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![[image loading]](http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2140/finall.png) 1st - MorroW - $5,000 2nd - IdrA - $2,500 3rd - DIMAGA - $1,400 4th - Tarson - $900 5th-8th - SarenS - $600 5th-8th - MaDFroG - $600 5th-8th - DeMusliM - $600 5th-8th - TheLittleOne - $600 9th-12th - LucifroN7 - $400 9th-12th - NaNiwa - $400 9th-12th - Artosis - $400 9th-12th - White-Ra - $400 13th-16th - Strelok - $300 13th-16th - HasuObs - $300 13th-16th - HuK - $300 13th-16th - ClouD - $300
Poll: Whos play impressed you the most?DIMAGA (219) 36% MorroW (190) 31% IdrA (132) 22% SarenS (28) 5% Tarson (21) 3% TheLittleOne (9) 1% MaDFroG (4) 1% DeMusliM (3) 0% 606 total votes Your vote: Whos play impressed you the most? (Vote): MorroW
(Vote): IdrA
(Vote): DIMAGA
(Vote): Tarson
(Vote): SarenS
(Vote): MaDFroG
(Vote): TheLittleOne
(Vote): DeMusliM
Poll: Whos play disappointed you the most?White-Ra (271) 59% HuK (107) 23% Artosis (27) 6% Other (24) 5% ClouD (10) 2% LucifroN (9) 2% Strelok (4) 1% NaNiwa (3) 1% HasuObs (2) 0% 457 total votes Your vote: Whos play disappointed you the most? (Vote): ClouD
(Vote): HuK
(Vote): HasuObs
(Vote): Strelok
(Vote): White-Ra
(Vote): Artosis
(Vote): NaNiwa
(Vote): LucifroN
(Vote): Other
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Congrats morrow! Really impressed.  (inbefore hate I guess...)
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Yes I enjoyed the entire top 4s play, even with a mistakes some of them made, was very exciting to watch.
Was expecting more from the protoss players though, poor Huk. 
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I loved DIMAGA's game vs Tarson! Really impressed.
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Congrats morrow~ even though I think they should nerf terran a lil bit, you still did a wonderful job 
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It was a great series, the best was the quarterfinals and Dimaga is such s great sport / player
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Morrow, swedens superhero!
Hoping for a really strong swedish team when SC2 Nations Cup starts.
Hayder, Jinro, MorroW, MadFrog,Naniwa (ofc theres more good players)
Looking good!
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whitera and huk were supposed to carry the protoss hope. it's very disappointing that they couldn't play to their true potential, and i think the tournament was the lesser for it. it would have been awesome to see some bo5 TvP or ZvP.
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Dimaga is such a wonderful player to watch. His enthusiasm and good cheer is fantastic. I gained a lot of respect for him after watching this tournament.
Can we get a picture of his smile somewhere in here?
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Good series, nice to see this for SC2 so early and this much support out side of Korea. GG MorroW...
I really think he out played everyone and I hope no one comes in talking about the standard Terran is OP and thats why he won bs.
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Morrow disappointed me in the finals.
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It was a great series, the best was the quarterfinals and Dimaga is such s great sport / player
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Morrow disappointed me in the finals.
Yeah, winning first place convincingly is such a letdown.
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On August 23 2010 00:48 Slow Motion wrote:
whitera and huk were supposed to carry the protoss hope. it's very disappointing that they couldn't play to their true potential, and i think the tournament was the lesser for it. it would have been awesome to see some bo5 TvP or ZvP.
yea i agree that they where the only huge protoss players in attendance and we all should hope for swift recovery and future pwnage from both these players
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No offense to Dimaga, but he reminds me of Kane from the Command and Conquer series, whenever he smiles, I feel he is plotting world domination :< But he plays really well, hope he doesn't give up on zerg! Congrats to MorroW, what a cinderella story, from being a late addition to champion!
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Idra losing game 1 was retarded because he pumped drones instead of roaches. You don't actually need roach speed to make roaches
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On August 23 2010 00:54 Argolis wrote:Yeah, winning first place convincingly is such a letdown.
No, but the fact he used reapers every game (except last) and even trying to all-in is disappointing
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Loving the lack of protosses being able to win anything
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On August 23 2010 00:55 KuroN3ko wrote:
No offense to Dimaga, but he reminds me of Kane from the Command and Conquer series, whenever he smiles, I feel he is plotting world domination :< But he plays really well, hope he doesn't give up on zerg! Congrats to MorroW, what a cinderella story, from being a late addition to champion!
Haha, lol. <3 Red Alert 1. DIMAGA is awesome.
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On August 23 2010 00:54 Argolis wrote:Yeah, winning first place convincingly is such a letdown.
It's the way he played.
Morrow, I am disappoint.
Grats to the winner though^^ I loved TLO's facial expressions after game 3 vs NaDa
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Why can't we vote for MorroW being the most disappointing for taking a final series over a better player with reaper abuse? Nothing is as disappointing as seeing a stronger player lose because of an opening which MorroW admittedly says is imba, but uses repeatedly to win because he knows he would lose without it.
Oh yeah and he denied ZvT scouting in the last game, epic skills, bravo.
Morrow for most disappointing option please.
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On August 23 2010 00:58 AyJay wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 00:54 Argolis wrote:Morrow disappointed me in the finals. Yeah, winning first place convincingly is such a letdown. No, but the fact he used reapers every game (except last) and even trying to all-in is disappointing
His usual tactic that he have been using in tournaments with FE didn't work. He used it three times and lost. He then tried to go into a longer macro game against Dimaga. It didn't work. What exactly would you have done?
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On August 23 2010 01:02 epicfailswede wrote:
Why can't we vote for MorroW being the most disappointing for taking a final series over a better player with reaper abuse? Nothing is as disappointing as seeing a stronger player lose because of an opening which MorroW admittedly says is imba, but uses repeatedly to win because he knows he would lose without it.
Oh yeah and he denied ZvT scouting in the last game, epic skills, bravo.
Morrow for most disappointing option please.
Once again, what the hell would you have done? Lost thousands of dollars just so you can get credit for not using reapers?
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On August 23 2010 00:48 Slow Motion wrote:
whitera and huk were supposed to carry the protoss hope. it's very disappointing that they couldn't play to their true potential, and i think the tournament was the lesser for it. it would have been awesome to see some bo5 TvP or ZvP.
I agree very much with this post, hopefully they will play better in the future.
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On August 23 2010 01:02 epicfailswede wrote:
Why can't we vote for MorroW being the most disappointing for taking a final series over a better player with reaper abuse? Nothing is as disappointing as seeing a stronger player lose because of an opening which MorroW admittedly says is imba, but uses repeatedly to win because he knows he would lose without it.
Oh yeah and he denied ZvT scouting in the last game, epic skills, bravo.
Morrow for most disappointing option please.
although yourself, MorroW, and I agree that mass reapers early on is incredibly difficult to deal with and probably imbalanced, who gives a fuck in a high stakes tournament where the difference between winning and losing is $2,500!
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Huge grats to you Morrow, so glad you got to participate and prove you are worthy of a spot!
Hope you had a good time and make sure to savor all the tears streaming down the crybabies' cheeks. Oh, and of course the well earned 50 000 kronor!
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On August 23 2010 01:18 Inori wrote:+ Show Spoiler +5 Terrans, 3 Zerg, 0 Protoss. All Protoss were eliminated by Terrans.
PvT is obviously fine, right. Grats to Morrow I guess. A win is a win I guess.
You can't just say PvT is broken because players played bad.
HuK and white-ra were big let downs.
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MorroW did great. He would have been dumb if he didn't use the units working best against zerg just because they might be over powered.
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first congrats to morrow, i think he played well through the whole tournament beating some realy good players!!
second for all morrow haters, hate the game not the player, and if you cant see that he played good ,imba build or not the guys has proved himself to be a good player through the whole trouney,if you cant see that,then you are just blinded by hatred.
But we all know that dimaga is the real winner! i mea he semed happier then the 1 st adn 2nd place players, AMAEZING GUY!MAD PROPS TO HIM! AND TARSON FOR BEEING SO MANNERED!
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Disappointed in the Protoss players at this tournament. Very disappointed.
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On August 23 2010 01:02 epicfailswede wrote:
Why can't we vote for MorroW being the most disappointing for taking a final series over a better player with reaper abuse? Nothing is as disappointing as seeing a stronger player lose because of an opening which MorroW admittedly says is imba, but uses repeatedly to win because he knows he would lose without it.
Oh yeah and he denied ZvT scouting in the last game, epic skills, bravo.
Morrow for most disappointing option please.
Right, because it's his fault the game is "imbalanced" and he used it to win himself some money.
I'm glad Dimaga lost the game where he killed all of Lucifron's workers...it was the kick he needed to play a little more standard . He impressed me the most and I also liked how happy he was all the time lol.
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Disappointed that you can make a command center during what should be an all in strat.
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UPDATE: I have secured both GamesCom 2010 winners Stefan "MorroW" Andersson and Marcel "k1llsen" Paul to come on today's "Weapon of Choice" and "Live On Three" to give two live post-event interviews and give their immediate afterthoughts. MorroW joins "Weapon of Choice" to discuss his last-minute entrance into GamesCom to begin with, the many cries of 'imbalance' for Terran in StarCraft 2, and how he was able to take out the machine that is Greg "IdrA" Fields in the finals. k1llsen will join "Live On Three" to dive into his first major international LAN victory, how it felt to play and win in front of his home crowd, and the difficulties in taking down last year's Season 4 champion, Shane "rapha" Hendrixson.
Tune into both shows back-to-back with Weapon of Choice at 2 PM EST/20:00 CET and Live On Three at 4 PM EST/22:00 CET at http://www.djWHEAT.tv - Shows start in 1 hour 20 minutes from this posting.
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On August 23 2010 01:09 getSome[703] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 00:48 Slow Motion wrote:
whitera and huk were supposed to carry the protoss hope. it's very disappointing that they couldn't play to their true potential, and i think the tournament was the lesser for it. it would have been awesome to see some bo5 TvP or ZvP. I agree very much with this post, hopefully they will play better in the future.
I haven't seen WhiteRa play a decent game in forever. I seriously think he is one of the most overrated players.
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Sorry if it's a teensy bit off-topic, but where can I find vods for this tourney?
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On August 23 2010 01:05 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 01:02 epicfailswede wrote:
Why can't we vote for MorroW being the most disappointing for taking a final series over a better player with reaper abuse? Nothing is as disappointing as seeing a stronger player lose because of an opening which MorroW admittedly says is imba, but uses repeatedly to win because he knows he would lose without it.
Oh yeah and he denied ZvT scouting in the last game, epic skills, bravo.
Morrow for most disappointing option please. Once again, what the hell would you have done? Lost thousands of dollars just so you can get credit for not using reapers?
In my opinion, winning by cheese is worse than losing with style.
User was warned for this post
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Congratulations MorroW, impressive tournament from him! Also IdrA and Dimaga delivered such a strong Zerg play play.
Was a really nice Start of SC2 in the IEM and i hope the next one will be even better!
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props to brad for the awesome live threads
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On August 23 2010 01:53 KingRajesh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 01:05 nam nam wrote:On August 23 2010 01:02 epicfailswede wrote:
Why can't we vote for MorroW being the most disappointing for taking a final series over a better player with reaper abuse? Nothing is as disappointing as seeing a stronger player lose because of an opening which MorroW admittedly says is imba, but uses repeatedly to win because he knows he would lose without it.
Oh yeah and he denied ZvT scouting in the last game, epic skills, bravo.
Morrow for most disappointing option please. Once again, what the hell would you have done? Lost thousands of dollars just so you can get credit for not using reapers? In my opinion, winning by cheese is worse than losing with style.
This kind of opinion is those shared by people who don't understand how competition in general works. People play to win, even in inconsequential endeavors, and when money is involved, they DEFINITELY play to win. Playing to appease some sort of arbitrary constraints you have on "proper play" just makes you a loser.
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On August 23 2010 00:48 Slow Motion wrote:
whitera and huk were supposed to carry the protoss hope. it's very disappointing that they couldn't play to their true potential, and i think the tournament was the lesser for it. it would have been awesome to see some bo5 TvP or ZvP.
This exactly, I was getting tired of TvT/ZvT. Needed some Protoss action.
Congrats Morrow, certainly well deserved.
Thanks for a great tournament.
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Such a thrilling tournament, I really enjoyed watching all of it and it got me super pumped up for Major League Gaming in Raleigh.
I recorded some casts of 15 games from this tournament, I'll link them here in spoilers.
+ Show Spoiler [Casts from IEM!] +TLO vs. ClouD entire series: TLO vs. WhiteRa entire series: TLO vs. MaDFroG entire series: IdrA vs. Naniwa entire series: IdrA vs. Strelok entire series: TLO vs. MorroW, one game: IdrA vs. Sarens, one game: Tarson vs. MaDFroG, one game: DIMAGA vs. DeMusliM, one game (banelingasm):
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I am disappointed in Morrow not because he won using a set of strategies that exemplify the problem with TvZ. I am disappointed because it was a terrible show. I did not see creativity, or gosu skill. I did not get excited. I woke up for nothing. I woke up to see the ugliest Starcraft 2 I've seen in a tournament of this caliber.
All of Dimaga's games impressed me, and I can give Morrow credit for that win. It was well earned and exciting. But Morrow's TvZ in the finals was not fun to watch. For that, I am disappointed. I am also disappointed that instead of sticking to his own style, he just resorted to the most insipid play for 2.5k dollars. I know that is a lot of money, but was it worth it to be a terrible showman and to basically admit "I am a worse player than you Idra, so I am going to abuse the things that make Terran so much more powerful than Zerg."
He even admitted that after he won vs. Dimaga. Honestly, take the win. I don't care, I'm not a fan anymore.
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On August 23 2010 01:02 epicfailswede wrote:
Why can't we vote for MorroW being the most disappointing for taking a final series over a better player with reaper abuse? Nothing is as disappointing as seeing a stronger player lose because of an opening which MorroW admittedly says is imba, but uses repeatedly to win because he knows he would lose without it.
Oh yeah and he denied ZvT scouting in the last game, epic skills, bravo.
Morrow for most disappointing option please.
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Seriously though, I really think there are few people who would do anything differently in MorroWs situation. He found a good strategy, albeit he even himself said it was imbalanced, and why would he abandon it in the biggest SC2 pricepool tournament to date? It's like finding out muta-stacking (not exactly, but please bear with me for the sake of the example) and then not use it because people might find it overpowered. Hate the game, not the player.
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On August 23 2010 01:54 boesthius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 01:54 choboPEon wrote:
props to brad for the awesome live threads yeah seriously, these LR thread were fucking amazing. superb quality, amazing banners/picture. good job, man.
On August 23 2010 01:54 choboPEon wrote:
props to brad for the awesome live threads
ESPORTS! But really, thanks. Just trying to do my part.
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Congratulations MorroW, really great play.
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I enjoyed watching Dimaga vs. Tarson as he got put into a lot of the same positions that he got put into against Morrow and lost, but against Tarson he made better decisions in very similar situations and turned it into a win.
Have nothing against Morrow. It was a tournament and he played to win, which meant finding the most effective build and then performing it well. The neverending balance argument will continue (personally, I find TvZ to be fucking ridiculous after watching those games), but the fact is that Morrow capitalized on Idra's mistakes and performed his build well.
In the game on Desert Oasis I really wanted to see Idra burrow some banelings on his side of the hedge next to his third, since he knew a bio army would walk across it. Taking that expo instead of the gold (or rather, not taking it and the gold since Morrow took his gold) didn't make much sense and building his ultra cavern there instead of his main or nat was a bit of a mistake.
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Despite a protossless final 8, it was still a cool tournament. Congratz to MorroW and Idra. And great casting by Apollo and Day[9]
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On August 23 2010 00:50 AyJay wrote:
Morrow disappointed me in the finals.
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Congrats to Morrow! I hate reapers, but can't blame him for using them when there's 5000$ on the line.
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Great series, although I still wish IdrA won.
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Morrow disappointed me in the finals aswell. I seriously thought he could beat Idra without such a one-base build in every game, but since its a tournament and winning is the goal, you gotta do what you have to do to win.
White-Ra's drop was a huge surprise.
Gg's Idra & Dimaga.
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I guess this shows how much work SC2 still needs in terms of tweaks and ballance. The truth is the game it not nearly as cheese/all in proof as it should be to be truly competitive.
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3 brood war terrans in top 4! Congrats Morrow on your 5k.
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On August 23 2010 02:11 Grettin wrote:Morrow disappointed me in the finals aswell. I seriously thought he could beat Idra without such a one-base build in every game, but since its a tournament and winning is the goal, you gotta do what you have to do to win. White-Ra's drop was a huge surprise. Gg's Idra & Dimaga.
I'm not disappointed in MorroW at all. It's EXACTLY what I expected of him. He also didn't lose any of my respect, because he never had any of it from the start. Seriously the finals were super bad, and not just because of MorroW. It's that Dimaga and Tarson put on such a show in those 2 epic game 4's that those games completely out shined every other RO-X. They are the true winners here.
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TaKe was freaking awesome and Brad did epic jobs with the live threads(loved all those lol troll pics he used ^^)
Amazing event, looking forward to next time, hopefully with less "OMG imbalance whine(yeah not gonna happen)" and more Protoss that don't disapoint
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I didnt like the reaper style of Morrow. But I would've to call Morrow names, if he didnt use reapers, which seemed to work very well, when his other strategy failed, just for the sake of "not using reapers".
But it wasn't very fun to watch. A friend of mine and me watched the games and "ooh... reapers again. Gonna go getting something to drink". And then those SCVs allins... meh. Yeah sure, with that much money at stake I'd do the same thing but wasnt fun to watch in my opinion.
For me Dimaga was the most likable person in the final four. He seemed way happier than Idra/Morrow even though he "only" got 3rd. And he didnt have this "awkward aura" around him. Big props to him, he now has a new fan
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the best part was the look on morrows face when he was walking out with those two hotties.
But seriously, if the next patch nerfs 5-rax reaper in any way, i consider morrow an abuser, although a very talented abuser.
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I feel bad for BratOk now that MorroW won.
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I'm excited to see Artosis's inevitable interview with IdrA.
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Dear everyone.
I am disappoint.
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Can someone please tell me how I can watch these games now?
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Did everyone hating on Morrow actually see game 3?!?!?! Idra stopped mass reapers dead in its tracks and lost to a straight up macro game. Take the blinders off and get off the sinking bandwagon.
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On August 23 2010 02:33 cAPS wrote:
I'm excited to see Artosis's inevitable interview with IdrA.
Me too, especially since the post game interview with IdrA surprisingly didn't involve IdrA being allowed to say something.
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On August 23 2010 01:50 junemermaid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 01:09 getSome[703] wrote:On August 23 2010 00:48 Slow Motion wrote:
whitera and huk were supposed to carry the protoss hope. it's very disappointing that they couldn't play to their true potential, and i think the tournament was the lesser for it. it would have been awesome to see some bo5 TvP or ZvP. I agree very much with this post, hopefully they will play better in the future. I haven't seen WhiteRa play a decent game in forever. I seriously think he is one of the most overrated players.
http://sc2ranks.com/eu/383164/DuckloadRa
#2 Europe
#8 World
I would not call him overrated. He is still one of the best. He did not live up to the expectation in cologne tho :/
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whitera this summer had to practice for:
college exams
WCG Ukraine in SCBW.
He'll be back np.
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On August 23 2010 02:57 Sfydjklm wrote:
whitera this summer had to practice for:
college exams
WCG Ukraine in SCBW.
He'll be back np.
i hope so, he is my nr 1 protoss
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On August 23 2010 02:57 Sfydjklm wrote:
whitera this summer had to practice for:
college exams
WCG Ukraine in SCBW.
He'll be back np.
Yeah no doubt, wishing for him to do better in the future. He's such a cool guy!
But man, Dimaga stole everyones heart I think haha, seeing him appearing on stage with the flag around him was just so great xD
Edit: I just had to include this
![[image loading]](http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8656/57253662.jpg)
+ Show Spoiler +
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I need to see these vods, sounds like crazy games
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On August 23 2010 01:59 Eldest wrote:
A bit off-topic, but anyone know what headphones those ladies are wearing?
But great Series. Exciting games. A bit bummed IdrA wasn't able to pull it off but he put on a good show. GG!
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I think idrA is better than Morrow but Morrow still played really well.
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i think it was unfair that morrow got that blonde chick. idras wasnt really pretty
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sarens impressed me the most, by far. he seems incredibly good and he'll probably one of the top terrans as soon as reaper nerfs start incoming.
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even tho , best gamers for me are Idra and Dimaga .
Idra deserved to win whole thing.
to bad ;/
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On August 23 2010 01:53 KingRajesh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 01:05 nam nam wrote:On August 23 2010 01:02 epicfailswede wrote:
Why can't we vote for MorroW being the most disappointing for taking a final series over a better player with reaper abuse? Nothing is as disappointing as seeing a stronger player lose because of an opening which MorroW admittedly says is imba, but uses repeatedly to win because he knows he would lose without it.
Oh yeah and he denied ZvT scouting in the last game, epic skills, bravo.
Morrow for most disappointing option please. Once again, what the hell would you have done? Lost thousands of dollars just so you can get credit for not using reapers? In my opinion, winning by cheese is worse than losing with style. User was warned for this post
Why the hell was he warned for this? First of all, he clearly stated that it was his opinion (and a completely valid one at that, considering the popularity of TLO), and he didn't even directly disparage any players directly.
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On August 23 2010 01:58 blacktoss wrote:
I am disappointed in Morrow not because he won using a set of strategies that exemplify the problem with TvZ. I am disappointed because it was a terrible show. I did not see creativity, or gosu skill. I did not get excited. I woke up for nothing. I woke up to see the ugliest Starcraft 2 I've seen in a tournament of this caliber.
All of Dimaga's games impressed me, and I can give Morrow credit for that win. It was well earned and exciting. But Morrow's TvZ in the finals was not fun to watch. For that, I am disappointed. I am also disappointed that instead of sticking to his own style, he just resorted to the most insipid play for 2.5k dollars. I know that is a lot of money, but was it worth it to be a terrible showman and to basically admit "I am a worse player than you Idra, so I am going to abuse the things that make Terran so much more powerful than Zerg."
He even admitted that after he won vs. Dimaga. Honestly, take the win. I don't care, I'm not a fan anymore.
that is one of the best things about starcraft imo. To come up with strategies and builds that can crush you're opponents playstyle or game plan. Without that this would just be a dumb game with the best multitasker winning. Although i havn't watched this series yet it sounds like Morrow was one of the smartest players.
Wtf is up with those girls, the pic is rofl but they arn't being very professional.
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On August 23 2010 02:33 cAPS wrote:
I'm excited to see Artosis's inevitable interview with IdrA.
You took the words out of my mouth, cant wait!
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Hey, I just came back from the GC.
The finals were pretty cute games, especially Tarson vs Dimaga. Though that disc screwed it a little bit up, because I think Tarson might had a little chance to win this game but well. LAN modus asap plz, thx!
Well, in the finals Morrow was simply a little bit stronger than Idra imo. I think Idra wasn't in a good shape today. He lost an overlord just for nothing in the beginning. T imba? And well, Day9 and the other caster ( dApollo ?) were entertaining too, but TaKeSeN's questions were just delicious.
Oh, and DIMAGA is such a cool and nice guy, how you cannot love him? lol
PS: Who were the guys who made these fanpapers and were hunting the players for autographs lol. I also made a groupphoto of you with DIMAGA for you.
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On August 23 2010 04:08 Tonkerchen wrote:Hey, I just came back from the GC. The finals were pretty cute games, especially Tarson vs Dimaga. Though that disc screwed it a little bit up, because I think Tarson might had a little chance to win this game but well. LAN modus asap plz, thx! Well, in the finals Morrow was simply a little bit stronger than Idra imo. I think Idra wasn't in a good shape today. He lost an overlord just for nothing in the beginning. T imba? And well, Day9 and the other caster ( dApollo ?) were entertaining too, but TaKeSeN's questions were just delicious. Oh, and DIMAGA is such a cool and nice guy, how you cannot love him? lol PS: Who were the guys who made these fanpapers and were hunting the players for autographs lol. I also made a groupphoto of you with DIMAGA for you.
Sounds like you had a great time.
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Voted Dimaga on 1st, since I was already expecting Morrow in top2 ^^
And HuK on 2nd poll
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I was there yesterday and the semi-final Morrow/Dimaga was awesome. So many people, awesome games, great atmosphere.
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i dont think i ever wanna watch another tvz again
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On August 23 2010 04:51 illumination wrote:
i dont think i ever wanna watch another tvz again
hahahah this is how i felt after watching the last (i think) GOMtv final. Never wanted to see another PvP in my life, but now i miss PvP soo much TT_TT
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On August 23 2010 01:53 KingRajesh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 01:05 nam nam wrote:On August 23 2010 01:02 epicfailswede wrote:
Why can't we vote for MorroW being the most disappointing for taking a final series over a better player with reaper abuse? Nothing is as disappointing as seeing a stronger player lose because of an opening which MorroW admittedly says is imba, but uses repeatedly to win because he knows he would lose without it.
Oh yeah and he denied ZvT scouting in the last game, epic skills, bravo.
Morrow for most disappointing option please. Once again, what the hell would you have done? Lost thousands of dollars just so you can get credit for not using reapers? In my opinion, winning by cheese is worse than losing with style. User was warned for this post
oh really?
so u would throw away 2500$?
dont be silly, he did what was necessary to take the money home
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Disappointing.
He bunker rushed and reaper massed his way to the win.
What made me the most mad however, was when I saw him building a command center, after what should have been an all-in strat.
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God I cant wait for the Artosis interview!!
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On August 23 2010 05:04 ~Matthias wrote:
Disappointing.
He bunker rushed and reaper massed his way to the win.
What made me the most mad however, was when I saw him building a command center, after what should have been an all-in strat.
I don't remember a single game where he bunker rushed. I remember seeing most of the other terrans at the tournament doing so though. Not that there is nothing wrong with bunker rushes.
On August 23 2010 02:11 Grettin wrote:Morrow disappointed me in the finals aswell. I seriously thought he could beat Idra without such a one-base build in every game, but since its a tournament and winning is the goal, you gotta do what you have to do to win. White-Ra's drop was a huge surprise. Gg's Idra & Dimaga.
He used a one base build in one out of the five games in the final. Even if he had used a one base build in every game, how is that wrong? Is everything that doesn't include a fast expansion cheese? no rush 15 min? Almost none of MorroWs games were all ins. Almost all of them had a mid/late game plan unlike many of DeMuslims games.
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Great tournament, didn't like the way morrow played the final tho, gj Dimaga/Sarens who were impressive during this whole tournament, congratz to Morrow. For sure the best player at this event was Idra. Reapers really not that balanced atm.
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Great tournament, I enjoyed very much.
I liked Day9 and Dapollo cast. They improved very much along the course of the event.They just needed to get used to each others pace.
What I liked the most was Tarson and Dimaga's attitude at the end of bronze finals. Their hug was epic. Pure sportsmanship.
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On August 23 2010 05:07 DrainX wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 05:04 ~Matthias wrote:
Disappointing.
He bunker rushed and reaper massed his way to the win.
What made me the most mad however, was when I saw him building a command center, after what should have been an all-in strat. I don't remember a single game where he bunker rushed. I remember seeing most of the other terrans at the tournament doing so though. Not that there is nothing wrong with bunker rushes.
Go watch the Morrow Artosis games.
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On August 23 2010 05:17 ~Matthias wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 05:07 DrainX wrote:On August 23 2010 05:04 ~Matthias wrote:
Disappointing.
He bunker rushed and reaper massed his way to the win.
What made me the most mad however, was when I saw him building a command center, after what should have been an all-in strat. I don't remember a single game where he bunker rushed. I remember seeing most of the other terrans at the tournament doing so though. Not that there is nothing wrong with bunker rushes. Go watch the Morrow Artosis games.
Still. Why are you directing your hate against MorroW when every terran in the tournament used reapers vs zerg and most of them used offensive bunkers in some game? Just because he actually managed to win vs TLO, DIMAGA and Idra when no one else did?
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A really well organized event ! I really liked the quake live games . SC2 lets just say that our "progamers" still need to learn more about the game .
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On August 23 2010 05:35 raga4ka wrote:
A really well organized event ! I really liked the quake live games . SC2 lets just say that our "progamers" still need to learn more about the game .
Perhaps you can teach them?
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On August 23 2010 05:37 AyJay wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 05:35 raga4ka wrote:
A really well organized event ! I really liked the quake live games . SC2 lets just say that our "progamers" still need to learn more about the game . Perhaps you can teach them?
Pretty sure he didn't say he was better??
It's cool to attack someone for no reason though.
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On August 23 2010 05:35 raga4ka wrote:
A really well organized event ! I really liked the quake live games . SC2 lets just say that our "progamers" still need to learn more about the game .
Really? what makes you think they got something to learn, what things could they have changed.
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On August 23 2010 04:08 Tonkerchen wrote:
Hey, I just came back from the GC.
The finals were pretty cute games, especially Tarson vs Dimaga. Though that disc screwed it a little bit up, because I think Tarson might had a little chance to win this game but well. LAN modus asap plz, thx!
The game crashed... Even lan cant save a crashing computer. A saving function would be good.
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This thread spoiled me I thought it would be for finals and there might be vod links.
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Does this mean Terran is ... jk gratz MorroW
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Some of you really need to stop crying about morrow. He has 5000 from that, and you have 0. If you can do a knockout, no reason to grind out a 5 round fight.
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Morrow played very well.
After reading all the Bullshit, seeing the bans, closed threads... etc...
...I was sure his play was awful. But it wasn't.
It wasn't it was very good, and very stable, and very deadly. In the short term, its bad for IdrA. But I think we should sort of be thankful for being able to see what Terran can implement (as far as Harass, and Expanding, and Macro) when its done correctly.
Nice Reaper-Troll btw! LMFAO
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On August 23 2010 05:57 JudoChopper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 05:35 raga4ka wrote:
A really well organized event ! I really liked the quake live games . SC2 lets just say that our "progamers" still need to learn more about the game . Really? what makes you think they got something to learn, what things could they have changed.
This game has been out for a very little time and we players clearly haven't seen every tricks and things to come. Of course this game is going to evolve as a game as Broodwar did. Some interesting finds from the game can change the game forever (Well unless Blizzard comes and fixes everything :p) Like mutalisk stack, irradiate trick etc.
Learning more about the game in general doesn't always mean that your micro/macro/things are bad and you need to learn more those, but finding and mastering stuff, inventing new super builds and tricks (like fazing with Vrays) and so on.
But on the topic. Gamescom Sc2 tournament was very entertaining to watch Didn't expect Morrow to win all and big names like White-Ra to drop out from playoffs
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i loved the games. its really cool to see we can get a hype of sc2 just like we did in sc1. was great!
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http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9092028
If you skip to 19:00, MorroW tells us that he only learned about the reaper build after he came over to IEM from Dimaga and Demuslim and practiced it for a few hours. I'm pretty shocked that he was able to win 3-1 over Idra who practices 12 hrs/day in Korea just trying to defend against that build. I really appreciate his honesty though, where even he says the build is pretty imbalanced and expects it to be patched soon. Grats to MorroW.
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On August 23 2010 02:57 Sfydjklm wrote:
whitera this summer had to practice for:
college exams
WCG Ukraine in SCBW.
He'll be back np.
Was not aware he was still playing brood war. I haven't really followed the BW scene this year.
He seems very inconsistent with his play style. When hes on, I enjoy watching his protoss. But when hes off, hes missing pylons, mis-microing his void rays, sloppy micro, sloppy macro. Hes like the Dr. Jekyl / Mr. Hyde of SC2.
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On August 23 2010 05:58 Dekker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 04:08 Tonkerchen wrote:
Hey, I just came back from the GC.
The finals were pretty cute games, especially Tarson vs Dimaga. Though that disc screwed it a little bit up, because I think Tarson might had a little chance to win this game but well. LAN modus asap plz, thx!
The game crashed... Even lan cant save a crashing computer. A saving function would be good.
Oh ok, thought it was a disc because the disc screen apeared for a little while. Well, that's really annoying though.
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This thread is obvious flamebait. >:[
On August 23 2010 03:48 Alphaes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 01:53 KingRajesh wrote:On August 23 2010 01:05 nam nam wrote:On August 23 2010 01:02 epicfailswede wrote:
Why can't we vote for MorroW being the most disappointing for taking a final series over a better player with reaper abuse? Nothing is as disappointing as seeing a stronger player lose because of an opening which MorroW admittedly says is imba, but uses repeatedly to win because he knows he would lose without it.
Oh yeah and he denied ZvT scouting in the last game, epic skills, bravo.
Morrow for most disappointing option please. Once again, what the hell would you have done? Lost thousands of dollars just so you can get credit for not using reapers? In my opinion, winning by cheese is worse than losing with style. User was warned for this post Why the hell was he warned for this? First of all, he clearly stated that it was his opinion (and a completely valid one at that, considering the popularity of TLO), and he didn't even directly disparage any players directly.
Probably because he misapplied the term "cheese", which like "troll" and "metagame" is being taken increasingly seriously on these forums. And because even though he didn't refer to anybody by name, you don't even need to have seen the games to know who he's talking about. And because having an opinion and stating that it's your opinion is no defense for stupidity.
Just my opinion.
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On August 23 2010 06:31 teamsolid wrote:http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9092028If you skip to 19:00, MorroW tells us that he only learned about the reaper build after he came over to IEM from Dimaga and Demuslim and practiced it for a few hours. I'm pretty shocked that he was able to win 3-1 over Idra who practices 12 hrs/day in Korea just trying to defend against that build. I really appreciate his honesty though, where even he says the build is pretty imbalanced and expects it to be patched soon. Grats to MorroW.
I don't necessarily think Reapers in specific need any sort of patching, moreso as Zerg needs a little boost in the Early Game.
'Grats to MorroW! Sick seeing you gaining momentum since TSL.
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I loved Morrow's style. When I first saw it I thought Morrow was insane. His play was so suffocating and intense thus entertaining. It was exciting to see how the zerg can stop morrow or how much damage morrow can inflict. The strategy might seem imbalanced but the zergs have won games vs it and we haven't seen how Koreans deal with it yet.
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Since Reapers outrange and are faster than all units available to Zerg in the early game they will become even more deadly over time.
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Other players used reapers with mixed success, but have to give Morrow props for destroying Idra with them. He kept the heat on and forced errors (terrible push against Morrow's bunkers on blistering sands, macro slipping) that aren't typical from Idra. enjoyed dimaga's play a ton as well, but glad we didn't see ZvZ finals
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Wheres ret in the disappoint poll? Good games all around.
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people voting for morrow, yes he played well but wasn't nearly as impressive as dimaga in my opinion
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