• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:59
CEST 16:59
KST 23:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak10DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Info & Preview19herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, GuMiho, Classic, Cure6Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho4
Community News
[BSL20] RO20 Group Stage0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)7Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3Code S Season 2 (2025) - Qualifier Results212025 GSL Season 2 (Qualifiers)14
StarCraft 2
General
DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Info & Preview Power Rank: October 2018 herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025) Code S Season 2 (2025) - Qualifier Results Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho
Tourneys
DreamHack Dallas 2025 Last Chance Qualifiers for OlimoLeague 2024 Winter $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed
Brood War
General
BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak BW General Discussion Cwal.gg not working Artosis baned on twitch ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL19] Semifinal B [BSL20] RO20 Group Stage Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Grand Theft Auto VI Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Yes Sir! How Commanding Impr…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11705 users

oGssSKS and oGsCool quit oGs clan - Page 9

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 Next All
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 23 2010 23:07 GMT
#161
What a big shame. Cool was my favourite zerg in the world ): Tester seems confident that both he and Cool are the best players in the world and that either of them can win the GSL. I don't doubt him.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
August 23 2010 23:09 GMT
#162
On August 23 2010 21:00 OhJesusWOW wrote:
Play more freely = Play in the nude. I think its a good choice on their behalf. Comfort and confidence are a huge part of the game. Clothes just weigh you down.


ahahahaha
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 23:10:41
August 23 2010 23:10 GMT
#163
The idea that it's because foreigners are moving in is laughably ridiculous. They're both ex-eSTRO players for fuck's sake, they've probably spent more time with at least one foreigner than without one.
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
August 23 2010 23:15 GMT
#164
Are they sort of affiliated? It seems like they left on pretty good terms.

Otherwise, this kind of means that Prime vs. oGs is now much more of a heated debate. I suppose Ensnare can still all-kill Prime, as long as Anypro is not available.
leviathan20
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom193 Posts
August 23 2010 23:36 GMT
#165
Q- You are becoming the hope to a lot of zerg players out there.
A- I havent been giving 100% so far. I just wanted to have fun and thats why i played it. In the GSL, i will definitely show my best. If you see it yourself, you will know.


Oh shi....

Cool at 100% is a scary proposition then.
"We better get that boy a waffle NOW or he gon' DIE!"
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
August 23 2010 23:42 GMT
#166
I guess oGs was more a losely based clan for friends to train together, right? I don't think they got paid and had a sponsor or sth. I think they just wanna put it out there that they are available. ^^'
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 01:54:46
August 24 2010 01:54 GMT
#167
On August 24 2010 07:04 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 06:02 Ocedic wrote:
On August 23 2010 20:00 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:58 vyyye wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:57 HeIios wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:55 AyJay wrote:
Are they afraid of TLO? :o


Maybe they disagree with the teams decision to let foreigners into their house?
MAYBE. "Playing more freely" doesn't really sound like a real reason to me.

The hell are you basing that on?

Some East Asian cultures tend to place emphasis on mutual exclusivity in the workplace to their own people. Not sure if SK does this, but I know many businesses in Japan and China don't hire foreigners.


Yes, let's treat all East Asians as one giant entity with no free will or individuality. Asians left their team, the white man is moving in, it must be because the Asians hate the white man. No other reason for quitting a team, nope.


Grow up. Asian cultures aren't as liberal as western ones are. Just because something is PC doesn't make it true.


I'm Chinese/Vietnamese American. I've been to Japan, China and Taiwan and have family there. It's not a matter of PC vs non-PC; there's a lot of Asian stereotypes that are more truth than fiction. But Asians hating westerners? You have no idea what you're talking about, so don't try and tell me what my culture is about you tool.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 01:58:53
August 24 2010 01:58 GMT
#168
On August 24 2010 08:36 leviathan20 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q- You are becoming the hope to a lot of zerg players out there.
A- I havent been giving 100% so far. I just wanted to have fun and thats why i played it. In the GSL, i will definitely show my best. If you see it yourself, you will know.


Oh shi....

Cool at 100% is a scary proposition then.


Cool in his final form:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


In all seriousness, hopefully he means new strategies. I want to see a Zerg revolution, not just I'm doing everything normally, just 100x better.
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
August 24 2010 02:00 GMT
#169
You just said you cant judge and base facts on Asian culture as a whole and yet you say they aren't one way and are another. Just wanted to point that out. ^^
Being weak is a choice.
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
August 24 2010 02:15 GMT
#170
i don't really understand this "because they will have to work with foreigners" thing. koreans don't hate westerners. korea, is the second most western culture that isn't in the west (next to japan). they didn't adopt their very western culture unwillingly. they were eager to compete in the global market, and done that they have.

i think the two either were just restricted in one way or another by the team or they got a better offer from another team.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 24 2010 02:31 GMT
#171
Seems to me "more freely" means they dont want to practice 12 hours a day and not get paid or get paid very little for it.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
san-tokie
Profile Joined May 2007
Korea (South)185 Posts
August 24 2010 02:49 GMT
#172
On August 23 2010 22:46 junkacc wrote:
- 이번 GSL의 유력한 우승 후보 중 하나다.
▲ 우승을 할 수 있다고 생각하고 있다. 그래도 공성전에서 우승을 하기는 했지만 토너먼트는 어떻게 될지 모른다. 단판 토너먼트가 아니라 다행이기는 하지만, 내가 그 동안 여러 방송을 통해서 알려져있기 때문에 걱정이다. 스타2는 실력 차이가 많이 나더라도 이길 수 있는 게임이다. 스타1은 그렇지 못한데, 스타2는 전략이 다양하다. 불의의 전략을 조심해야 할 것 같다.

You are one of the favorites to take out the GSL
I think I can win. Although I won the 공성전 (king of the hill?), I'm not too sure about tournaments. Although I'm glad it won't be single-match games, I'm concerned that I've become known too well through many broadcasts. SC2 is a game where anyone can win even if the skill level is very wide. BW is not like that, but SC2 has many strategies. One must be careful of cheese.


Tester sums up my feelings nicely about SC2~
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 24 2010 05:41 GMT
#173
On August 24 2010 10:54 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 07:04 Sabu113 wrote:
On August 24 2010 06:02 Ocedic wrote:
On August 23 2010 20:00 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:58 vyyye wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:57 HeIios wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:55 AyJay wrote:
Are they afraid of TLO? :o


Maybe they disagree with the teams decision to let foreigners into their house?
MAYBE. "Playing more freely" doesn't really sound like a real reason to me.

The hell are you basing that on?

Some East Asian cultures tend to place emphasis on mutual exclusivity in the workplace to their own people. Not sure if SK does this, but I know many businesses in Japan and China don't hire foreigners.


Yes, let's treat all East Asians as one giant entity with no free will or individuality. Asians left their team, the white man is moving in, it must be because the Asians hate the white man. No other reason for quitting a team, nope.


Grow up. Asian cultures aren't as liberal as western ones are. Just because something is PC doesn't make it true.


I'm Chinese/Vietnamese American. I've been to Japan, China and Taiwan and have family there. It's not a matter of PC vs non-PC; there's a lot of Asian stereotypes that are more truth than fiction. But Asians hating westerners? You have no idea what you're talking about, so don't try and tell me what my culture is about you tool.


Oh please. Asian doesn't see any hate towards white people in Asia? You must know hell of alot about it then. None hasn't been saying anything about all the Asians hating westerns. The fact is that there is places in Asia where people doesn't like white people. It's same in everywhere, some people doesn't like other people if they are different race.

And no, I'm not saying that Tester or Cool are this type of persons. This went off-topic, but just had to clear out some facts. peace~
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 24 2010 05:47 GMT
#174
unreal faggots
why so 진지해?
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
August 24 2010 05:50 GMT
#175
This thread is hilarious. I like how it's devolved into "ASIANS HATE WHITE PEOPLE". wtf lol!
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
August 24 2010 05:57 GMT
#176
On August 23 2010 20:07 HeIios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2010 20:05 fearus wrote:
On August 23 2010 20:00 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:58 vyyye wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:57 HeIios wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:55 AyJay wrote:
Are they afraid of TLO? :o


Maybe they disagree with the teams decision to let foreigners into their house?
MAYBE. "Playing more freely" doesn't really sound like a real reason to me.

The hell are you basing that on?

Some East Asian cultures tend to place emphasis on mutual exclusivity in the workplace to their own people. Not sure if SK does this, but I know many businesses in Japan and China don't hire foreigners.



I know many businesses in Japan and China who hire foreigner actors to sit at their offices in order to look better.


Oh shit son, give me their number and I'll take the first flight to Japan for my employment.



haha my first paid job in china was to "wear a suit and pose as an architect" at a meeting. got paid in cash for the day. not bad...
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 06:00:05
August 24 2010 05:59 GMT
#177
On August 24 2010 14:41 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 10:54 Ocedic wrote:
On August 24 2010 07:04 Sabu113 wrote:
On August 24 2010 06:02 Ocedic wrote:
On August 23 2010 20:00 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:58 vyyye wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:57 HeIios wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:55 AyJay wrote:
Are they afraid of TLO? :o


Maybe they disagree with the teams decision to let foreigners into their house?
MAYBE. "Playing more freely" doesn't really sound like a real reason to me.

The hell are you basing that on?

Some East Asian cultures tend to place emphasis on mutual exclusivity in the workplace to their own people. Not sure if SK does this, but I know many businesses in Japan and China don't hire foreigners.


Yes, let's treat all East Asians as one giant entity with no free will or individuality. Asians left their team, the white man is moving in, it must be because the Asians hate the white man. No other reason for quitting a team, nope.


Grow up. Asian cultures aren't as liberal as western ones are. Just because something is PC doesn't make it true.


I'm Chinese/Vietnamese American. I've been to Japan, China and Taiwan and have family there. It's not a matter of PC vs non-PC; there's a lot of Asian stereotypes that are more truth than fiction. But Asians hating westerners? You have no idea what you're talking about, so don't try and tell me what my culture is about you tool.


Oh please. Asian doesn't see any hate towards white people in Asia? You must know hell of alot about it then. None hasn't been saying anything about all the Asians hating westerns. The fact is that there is places in Asia where people doesn't like white people. It's same in everywhere, some people doesn't like other people if they are different race.

And no, I'm not saying that Tester or Cool are this type of persons. This went off-topic, but just had to clear out some facts. peace~


So 'in some parts of Asia, Asians hate white people' translates to tester leaving the team because TLO is coming? That is where this original discussion spawned and the point of this thread, by the way.

Get over yourself; the world doesn't revolve around whites. TLO going to Korea didn't send the entire country into panic or some shit. Believe it or not, people CAN leave teams for reasons other than racism.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
August 24 2010 08:31 GMT
#178
On August 24 2010 11:49 san-tokie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2010 22:46 junkacc wrote:
- 이번 GSL의 유력한 우승 후보 중 하나다.
▲ 우승을 할 수 있다고 생각하고 있다. 그래도 공성전에서 우승을 하기는 했지만 토너먼트는 어떻게 될지 모른다. 단판 토너먼트가 아니라 다행이기는 하지만, 내가 그 동안 여러 방송을 통해서 알려져있기 때문에 걱정이다. 스타2는 실력 차이가 많이 나더라도 이길 수 있는 게임이다. 스타1은 그렇지 못한데, 스타2는 전략이 다양하다. 불의의 전략을 조심해야 할 것 같다.

You are one of the favorites to take out the GSL
I think I can win. Although I won the 공성전 (king of the hill?), I'm not too sure about tournaments. Although I'm glad it won't be single-match games, I'm concerned that I've become known too well through many broadcasts. SC2 is a game where anyone can win even if the skill level is very wide. BW is not like that, but SC2 has many strategies. One must be careful of cheese.


Tester sums up my feelings nicely about SC2~

The beauty about picking your quotes is that you can make it seem like anyone agrees with you! The interview on the whole makes it seem like he feels that's only true because it's a new game that's being played mostly by amateur gamers at the moment, not because it's an inferior game. He makes it clear that when professionals pop on over it's going to become fiercely hard, which is the sign of a great competitive game.
Who dat ninja?
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
August 24 2010 08:33 GMT
#179
Tester is so awesome and actually gives answers that make sense unlike other korean progamers.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 08:41:58
August 24 2010 08:40 GMT
#180
On August 24 2010 14:59 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 14:41 Grettin wrote:
On August 24 2010 10:54 Ocedic wrote:
On August 24 2010 07:04 Sabu113 wrote:
On August 24 2010 06:02 Ocedic wrote:
On August 23 2010 20:00 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:58 vyyye wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:57 HeIios wrote:
On August 23 2010 19:55 AyJay wrote:
Are they afraid of TLO? :o


Maybe they disagree with the teams decision to let foreigners into their house?
MAYBE. "Playing more freely" doesn't really sound like a real reason to me.

The hell are you basing that on?

Some East Asian cultures tend to place emphasis on mutual exclusivity in the workplace to their own people. Not sure if SK does this, but I know many businesses in Japan and China don't hire foreigners.


Yes, let's treat all East Asians as one giant entity with no free will or individuality. Asians left their team, the white man is moving in, it must be because the Asians hate the white man. No other reason for quitting a team, nope.


Grow up. Asian cultures aren't as liberal as western ones are. Just because something is PC doesn't make it true.


I'm Chinese/Vietnamese American. I've been to Japan, China and Taiwan and have family there. It's not a matter of PC vs non-PC; there's a lot of Asian stereotypes that are more truth than fiction. But Asians hating westerners? You have no idea what you're talking about, so don't try and tell me what my culture is about you tool.


Oh please. Asian doesn't see any hate towards white people in Asia? You must know hell of alot about it then. None hasn't been saying anything about all the Asians hating westerns. The fact is that there is places in Asia where people doesn't like white people. It's same in everywhere, some people doesn't like other people if they are different race.

And no, I'm not saying that Tester or Cool are this type of persons. This went off-topic, but just had to clear out some facts. peace~


So 'in some parts of Asia, Asians hate white people' translates to tester leaving the team because TLO is coming? That is where this original discussion spawned and the point of this thread, by the way.

Get over yourself; the world doesn't revolve around whites. TLO going to Korea didn't send the entire country into panic or some shit. Believe it or not, people CAN leave teams for reasons other than racism.


Cant you read? As i clearly said, im not saying that Tester or Cool are this type of persons or that is the reason they left the team. I'm only talking about racism between Asians and whites, but seems that you really can't read properly. And if you would've read the whole post, you would have noticed the last sentence.

Get your head from your ass and start reading what people say to you. But really, lets not talk about this in this thread. It went horribly off-topic already.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .267
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 28473
Calm 6808
Rain 3995
Shuttle 2273
EffOrt 1578
Stork 477
Yoon 456
ggaemo 310
Light 295
actioN 278
[ Show more ]
Zeus 171
hero 136
Shine 118
Dewaltoss 115
Mind 108
Pusan 94
Nal_rA 78
PianO 75
Sharp 68
Mong 54
sSak 53
Killer 52
sas.Sziky 44
Rush 38
ToSsGirL 31
Backho 30
Aegong 25
Barracks 25
soO 17
zelot 17
GoRush 16
sorry 13
scan(afreeca) 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Terrorterran 12
HiyA 11
Hm[arnc] 11
Noble 10
JulyZerg 10
Sacsri 7
Movie 5
Sexy 4
ivOry 3
Stormgate
RushiSC46
Dota 2
Gorgc11341
qojqva2457
XcaliburYe223
Counter-Strike
Foxcn515
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor206
Other Games
B2W.Neo2523
hiko1161
Beastyqt451
crisheroes409
DeMusliM364
ArmadaUGS208
Fuzer 162
KnowMe129
XaKoH 113
Liquid`VortiX64
Rex61
QueenE50
Organizations
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 323
Other Games
BasetradeTV80
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1795
League of Legends
• Nemesis3981
• Jankos1517
Upcoming Events
Road to EWC
1m
ewc_black559
CranKy Ducklings60
Replay Cast
19h 1m
SC Evo League
21h 1m
Road to EWC
1d
Afreeca Starleague
1d 14h
BeSt vs Soulkey
Road to EWC
1d 23h
Wardi Open
2 days
SOOP
3 days
NightMare vs Wayne
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
GSL Code S
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
Solar vs Creator
The PondCast
4 days
Online Event
5 days
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
GSL Code S
5 days
GuMiho vs Bunny
ByuN vs SHIN
Online Event
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-16
2025 GSL S1
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

Rose Open S1
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.