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Grettin
42381 Posts
On August 24 2010 01:31 rexyrex wrote: you try to make that sound so easy... Just staring at a computer screen with a blank mind for 10h is said to be extremely tiring for the eyes. And for your whole body, especially back. After a week you are pretty much crushed. And i doubt you have time for Gym if you need to practise alot. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On August 24 2010 01:36 junkacc wrote: damn I shoulda translated the Fruitseller interview instead. This guy doesn't beat around the bush. Oh well. Some other korean guy can take a crack at it. And no, none of the conspiracy theories are correct. Fruitseller and Tester just got tired of the strict regiment in the team. They felt it was hindering their enjoyment. dude, stand up and translate this man, nobody else is even on to this yet and make a new thread for the 2 interviews when you're done, definite deserve their own thread. | ||
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chocoed
United States398 Posts
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
Legit answer: They might be looking to start another team or are open to joining another salaried team shortly. | ||
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junkacc
99 Posts
- 스타1과 스타2의 차이점은 무엇인가? ▲ 스타1을 했을 때 게을렀던 이유는 '손이 느려서 였다'다. 자원이 너무 많이 남는다. 하지만 스타2는 인터페이스가 쉽다. 아직까지는 손속도가 매우 중요하지는 않지만, 앞으로 스타1 현역 선수들이 들어오거나 시간이 더 지나면 손속도는 더욱 중요해질 것 같다. What are the differences between BW and SC2? The reason I got lazy in BW was because of my slow hands. I kept piling up too much resources because I couldn't use it. But SC2 has a better interface. Having quick hands is not so essential now but I feel when the current BW pros come over, quick hands will become very important. Oh and to clear up any misunderstanding about the foreign player remark I made, here's the full quote: - 스타1 현역 선수들이 스타2를 한다면 어떨 것 같은가? ▲ 프로게임단에 있으면 게임을 10시간 정도로 하는데, 다들 손이 좋다. 아마추어들보다는 적응하는 기간도 빠를 것이다. 하지만 와서 특출나게 잘할 수 있는 사람은 지금 스타1에서 최상위권에 있는 선수들일 것 같다. 스타1에서 안되는 친구들은 스타2에서도 안될 수도 있다. 성공을 해야겠다는 마인드와 자세가 매우 중요하다. 스타2에서도 정말 열심히 해야한다. How do you think the current BW pros would fare in SC2? All the pros practise 10 hours [a day] and they have good hands. They would have a shorter adjustment period than amateurs. But the pros on top of the current standings would be exceptional. If you're bad at BW, you'll probably be bad at SC2. You must have a mindset and a determination to succeed. You must be as diligent in SC2 as in BW. | ||
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Brad
2754 Posts
On August 24 2010 02:18 junkacc wrote: Well, this GSL might be the only chance you get. According to Fruitseller: - 스타1과 스타2의 차이점은 무엇인가? ▲ 스타1을 했을 때 게을렀던 이유는 '손이 느려서 였다'다. 자원이 너무 많이 남는다. 하지만 스타2는 인터페이스가 쉽다. 아직까지는 손속도가 매우 중요하지는 않지만, 앞으로 스타1 현역 선수들이 들어오거나 시간이 더 지나면 손속도는 더욱 중요해질 것 같다. What are the differences between BW and SC2? The reason I got lazy in BW was because of my slow hands. I kept piling up too much resources because I couldn't use it. But SC2 has a better interface. Having quick hands is not so essential now but I feel when the current BW pros come over, quick hands will become very important. Oh and to clear up any misunderstanding about the foreign player remark I made, here's the full quote: - 스타1 현역 선수들이 스타2를 한다면 어떨 것 같은가? ▲ 프로게임단에 있으면 게임을 10시간 정도로 하는데, 다들 손이 좋다. 아마추어들보다는 적응하는 기간도 빠를 것이다. 하지만 와서 특출나게 잘할 수 있는 사람은 지금 스타1에서 최상위권에 있는 선수들일 것 같다. 스타1에서 안되는 친구들은 스타2에서도 안될 수도 있다. 성공을 해야겠다는 마인드와 자세가 매우 중요하다. 스타2에서도 정말 열심히 해야한다. How do you think the current BW pros would fare in SC2? All the pros practise 10 hours [a day] and they have good hands. They would have a shorter adjustment period than amateurs. But the pros on top of the current standings would be exceptional. If you're bad at BW, you'll probably be bad at SC2. You must have a mindset and a determination to succeed. You must be as diligent in SC2 as in BW. Yeah, that makes more sense. Fruitseller seems to be saying that you need the same dedication and determination to succeed in SC2, as if it were BW. From what I've seen so far, the top foreigners have showed this to some extent. Obviously they will have to commit more time to SC2 as the game progresses. With teams like SK, etc coming into the fray i see this coming more of a possibility in the future compared to foreigner BW. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On August 24 2010 01:36 junkacc wrote: - 저그 종족이 매우 힘들다고 하더라. ▲ 타종족으로 해도 지금 저그 잘한다는 사람들을 이길 수 있을 정도의 자신감을 갖고 있고 그 만큼 저그가 힘들다. 저그 같은 경우는 아직 세세한 부분이 정립이 되어 있지 않다. 나쁘지는 않은데 중후반으로 넘어가면서 힘싸움에서 다른 종족을 이기기가 너무 힘들다. Is zerg underpowered? I have enough confidence to beat any zerg, no matter how good they are, with a different race. That's how difficult it is for zerg. Zerg are lacking the small details at the moment. It's not terrible but it's very hard to win the brute force battles against other races after mid-late game. So.. the best Korean zerg in the world (Cool), the best European zerg (Dimaga) and the best American (Idra) all think Zerg is broken (along with tons of others). But Blizzard is still pointing at the Korean ladder.. "oh look they're doing fine". | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On August 24 2010 02:53 bokchoi wrote: Basically from the Cool interview, he says that he hasn't been practicing that much and he hates the idea that you have to practice hard/constantly to be successful and thats the reason why he left oGs with Tester and says that they're living together and practicing much more freely. But they are sooo good... That kinda pisses me off. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On August 24 2010 02:53 bokchoi wrote: Basically from the Cool interview, he says that he hasn't been practicing that much and he hates the idea that you have to practice hard/constantly to be successful and thats the reason why he left oGs with Tester and says that they're living together and practicing much more freely. He is right, the age of 10 hour practices are over, mental advances will start to take the edge over burning yourself out. For any sort of longevity in the scene you will be better off creating a practice regiment with balance instead of just trying to cram games in. | ||
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EnderCN
United States499 Posts
On August 24 2010 02:53 teamsolid wrote: So.. the best Korean zerg in the world (Cool), the best European zerg (Dimaga) and the best American (Idra) all think Zerg is broken (along with tons of others). But Blizzard is still pointing at the Korean ladder.. "oh look they're doing fine". Actually Blizzard was already nerfing Terran on their internal servers before the game was even released. Just look at patch 17 of beta which reverted some changes that were meant for their internal servers. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Q- What have you been up to after you retirement as a progamer? A- I've been doing this and that after my retirement. I couldnt get a postponement on my military service so i had to do that quite abruptly. I didnt find out i was going until just 3 days before (laughter). I quit work and reported in but my health wasnt great so i had to leave the training camp prematurely. It was the worst situation to be in. I was so embarrassed i submerged (korean expression for staying on the low) for around a month (another laughter). I tried going back to work but things werent going so great so i got into Starcraft 2(SC2) during my breaks. After playing for a while, i attended some tournaments with good players and things just continued to this point in time (more laughter  )Q- Why did you decide to quit the progaming scene in the first place? A- I retired because i was lazy. I wasnt improving much so i made the decision to quit. To be frank, when i started playing SC2, i wasnt thinking about tournaments but just enjoying the game. However as the tournaments grew in size, so did my ambition. That naturally led to concerns about how much practice hours to put in. I dont practice a lot but i want to change that. Q- Compared to other former BW players, you are distinguishing yourself. thoughts? A- I do think i am better then most but thats down to the fact that there are a lot former Warcraft 3 players on the SC2 scene. Its SC2 not Warcraft 4. So this is why i think im more equipped in the fundamentals to do better. Q- I heard Zerg is a very hard race to play with. A- Even with the other races, i am quite confident that i can beat good zerg players. Thats how hard zerg is. Unlike other races, zerg's main powers are yet to be established. Its not bad but as you transition into mid-late games, its very hard to stand toe to toe with armies of the other races. Q- You are famous as 'Fruitseller'. why did you choose that ID? A- Thats my family's business. During the closed beta time (between phase 1 and 2) i helped out with the family and when i came back with the 2nd phase, the ID had been reset. So i just chose 'Fruitseller'. My ID during phase 1 was 'Stick-man' and many were recognising me. the reason i changed was because i wanted less of that. Q- Whats the difference between SC1 and SC2? A- The reason i was lazy when i played SC1 was because i had slow hands. I ended up having a lot of resources built up but in SC2, the interface is easier. Right now the hand speed isnt very important but as the active SC1 progamers come into the scene and time passes, im sure it will become much more important. Q- The GSL is coming up, are you practicing much? A- Frankly i dont practice that much even now (laughter). I dont like the fixation that i have to practice a lot. This is the reason i left oGs and its methodical nature with Tester and i am having fun practicing. To be honest, to win the GSL, i need to practice more and im sure there are others who are clocking in a lot more then i am. Im in a situation where i need to force myself to play games (laughter) and its difficult but i really need to be dilligent now. In truth, i just want to enjoy SC2. Q- You are becoming the hope to a lot of zerg players out there. A- I havent been giving 100% so far. I just wanted to have fun and thats why i played it. In the GSL, i will definitely show my best. If you see it yourself, you will know. Q- What do you think it'll be like if the currently active SC1 progamers play SC2? A- If you're in a progaming team, you play around 10 hours a day and thats why they have great hand skills. Im sure they will adapt quicker then the amateurs. However i think only the top tier players in SC1 right now can make the tranisition and become outstanding SC2 players. Those not at the top in SC1 can face the same situation in SC2. Whats important is the mindset and attitude to succeed. You really have to work your socks off in SC2 as well. Q- Surely though, they will have an advantage? A- SC1 and SC2 are different games. However it is still important to micro well to buy yourself time and i think SC1 players will have an advantage here. The great improvement in interface means its become quite comfortable to play. Also there is great diversity in strategies. I think in the long run, it'll be hard for players to dominate like Jaedong and Flash is doing right now. SC1 progamers' greatest advantage right now is their 'hands' but as time passes i think those aspects will become weaker (i know this kind of contradicts with his earlier statement but thats what the article says). However, when it comes to results, i think those who were good at SC1 will continue to do well in SC2. I just dont think the gap between the players will be as large. Q- Do you think Tester will be 'the' obstacle in your challenge for the GSL? A- I dont really think of him as the obstacle. I'll just try my best to enjoy the game as much as i can before beginning my military service. I prefer to see myself as a PCbang gosu then a progamer (laughter). Q- What is your target for the upcoming GSL? A- I think losing in the qualifying rounds will really be bad. If i can get through that unscathed, i think i will do well. My main target is to enjoy the league but i also want to play in a broadcasted match. Right now my ambition for the GSL means i dont want to show all my cards on internet broadcasts. There is a burden of expectation but i really think i can show something great in the GSL. if some of the sentences will feel disjointed, its because i translated too literally. my apologies for that but my korean is very rusty | ||
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AraqirG
United States266 Posts
On August 24 2010 02:53 teamsolid wrote: So.. the best Korean zerg in the world (Cool), the best European zerg (Dimaga) and the best American (Idra) all think Zerg is broken (along with tons of others). But Blizzard is still pointing at the Korean ladder.. "oh look they're doing fine". Do you really have to shit up every thread with balance discussion. Can't we keep this discussion to the topic at hand? On topic: I really hope Team Liquid still can practice with them. They would be extremely valuable as practice partners. | ||
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Qwerty.
United States292 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
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Qwerty.
United States292 Posts
On August 24 2010 03:29 zoLo wrote: Before I clicked on the thread, I thought the title said they quit SC2 on the sidebar. I really want to know the reason why they left because to play more freely is vague. Because they're retired BW pros in their late 20s about to go to the military and in their last days as progamers they want to enjoy their time as much as they can without enduring a 10-14 hour a day practice schedule. Makes sense? | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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mucker
United States1120 Posts
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HydroXy
United States513 Posts
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