EPTTester, the hope of Protoss worldwide and Cool, the best zerg worldwide =(
oGssSKS and oGsCool quit oGs clan - Page 10
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Latham
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Tester, the hope of Protoss worldwide and Cool, the best zerg worldwide =( | ||
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mkchoi0801
Canada125 Posts
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On August 24 2010 17:40 Grettin wrote: Cant you read? As i clearly said, im not saying that Tester or Cool are this type of persons or that is the reason they left the team. I'm only talking about racism between Asians and whites, but seems that you really can't read properly. And if you would've read the whole post, you would have noticed the last sentence. Get your head from your ass and start reading what people say to you. But really, lets not talk about this in this thread. It went horribly off-topic already. So all you can argue is semantics apparently; I'll bite: Read my second post and tell me where I said NO Asians hate Whites. Which brings up the question of why you even bothered to post in the first place? Yes every country has racists. Thanks for enlightening us. My entire argument was that Tester leaving the team for reasons of racism were laughable conjecture. If you don't disagree, then stop arguing for the sake of arguing you childish wench. | ||
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SuperGnu
Sweden240 Posts
On August 23 2010 19:58 AyJay wrote: FOREIGNERS ARE NOT TO BE ALLOWED TO PLAY THIS GAME PROFESSIONALLY /ragequit edit: or maybe they want to complete single player and ogs doesn't allow them? Lol :D LOL indeed  | ||
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hefty
Denmark555 Posts
On August 24 2010 21:17 Ocedic wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On August 24 2010 17:40 Grettin wrote: Cant you read? As i clearly said, im not saying that Tester or Cool are this type of persons or that is the reason they left the team. I'm only talking about racism between Asians and whites, but seems that you really can't read properly. And if you would've read the whole post, you would have noticed the last sentence. Get your head from your ass and start reading what people say to you. But really, lets not talk about this in this thread. It went horribly off-topic already. So all you can argue is semantics apparently; I'll bite: Read my second post and tell me where I said NO Asians hate Whites. Which brings up the question of why you even bothered to post in the first place? Yes every country has racists. Thanks for enlightening us. My entire argument was that Tester leaving the team for reasons of racism were laughable conjecture. If you don't disagree, then stop arguing for the sake of arguing you childish wench. Biohazard presented that thought, Grettin pointed out it was purely speculation. It is, and the generelization about racism is true (having in mind it's only a generelization) and related to the speculation Biohazard presented. Grettin is not out of line, you are getting overly hostile though. Don't know why you think you need to be defensive about this, jlig. | ||
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SuperGnu
Sweden240 Posts
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DarkSeerTurbo
United States105 Posts
unfortunately this has become the case. not going to qq but i do wish that skill was more evident in SC2. all the auto everything has really evened out the playing field. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On August 25 2010 02:20 DarkSeerTurbo wrote: "SC2 is a game where anyone can win even if the skill level is very wide. BW is not like that" --Cool's interview unfortunately this has become the case. not going to qq but i do wish that skill was more evident in SC2. all the auto everything has really evened out the playing field. If you read the entire interview, you'd know that he meant that everyone playing SC2 is relatively new to it, not that it requires less skill because of the game itself. | ||
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st3roids
Greece538 Posts
On August 25 2010 01:54 SuperGnu wrote: The 2 most racist countries in the world is Southafrica(no not the white ppl there even if they are to) and Japan. maybe cause the first had apartheid and the second atomic bomb drops ? just maybe . furthemore how is possible for a player who joins international tournaments and gives reviews to western dudes ( tester ) to be that racists. Maybe the ones who mention this are , so they tend to think this way . | ||
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Santiago4ever
Sweden299 Posts
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
just wanted to enjoy it On August 25 2010 01:54 SuperGnu wrote: The 2 most racist countries in the world is Southafrica(no not the white ppl there even if they are to) and Japan. Lol. I'm South African and I really have to ask - have you ever even been there? Or are you just talking out your ass like a 'tard. My money is on the latter. | ||
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Grettin
42383 Posts
On August 25 2010 08:14 st3roids wrote: maybe cause the first had apartheid and the second atomic bomb drops ? just maybe . furthemore how is possible for a player who joins international tournaments and gives reviews to western dudes ( tester ) to be that racists. Maybe the ones who mention this are , so they tend to think this way . It was just a speculation. It doesn't make you racist. But even Spunky said in his interview with Liquid´ that oGs team members would 'rather' have Koreans to practise with them than foreigners, but they don't have anything against it if they come to practise with them. Most oGs members are looking forward to it, but some still think foreigners are really behind in game level compared to Koreans so would rather just have other Koreans join the team, as opposed to foreigners. This shouldn’t be interpreted as racism, it’s just a mindset over here. -Spunky | ||
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
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zerg4hire
81 Posts
sersiously, Fruitsellre makes zerg look op. From their persepective, i guess he doesnt feel like he wants to play with the foreigners. especially teaching or showing them the techniques they've studied all this time. think of it this way, its like 1 asian dude going into a school full of white people but this time its reversed, now get it ? why cant the world be a better place, just stop hating on each other. | ||
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teko
Canada1197 Posts
On August 26 2010 00:36 zerg4hire wrote: lol fruitseller and SKs both top players in korea. sersiously, Fruitsellre makes zerg look op. From their persepective, i guess he doesnt feel like he wants to play with the foreigners. especially teaching or showing them the techniques they've studied all this time. think of it this way, its like 1 asian dude going into a school full of white people but this time its reversed, now get it ? why cant the world be a better place, just stop hating on each other. Perhaps you should read the interviews before posting speculations: - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6102326 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6104251 | ||
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
Just in case you didn't know... the TL team (foreigners) are in Korea with the oGs team. spunky is pretty political but it looks like some oGs team members don't like having foreigners around. + Show Spoiler + So given that your players know that soon they'll be in the same team house with Liquid, what have their reactions been like in general? Well I am pretty sure the TL guys are very excited. Most oGs members are looking forward to it, but some still think foreigners are really behind in game level compared to Koreans so would rather just have other Koreans join the team, as opposed to foreigners. This shouldn’t be interpreted as racism, it’s just a mindset over here. However, since I've been close with all foreign players and Koreans for 10 years now, I know for a fact that this alliance will be the benefit for both TL and oGs | ||
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robertdinh
803 Posts
On August 26 2010 00:36 zerg4hire wrote: lol fruitseller and SKs both top players in korea. sersiously, Fruitsellre makes zerg look op. From their persepective, i guess he doesnt feel like he wants to play with the foreigners. especially teaching or showing them the techniques they've studied all this time. think of it this way, its like 1 asian dude going into a school full of white people but this time its reversed, now get it ? why cant the world be a better place, just stop hating on each other. I don't see why players that compete against each other should be obligated to make the competition better. For example if tester creates some godly protoss build, why should he want to go show that to other protoss players just so they can regurgitate it and then act like they are good. RTS lost it's innovative component long ago, now everything is on replay and you can watch the exact actions players take. A lot of people appear better than they are because they can copy streamlined builds and win a good percentage of the time based on the rock paper scissor element of sc2. In BW you had people trying to copy, but because the skill ceiling was a bit higher there were just things a player could not copy from someone like jaedong or flash because they simply can't play at that level. | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On August 25 2010 17:34 Grettin wrote: It was just a speculation. It doesn't make you racist. On August 26 2010 00:36 zerg4hire wrote: lol fruitseller and SKs both top players in korea. sersiously, Fruitsellre makes zerg look op. From their persepective, i guess he doesnt feel like he wants to play with the foreigners. especially teaching or showing them the techniques they've studied all this time. think of it this way, its like 1 asian dude going into a school full of white people but this time its reversed, now get it ? why cant the world be a better place, just stop hating on each other. Your 'speculation' breeds more ignorance. This thread is beyond ridiculous. Please name me a source that stated these players left due to racism. Otherwise, stop making wild conjecture based on your anglo-centric perceptions about Asia. | ||
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SubtleArt
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Dystisis
Norway713 Posts
On August 26 2010 01:25 robertdinh wrote: I don't see why players that compete against each other should be obligated to make the competition better. For example if tester creates some godly protoss build, why should he want to go show that to other protoss players just so they can regurgitate it and then act like they are good. RTS lost it's innovative component long ago, now everything is on replay and you can watch the exact actions players take. A lot of people appear better than they are because they can copy streamlined builds and win a good percentage of the time based on the rock paper scissor element of sc2. In BW you had people trying to copy, but because the skill ceiling was a bit higher there were just things a player could not copy from someone like jaedong or flash because they simply can't play at that level. The "skill ceiling" is based on how good players actually do in a game. It can be heightened infinitely. At the current state, players have not spent enough time training in SC2 to actually heighten the ceiling. Thus, more people are able to perform what is considered 'good'; near the ceiling. Exactly the same was true when the original SC came out. I disagree with your thoughts about competition. Sure, Starcraft as a game is about competition to some extent. Yet it is also about a culture. Players learning from each other is good for the culture. Players who are extremely good will be able to stand out from the rest, because that is what we mean by "being good". | ||
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