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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 06 2011 05:31 GMT
#13721
On April 06 2011 14:08 Louky wrote:
All that talk about twinkies at the beginning of the cast...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

My god...
It's beautiful...

On April 06 2011 14:19 Zlasher wrote:
there'll be between 450 and 775 VODs from group stages alone

thats.....obscene...

I'm a bit worried about the sheer number of VODs available for the entire tournament, and possibly for all 3 seasons of the tournament. It's absolutely insane to completely follow, especially compared to other tournaments like GSL and others.

Then again, the more games, the better (possibly). The more games that are casted, the more likely an especially epic game will come out, which is especially good for casual audiences who thrive off of watching the occasional epic Clide vs Leenock VOD instead of every match of GSL live.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
April 06 2011 05:35 GMT
#13722
Time needs to be refined once NASL starts.
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 05:36:55
April 06 2011 05:35 GMT
#13723
I'm disappointed, was expecting some decent balance discussions, but they didn't take idra too seriously and trolled.
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
April 06 2011 05:38 GMT
#13724
On April 06 2011 14:35 ilbh wrote:
I'm disappointed, was expecting some decent balance discussions, but they didn't take idra too seriously and trolled.


Yeah, I really wish they would have gone more into that balance talk. Idra definitely has some good points and I feel like more real discussion could have been productive.
Otherwise, awesome show.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
April 06 2011 05:38 GMT
#13725
On April 06 2011 14:35 ilbh wrote:
I'm disappointed, was expecting some decent balance discussions, but they didn't take idra too seriously and trolled.

day9 typically just leaves anything balance related to Blizzard and just takes the game as is and only focuses on that.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 06 2011 05:38 GMT
#13726
On April 06 2011 14:35 ilbh wrote:
I'm disappointed, was expecting some decent balance discussions, but they didn't take idra too seriously and trolled.

We don't think the game is imbalanced. I don't think we saw a way to make a productive discussion out of it so we just kinda avoided it...
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
April 06 2011 05:40 GMT
#13727
On April 06 2011 14:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 14:35 ilbh wrote:
I'm disappointed, was expecting some decent balance discussions, but they didn't take idra too seriously and trolled.

We don't think the game is imbalanced. I don't think we saw a way to make a productive discussion out of it so we just kinda avoided it...


by we you mean not idra
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LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
April 06 2011 05:40 GMT
#13728
thx for the show worth staying up for gn8.
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
April 06 2011 05:40 GMT
#13729
On April 06 2011 14:35 ilbh wrote:
I'm disappointed, was expecting some decent balance discussions, but they didn't take idra too seriously and trolled.


Day9 is annoying when he says he cant take balance discussions seriously. I mean he doesnt play the game nearly as much as the other players yet he immediately dismisses Idras claims of imbalance.

I am pretty sure Idra is more of an expert of sc2's state of balance since he plays sooooooooooo much, yet day 9 wont even take him serious and just instead says "im gunna have to resort to trolling any balance discussion"
Creep
Profile Joined September 2010
United States229 Posts
April 06 2011 05:40 GMT
#13730
This SOTG was a lot funnier than I thought it would be without Geoff.

Especially with the Zerg UP talk by IdrA.
t3tsubo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada682 Posts
April 06 2011 05:40 GMT
#13731
ah so that post was the TAKATAKATAKA at the end of the podcast.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
April 06 2011 05:41 GMT
#13732
Nobody tried to argue why idra is wrong though, he just got

"well fruit won a gsl 5 months ago...."

"Morrow and Dimaga are doing okay I guess.."
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 05:45:32
April 06 2011 05:41 GMT
#13733
I feel the same way as Idra about the early game volatility being a huge problem for zerg. I feel like many more bo3/bo5 series happen where zergs die to a stupid cheese or timing attack then in tvp.

Also, Day9s style of play is a ton of fun. In ZvP lately I almost always go ling/upgrades, blings situationally, mass expand, and shoot for a broodlord/infestor/ling mineral dump army in late game. It's a blast to play and very effective at a fairly high masters level of play. Definitely am not sure at all if it has any real high level potential, but for the vast majority of players that mostly ladder for fun it's a great style.
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zergporn
Profile Joined April 2010
Estonia156 Posts
April 06 2011 05:42 GMT
#13734
idra said some really good words towards the end
the game changes as you get higher
Nivyan
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark42 Posts
April 06 2011 05:42 GMT
#13735
funny show, kinda bullshit no one too idrA seriously
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
April 06 2011 05:43 GMT
#13736
On April 06 2011 14:31 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 14:08 Louky wrote:
All that talk about twinkies at the beginning of the cast...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

My god...
It's beautiful...

Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 14:19 Zlasher wrote:
there'll be between 450 and 775 VODs from group stages alone

thats.....obscene...

I'm a bit worried about the sheer number of VODs available for the entire tournament, and possibly for all 3 seasons of the tournament. It's absolutely insane to completely follow, especially compared to other tournaments like GSL and others.

Then again, the more games, the better (possibly). The more games that are casted, the more likely an especially epic game will come out, which is especially good for casual audiences who thrive off of watching the occasional epic Clide vs Leenock VOD instead of every match of GSL live.

That's why things like SC Center will be super clutch. You'll get to know the next day what matches were 'can't miss' or at least worth watching. There will be plenty of places to clue us in on what's important I think.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
Bru
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden184 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 05:44:16
April 06 2011 05:43 GMT
#13737
Think it werent discussed enogh how bad the open bracket / seed part of mlg is really unfair specially over a 3 day competition.

Also idra brought up some really really good points.



adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
April 06 2011 05:43 GMT
#13738
People don't realize theirs a smaller sample size of Zerg players, especially at the pro-level
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
odder
Profile Joined April 2010
United States405 Posts
April 06 2011 05:44 GMT
#13739
I think one of the great things about the show is that it is very light on the balance discussions, which I prefer honestly.
Theo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States151 Posts
April 06 2011 05:45 GMT
#13740
Balance is such a touchy subject. You really need to preplan the discussion and back it up with some statistics.

It's wrong of IdrA to blindly call out imbalance and it's wrong of day9 to laugh at him for bringing it up.
For SotG it's best to avoid it unless you plan to discuss it in depth.
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