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Hasse
Sweden579 Posts
On April 27 2011 16:06 MrSexington wrote: JP's Twitter: itmeJP JP McDaniel State of the Game EP36 VOD is live http://itmejp.blip.tv/file/5073898/ -- mp3 is converting and will be up in about 1h30m 13 minutes ago thank you! | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
I know how gretorp is feeling, I'm really not a naive person, but sometime with friends I just don't detect a sarcasm, this is a specialty of mine :D | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On April 27 2011 15:53 Tablespoon wrote: Holy shit almost 3 hours... Thanks anyway! thank you! | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On April 27 2011 16:26 MrCon wrote: Just started listening, the bunker segment is hilarious. Starting with sarcasm that goes undetected, hilarity ensue, then the bunker bank <3 I know how gretorp is feeling, I'm really not a naive person, but sometime with friends I just don't detect a sarcasm, this is a specialty of mine :D I think Gretorp suffers from earnest-hardworking-yet-naive-Filipino-guy syndrome. I know this not because I'm Filipino, but most of my friends are and they're the nicest race of people on the planet. It's not racist if you like a race, right? | ||
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JamesNK
New Zealand6 Posts
JP at the start of the show you look silly sitting there while the intro-music is playing. Either leave the logo up or bop your head along to the music (preferred) | ||
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
Liquid'Tyler's metrics: Play 6 hours a day, while doing your own thing (full-time job, etc). after 6 months if you're not like top 50, you should really really consider not making the jump to pro. I wonder if he meant top 50 in a master division or top 50 grandmasters? Seems pretty hard if its top 50 grandmasters, even artosis isn't even in grandmasters. Seems to fly against a lot of what Korean pros say, where they say that sheer hard work is all is needed to become a pro gamer. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10854 Posts
Your exact rating doesn't even matter, as you will run into "known" opponents when your MMR is really high. If you do good/ok against them, then you might could consider it. | ||
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
but he said, if you cant make it to top 50 GM in 6 months on only 6 hours of practice a day, you shouldnt go pro. | ||
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busbarn
Sweden984 Posts
http://blip.tv/file/get/ItmeJP-Starcraft2StateOfTheGameEP36216.mp3 | ||
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mandigal
Germany231 Posts
There are thousands of Korean Broodwar gamers who play all day and train like crazy but when it really counts Flash, Jaedong, Bisu and Stork seem to be a level above everyone else. So there has to be sth. that sets them apart from the rest. | ||
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RainWhisper
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
A brand new player, from bronze to top50 grandmaster in 6months on 6 hours a day? Thats the talent you need or don't consider going pro? That would be an eye opener. Brand new player, bronze to top 50 in master division, 6 hours 6 month? Thats a little more believable. I'm just curious, did he mean top 50 GM or top 50 masters?? Players that come to mind that are more work than talent are players like Nada, a golden mouse winner, and Idra. But that is completely unrelated to the discussion. Since tyler did mention there are those 1% who just work enough to succeed. and again it seems contradictory to what korean pros say, who say given enough hard work, anyone can be a pro. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
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sickoota
Canada918 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On April 27 2011 17:15 sickoota wrote: Gretorp's explanation for why he thought TvP is difficult for T sounded very strange to me. He can't win unless he hardcounters his opponent's unit composition? And that somehow makes T underpowered? It sounds like something idra would say at his worst - just blindly assuming your race takes more skill. I'm sure any toss player would say the exact same about toss. Look at something like Tyler vs Thorzain on xel naga - Tyler made the wrong units and the battle looked like a joke. Thats where starcraft 2 is at right now for any race, I don't see why only Terran has the burden of countering their opponent or how that makes them the worst race. I think what Gretorp was trying to express was that Terrans have to compose their armies exceptionally well to hard counter their opponent; TvP in particular. Now, I think the Zerg have to do this against Toss as well, but the Zerg can, theoretically, switch tech much more easily. The unit and building cost for Terran is a much bigger investment than Zerg, and less forgiving. However, I don't necessarily agree that this argument makes Terrans 'the weakest'. | ||
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dementrio
678 Posts
what can we, as laymen strategists, do when we hit that point? I'll take zvp as an example simply because that's what I am personally having trouble with. I have got to a point where my mechanics are not the problem, and improving them won't stop me from losing more than I am winning. I have tried copying various builds, styles, and I have tried coming up with my own; none have worked, which is to be expected because if I could beat zvp I'd probably be rich by now. The ladder is also an environment that makes all this more frustrating, because if there is one huge hole in my game that I want to fix, I want to concentrate on that, but I have to deal with other matchups in between and even when I get queued up against a protoss I often lose to something that I would normally not have any trouble with, because I am focussing on one aspect of the matchup and losing track of other things. I get the overall impression that I am getting worse instead of making progress. In short, starcraft is not fun for me anymore  am I the only one feeling this way? What can I do to fix it? | ||
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
On April 27 2011 17:12 GhostFall wrote: A brand new player, from bronze to top50 grandmaster in 6months on 6 hours a day? Thats the talent you need or don't consider going pro? That would be an eye opener. Brand new player, bronze to top 50 in master division, 6 hours 6 month? Thats a little more believable. I would be surprised if any of today's pros were ever unintentionally in Bronze league. You can go straight into at least Gold/Platinum on zero competitive RTS experience. | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
On April 27 2011 16:41 JamesNK wrote: Feedback: JP at the start of the show you look silly sitting there while the intro-music is playing. Either leave the logo up or bop your head along to the music (preferred) LOL yes! Great suggestion  | ||
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scatmango2
United States408 Posts
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sickoota
Canada918 Posts
On April 27 2011 17:22 Defacer wrote: I think what Gretorp was trying to express was that Terrans have to compose their armies exceptionally well to hard counter their opponent; TvP in particular. Now, I think the Zerg have to do this against Toss as well, but the Zerg can, theoretically, switch tech much more easily. The unit and building cost for Terran is a much bigger investment than Zerg, and less forgiving. However, I don't necessarily agree that this argument makes Terrans 'the weakest'. I don't see why this is true for Terran and Zerg but not for Protoss... if a Protoss goes into a battle with the wrong units they will die. This is not a uniquely terran or zerg problem. | ||
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