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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 21 2010 20:32 GMT
#1061
Saracen hasn't been posting yet so this is an outdated post, I agree the post above me.. 1300 diamond players are kinda meh when I played them. but haven't fought anyone above that yet.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Boof
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada77 Posts
October 21 2010 20:34 GMT
#1062
So,,, what's the new D-?
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
October 21 2010 20:41 GMT
#1063
On October 22 2010 05:17 thehitman wrote:
I completely agree on your post.

I don't think your comparison between IcCup ranks is true and its way too biased, but I'd say that low level Diamond players (500 points) are C to C+

With B- to B+ being the ones from 501 to 1200 and all above being A-


Couldn't disagree more. His post was a while ago, it's even more in the opposite direction now. I was a D+ BW player and I'm 1250 diamond right now, and tend to rape a lot of people at my level.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
October 21 2010 20:43 GMT
#1064
On October 22 2010 05:41 Loophole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 05:17 thehitman wrote:
I completely agree on your post.

I don't think your comparison between IcCup ranks is true and its way too biased, but I'd say that low level Diamond players (500 points) are C to C+

With B- to B+ being the ones from 501 to 1200 and all above being A-


Couldn't disagree more. His post was a while ago, it's even more in the opposite direction now. I was a D+ BW player and I'm 1250 diamond right now, and tend to rape a lot of people at my level.


True, B should be around 1700s at least.
Boof
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada77 Posts
October 21 2010 20:47 GMT
#1065
So you're all saying D would be around 1200-1300?
Sweet. My goal is to make it to D level and then do nothing but bask in my accomplishment.
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
October 21 2010 20:47 GMT
#1066
TeamLiquid I know is working on something right now, but maybe they should consider the stack overflow model for advice.

http://stackoverflow.com/

They are a programming community, but it would be applicable. The idea is that when you post a reply in a thread, it moves up and down in visibility based on upvotes from other people.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Senorcuidado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States700 Posts
October 21 2010 21:00 GMT
#1067
We should get an inflation rate conversion chart or something. Then again, being able to mass ladder games to get a high rating is still much different from being good and understanding the game. Personally I don't really understand why there is a bonus pool besides just to make people feel good about advancing their score like they're leveling up or something. But it doesn't mean you're getting better, your number just rises with inflation. It would feel a lot better to "level up" if I knew it was due to my hard work at getting better. Of course I could get that if I played more than I do and gained a few hundred points but there aren't enough hours in the day
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 21 2010 21:02 GMT
#1068
On October 22 2010 06:00 Senorcuidado wrote:
We should get an inflation rate conversion chart or something. Then again, being able to mass ladder games to get a high rating is still much different from being good and understanding the game. Personally I don't really understand why there is a bonus pool besides just to make people feel good about advancing their score like they're leveling up or something. But it doesn't mean you're getting better, your number just rises with inflation. It would feel a lot better to "level up" if I knew it was due to my hard work at getting better. Of course I could get that if I played more than I do and gained a few hundred points but there aren't enough hours in the day

In theory, it's around +12 pts a day (bonus pool).
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Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
October 21 2010 21:02 GMT
#1069
The bonus pool is designed to encourage players to take a break from the game once in a while, much like the rested thing in WoW.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 21 2010 21:15 GMT
#1070
B / A- is the top level in the NA Ladder. The very top. I recognize these players, they were incapable of hitting A+ on iccup. Day[9] is an A zerg. Not an A+ zerg, he says it himself. In NA at least the top diamond players are B to A-. IdrA being the only actual A+ player in that top 100 of NA.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
October 21 2010 21:17 GMT
#1071
On October 22 2010 06:15 MYM.Testie wrote:
B / A- is the top level in the NA Ladder. The very top. I recognize these players, they were incapable of hitting A+ on iccup. Day[9] is an A zerg. Not an A+ zerg, he says it himself. In NA at least the top diamond players are B to A-. IdrA being the only actual A+ player in that top 100 of NA.


Truth.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Xtar
Profile Joined October 2010
79 Posts
October 30 2010 17:52 GMT
#1072
Except most of those ranks was from before Korean progamers started to play on Iccup en masse and dodging the few that did play there.

I think this whole thread is silly. Diamond is no different from any other league in how it functions. You just have 5 leagues and each holds 20% of so, I imagine.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
October 30 2010 18:08 GMT
#1073
On October 31 2010 02:52 Xtar wrote:
Except most of those ranks was from before Korean progamers started to play on Iccup en masse and dodging the few that did play there.

I think this whole thread is silly. Diamond is no different from any other league in how it functions. You just have 5 leagues and each holds 20% of so, I imagine.


According to SC2 ranks, Diamond is around 8% of the total players and Bronze around 40%.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
October 30 2010 18:40 GMT
#1074
So within a few weeks I went from knowing who Boxer is to a C level. Fascinating.
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SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 19:16:08
October 30 2010 18:46 GMT
#1075
Yeah im about 1500+ with about 150 bonus pool havent played in weeks I was def not C+ lol, C- (Mostly D+)Barely. But people will get better at this game then what they were in BW and things will change btu I dont see that happening still at least 1 year down the road when the game is more mapped out.
Do it beautifully
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 19:23:40
October 30 2010 19:20 GMT
#1076
i think it's more like this:
Diamond/ICCUP
250=D-
500=D
750=D+
1000=C-
1250=C
1500=C+
1750=B-
2000=B
2250=B+
2500=A-
2750=A
3000=A+

so every 3k points, the difference between a D- and D will be 250, 6k points, will be 500 ecc...
pratically make the maximum point divided by 12 and you are done...
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 19:27:02
October 30 2010 19:26 GMT
#1077
On October 31 2010 04:20 Garmer wrote:
i think it's more like this:
Diamond/ICCUP
250=D-
500=D
750=D+
1000=C-
1250=C
1500=C+
1750=B-
2000=B
2250=B+
2500=A-
2750=A
3000=A+

so every 3k points, the difference between a D- and D will be 250, 6k points, will be 500 ecc...
pratically make the maximum point divided by 12 and you are done...

very wrong D+ would be 1700~1800 imo
Do it beautifully
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
October 30 2010 19:28 GMT
#1078
On October 31 2010 04:20 Garmer wrote:
i think it's more like this:
Diamond/ICCUP
250=D-
500=D
750=D+
1000=C-
1250=C
1500=C+
1750=B-
2000=B
2250=B+
2500=A-
2750=A
3000=A+

so every 3k points, the difference between a D- and D will be 250, 6k points, will be 500 ecc...
pratically make the maximum point divided by 12 and you are done...

Subtract about 250 from each of those and you're right
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
October 30 2010 19:32 GMT
#1079
yeah, we still do not have an A+ player...
Baby_Seal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States360 Posts
October 30 2010 19:33 GMT
#1080
I generally was somewhere between D- and D, and I'm a 1500 Diamond right now. I've gotten better since then though, so I can't really say what exactly would be the equivalent. Maybe D+ or something.
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