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Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 908

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dapanman
Profile Joined September 2010
United States316 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18141
I wish I lived in the world that Tyler lives in.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14131 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18142
Tyler is representing this sad image I'm getting of the old gaurd vs the professional new sence of esports.

Its true that everyone hast to grow up and we can't be the old community (that I'd have to say I've never been apart of but I've heard so much about) and that everyone needs to grow up. Tyler's going to hang on to it I'm afraid and everyone else is going to do the same thing.


God how the hell is tasteless still around?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18143
On May 04 2011 14:19 drox22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 14:14 Jotoco wrote:
On May 04 2011 14:03 Elefanto wrote:
No that's not.
If the opponent goes for a risky economy build, and you go for a safe build, he should be ahead.
If he goes for a risky economy build, and you go for a risky aggressive build, he died and you are ahead / win.

That's how it should be.



Nope.

If he does a risky/all in build and you SCOUT IT IN TIME, you should be ahead. If EVERY TIME I go for a risky/ all in and my opponent goes eco I am ahead, then it is a coin flip and there is no need to play the game, we always could just flip coins and award the money.

Like Rock/Paper/Scissors. It is perfectly balanced, but there is NO WAY it can be a competitive sport, because there is no skill involved. You choose a "weapon" and the you either win or lose. If it happened in SC2 (you choose a build and either win or lose there) then it is no point to play!

On May 04 2011 14:04 drox22 wrote:
How is a build that automatically let's you hold off any sort of all in and still keeps you on a even level economically fair? That would completely break the game. You can't die early game, you don't fall behind in economy either if your opponent fast expands? How can you lose then?


NO, that is NOT the ideal solution. The ideal solution is 2: A way to scout and respond correctly. But either of the two answers provide a balanced game.

Their approach is different, 1 (having a build that CAN defend anything) assumes the difference in outcomes comes from MICRO, NOT BUILD ORDER WIN.
2 (having scouting possible) assumes good scouting and a good reaction time will get you safe.

BOTH will have a balanced game as an outcome, but you people don't really want to use your brains to think about it.


If there were a way to always scout all ins what would be the point of taking a risk in the first place? It would completely nullify all ins but all ins are part of the game, get used to it.



Nope, because even scouted it takes WAY more effort to defend, than to execute an All in.

You have an advantage, but you don't "auto-win". It is NOT Rock against Scissors. It is a fight that anyone can win, you took a risk and hope it pays. For it NOT to pay your opponent needs to scout perfectly, react quickly AND perfectly and then micro better than you. If it was not like this all games would be all ins......
Eviltoast
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia166 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18144
INcontroL final thought: DO YOU FUCKING LIKE STRIDE GUM
it's copacetic... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18145
This State of the Game has been fucking awesome lol, love all the controversy and good discussion.
http://www.starcraftdream.com
MintBerryCrunch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States73 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18146
Wowowow. Stog is wild and controversial tonight.
Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18147
JP should be more active about directing the debate, all he does is sits there and lets them talk, not a good approach.
Vundox
Profile Joined March 2011
United States182 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18148
can we just hear tasteless' sexy voice?
implying Suzy isn't perfect
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18149
I think this is real awkward for Tasteless and Machine.
Suryp
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18150
Tyler... you're wrong. Sleep on it.
Man.Magic
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 05:24:51
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18151
Are you chewing Stride gum motherf@cker? - Jeff

I just want mom and dad to stop fighting. - Nick

Best State of the Game yet.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18152
TLDR: Tyler is upset due to EG having innocent negligence. Nothing bad was meant to happen, and just like accidentally injuring someone, people should just move on.
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18153
Poor Tasteless.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18154
JP looks uncomfortable, Tasteless looks something between uncomfortable and bored.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18155
Tyler...c'mon, bro. I'm embarrassed for TL right now.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
postlapsaria
Profile Joined April 2011
United States137 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18156
hahaha oh nick
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 05:25:06
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18157
by that logic of keyboards, no one can ever give opinions whenever someone asks in that section what computer components to get, cause no one has gotten EVERY SINGLE computer component in the world. and thus, u can't give a complete opinion on it, and everyone should never post a reply ever.
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18158
Tastleless comment summed this up.
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18159
JP should stop this as the host. This has gone pretty kindagarden tonight.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Duoma
Profile Joined March 2011
United States396 Posts
May 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18160
Bias goes in, posts come out!

Can't explain that.
"I have stared a horse in the eyes.... there is only black... only darkness..."
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