity.
EDIT: Oh look, you have 5 posts too.. maybe you two should combine posts with each other, or maybe you guys are the same account? Who knows...
didnt you get banned for flamming and insulting MorroW with 4 accounts that all got banned?
Yeah excuse me for not finding 5 rax reaper x3 + scouting deny particularly skillful, but hey from now on I'll act like it's amazing and it's totally awesome to have the worse player win because he has enough apm to micro 1 control group of a supereffective TvZ unit, I promise.
Apparently to hang out here you have to deeply respect players who pull off a win with spam reaper/bunker openings (bunkers in the group stage). So yeah lol seeya I guess.
On August 27 2010 03:16 lolswedes wrote: Sinatra, you're getting really obnoxious. Do you REALLY need to have the last word? Backache nailed it anyway. Yes IdrA is kinda bm, everyone knows and acknowledges that, but he brings diversity to the scene and that's why he's an interesting character. Having a throng of progamers who never ever step outside the boundaries to say how they feel about the game is definitely very professionnal, but it's also very boring. A splash of drama keeps things interesting.
You don't have to be BM to say what is on your mind. I just stated my opinion and now some kid with 5 posts wants to start a flame war, not exactly me being obnoxious if I'm just trying to defend myself.
I don't need to have the last word, but if someone keeps putting words in my mouth and spewing bullshit in order to coax a response, I'll respond by belittling their efforts.
I'm all for diversity, I'm not for immaturity.
EDIT: Oh look, you have 5 posts too.. maybe you two should combine posts with each other, or maybe you guys are the same account? Who knows...
No offence, but you've been BM as hell. Just note that. Idra probably feels that terran spews BS, so he insults their efforts.
Exactly. Sinatra is being very bad mannered and immature (bringing up post counts, rather than staying on topic) but it's cool because what he interprets as "bullshit" can be met with belittlement. How is that any different than what he dislikes about idra?
didnt you get banned for flamming and insulting MorroW with 4 accounts that all got banned?
Yeah excuse me for not finding 5 rax reaper x3 + scouting deny particularly skillful, but hey from now on I'll act like it's amazing and it's totally awesome to have the worse player win because he has enough apm to micro 1 control group of a supereffective TvZ unit, I promise.
Apparently to hang out here you have to deeply respect players who pull off a win with spam reaper/bunker openings (bunkers in the group stage). So yeah lol seeya I guess.
You don't get banned for "not finding 5 rax reaper x3 + scouting deny particularly skillful"...
On August 27 2010 03:39 Beef Noodles wrote: How does any of this relate to the Awesomeness that is IdrA? Can't we just sing his praises for all eternity in peace?
On August 27 2010 03:39 Beef Noodles wrote: How does any of this relate to the Awesomeness that is IdrA? Can't we just sing his praises for all eternity in peace?
Don't know, I was pretty consistent about how not-awesome Idra is (I'm on the other side, so what?) as a person until two trolls (PBUs) came in shitting up the thread.
On August 27 2010 03:39 Beef Noodles wrote: How does any of this relate to the Awesomeness that is IdrA? Can't we just sing his praises for all eternity in peace?
Don't know, I was pretty consistent about how not-awesome Idra is (I'm on the other side, so what?) as a person until two trolls (PBUs) came in shitting up the thread.
Idra is awesome, nuff said.
Sinatra there was absolutely no consistency anywhere near your posts. Your BM and immaturity is utterly amazing (borderline delusional), however nowhere near as amazing as the ever vainglorious squire of SC2: idra!
I think all the idra-haters <looks at Sinatra> are really closeted idra-lovers but have general unease about man on man love so it manifests itself in other areas. Embrace it guys. Don't be afraid to bask in the glow of idra's awesome.
On August 27 2010 03:39 Beef Noodles wrote: How does any of this relate to the Awesomeness that is IdrA? Can't we just sing his praises for all eternity in peace?
Don't know, I was pretty consistent about how not-awesome Idra is (I'm on the other side, so what?) as a person until two trolls (PBUs) came in shitting up the thread.
Idra is awesome, nuff said.
Sinatra there was absolutely no consistency anywhere near your posts. Your BM and immaturity is utterly amazing (borderline delusional), however nowhere near as amazing as the ever vainglorious squire of SC2: idra!
I think all the idra-haters <looks at Sinatra> are really closeted idra-lovers but have general unease about man on man love so it manifests itself in other areas. Embrace it guys. Don't be afraid to bask in the glow of idra's awesome.
Idra needs to put on his robe and wizard hat... someone Photoshop that please
Voldemort: You cannot defeat me, for I have conquered death! Idra Potter: Stfu n00b, you are literally the worst wizard Ive ever seen, the only reason anyone calls you the dark lord is because Slytherin is OP.
On August 27 2010 05:50 bumatlarge wrote: I recall harry potter being a complete ass to everyone in the last few books.
Idra needs to put on his robe and wizard hat... someone Photoshop that please
Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have a new convert! Welcome Sinatra to the Church of Idra! Can I get an amen?! It's good to know our missionary work is not without rewards.
Idra needs to put on his robe and wizard hat... someone Photoshop that please
Voldemort: You cannot defeat me, for I have conquered death! Idra Potter: Stfu n00b, you are literally the worst wizard Ive ever seen, the only reason anyone calls you the dark lord is because Slytherin is OP.
Idra Potter: I don't use avada kedavra because i have self-respect.
On August 27 2010 05:50 bumatlarge wrote: I recall harry potter being a complete ass to everyone in the last few books.
Idra needs to put on his robe and wizard hat... someone Photoshop that please
Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have a new convert! Welcome Sinatra to the Church of Idra! Can I get an amen?! It's good to know our missionary work is not without rewards.
Can you honestly just fuck off?
This little bitch has more PM's to me than he does posts... stalker much?
On August 27 2010 03:39 Beef Noodles wrote: How does any of this relate to the Awesomeness that is IdrA? Can't we just sing his praises for all eternity in peace?
Don't know, I was pretty consistent about how not-awesome Idra is (I'm on the other side, so what?) as a person until two trolls (PBUs) came in shitting up the thread.
Idra is awesome, nuff said.
Sinatra there was absolutely no consistency anywhere near your posts. Your BM and immaturity is utterly amazing (borderline delusional), however nowhere near as amazing as the ever vainglorious squire of SC2: idra!
I think all the idra-haters <looks at Sinatra> are really closeted idra-lovers but have general unease about man on man love so it manifests itself in other areas. Embrace it guys. Don't be afraid to bask in the glow of idra's awesome.
On August 27 2010 05:50 bumatlarge wrote: I recall harry potter being a complete ass to everyone in the last few books.
Idra needs to put on his robe and wizard hat... someone Photoshop that please
Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have a new convert! Welcome Sinatra to the Church of Idra! Can I get an amen?! It's good to know our missionary work is not without rewards.
Can you honestly just fuck off?
This little bitch has more PM's to me than he does posts... stalker much?
I like Idra, he doesnt really seem insulting and he brings a good amount of emotion to the game. You need personalities.
best post ever, dunno why everyone hates on idra, seeing as he is the only hope of the foreign scene actually coming to fruition.
i dont mean to bash jinro or TLO but i dont think they will fare aswell in korea as idra has done. establishing him self as the only long term foreigner in korea (im aware of ret's very short career) couldnt have been a small feat by any stretch of the imagination
although hes not on CJ's A-team i feel thats in part due to the lack of communcation that must be apparent between him and his coaches.
either way, keep dominating idra, looking forward to seeing him scooping a few grand prizes at the GOM Global
omg idra should just switch to whatever race is the most OP at the moment (being T right now) and win everything. Seriously if you are in it as a pro for the money just play whats best and leave all feelings and stuff outside.
btw I love idra, i love to BM retards just like he does.
On August 27 2010 23:11 Kylig wrote: omg idra should just switch to whatever race is the most OP at the moment (being T right now) and win everything. Seriously if you are in it as a pro for the money just play whats best and leave all feelings and stuff outside.
btw I love idra, i love to BM retards just like he does.
I think is his pride into being the best, the reason he picked zerg was also because he though he could improve his skills the most there not because it was easy to win.
Idra needs to put on his robe and wizard hat... someone Photoshop that please
Voldemort: You cannot defeat me, for I have conquered death! Idra Potter: Stfu n00b, you are literally the worst wizard Ive ever seen, the only reason anyone calls you the dark lord is because Slytherin is OP.
I'm happy this thread is still up and running. IdrA is a beast, wether you like it or not. Don't cry because he is mastering zerg better than ALL SC2 players. He is getting timings DOWNNNN and his strategies are becoming flawless. I see an ever improving idra that I absolutely LOVE to watch.
PLUS, he BMs like a beast. Its fucking entertaining! Rage on IdrA, we love you.
It maybe common manner to gg at the end of a game but I would think "wp" is greater then gg if it was actually a good game.
I mean does a game deserve a gg if I know I played bad and skrewed up and died to a 4gate because I missed an overlord or something? Then I don't see what the point is in gg'ing tbh.
Every time IdrA refuses to “gg,” I envision Davy Crockett, out of ammunition and completely surrounded at the Alamo, telling 6,000 Mexican soldiers to “go to hell” before the bullets ripped his body apart.
I think Idra does more for ESports than most in terms of his rep. I mean every sport needs a guy you love to hate who backs up everything he does with freakish play. The guy is perfect for Zerg and SC2 I really don't get the hate around him. I mean sure BM is frustrating but its not like he hurts anyone lol. He needs to turn up the BM and not look back man, the more notorious he is the more attention SC2 gets. win win
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