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On March 13 2011 13:25 Consolidate wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 13:21 RogerChillingworth wrote:On March 13 2011 13:18 Consolidate wrote:On March 13 2011 13:05 RogerChillingworth wrote:On March 13 2011 12:00 MrSexington wrote:On March 13 2011 10:18 hugman wrote: I think this whole thread should be nuked and locked. Everyone would be better off if the people posting stupid shit here had nowhere to express it, themselves included.
Discussing other people's opinions, like it's done here, is stupid. "Omg I can't believe Tyler thinks X is Y". If you disagree with something then discuss that topic, who said it doesn't fucking matter. Why do you listen to the show if not to hear the opinions of people on the show? If you don't want to hear them then don't listen, if you don't agree with them then don't frame the discussion around the people who stated the opinion. If you think iNcontrol is wrong about Huk's PvZ sentry push then discuss that strat, don't discuss iNcontrol.
The people jerking off to the podcast should stop posting too btw. It's just a podcast, but some people seem like freaking religious fanatics or something. Get perspective. (Stop clicking on threads that get you so upset.)  Man, don't you get it? hugman actually makes a really valid point. A) people shouldn't be so hung up on this in the first place. They should go read a book or, at the very least, concentrate on themselves. Losing your cookies in a forum thread is unproductive and a complete waste of time. B) If you happen to have a complaint about something, address the issue at hand--don't attack the people behind the opinion. If you're going to tune in, do it for enjoyment. It's like complaining that a Two-and-a-half men isn't funny. (Just don't watch the fucking show.) Stop clicking on threads that get you upset? That's precisely his point. LOL. Jesus =\ I'm going to continue this infinite loop and offer you the same advice. I think I'd be a happy man if just 10% of TL posters had a brain stem. It'd really be fantastic. Everyone just wants to be heard - don't act as if you're above it all, Mr. Counter-Counter-Counter-Reactionary. This stuff is getting too real for me. Someone's going to write a book on this, and that book is going to be made into a movie. We should get Charlie Sheen on the phone. Working title could be "Reception".
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On March 13 2011 14:08 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 13:25 Consolidate wrote:On March 13 2011 13:21 RogerChillingworth wrote:On March 13 2011 13:18 Consolidate wrote:On March 13 2011 13:05 RogerChillingworth wrote:On March 13 2011 12:00 MrSexington wrote:On March 13 2011 10:18 hugman wrote: I think this whole thread should be nuked and locked. Everyone would be better off if the people posting stupid shit here had nowhere to express it, themselves included.
Discussing other people's opinions, like it's done here, is stupid. "Omg I can't believe Tyler thinks X is Y". If you disagree with something then discuss that topic, who said it doesn't fucking matter. Why do you listen to the show if not to hear the opinions of people on the show? If you don't want to hear them then don't listen, if you don't agree with them then don't frame the discussion around the people who stated the opinion. If you think iNcontrol is wrong about Huk's PvZ sentry push then discuss that strat, don't discuss iNcontrol.
The people jerking off to the podcast should stop posting too btw. It's just a podcast, but some people seem like freaking religious fanatics or something. Get perspective. (Stop clicking on threads that get you so upset.)  Man, don't you get it? hugman actually makes a really valid point. A) people shouldn't be so hung up on this in the first place. They should go read a book or, at the very least, concentrate on themselves. Losing your cookies in a forum thread is unproductive and a complete waste of time. B) If you happen to have a complaint about something, address the issue at hand--don't attack the people behind the opinion. If you're going to tune in, do it for enjoyment. It's like complaining that a Two-and-a-half men isn't funny. (Just don't watch the fucking show.) Stop clicking on threads that get you upset? That's precisely his point. LOL. Jesus =\ I'm going to continue this infinite loop and offer you the same advice. I think I'd be a happy man if just 10% of TL posters had a brain stem. It'd really be fantastic. Everyone just wants to be heard - don't act as if you're above it all, Mr. Counter-Counter-Counter-Reactionary. This stuff is getting too real for me. Someone's going to write a book on this, and that book is going to be made into a movie. We should get Charlie Sheen on the phone. Working title could be "Reception".
That's right JP, we're officially complaining about complaining about complaining. Maybe Hugman does have a point and we should fall on our swords right now.
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So much hostility just watch the podcast, and whether you like it or not I think everybody is free to express their opinions on the topics at hand, just as the members of State of the Game do themselves.
The key here is to be level headed and respectful when doing so, which people on both sides (pro SotG and anti SotG) don't always do. Whenever you hear or read something that really pisses you off or whatever, take a few minutes and think about legitimate reasons why and post them, rather then just have a shit throwing fest that literally accomplishes nothing and just pisses everybody off.
On March 13 2011 14:42 Sylvr wrote: We must remember that the people that listen to the podcast and come here to complain are a vast vast minority. There are probably several hundreds of people that listen to the podcast and check this thread, but never say anything. On top of that, there are likely thousands that listen to the podcast who don't come to this thread at all.
When you think of it that way, it really makes the whole situation quite comical- that all the drama in this thread should be fueled and perpetuated by such a tiny tiny portion of the fan-base.
It's just the nature of the internet that the more populated a forum gets, the more it becomes dominated by a very polarized vocal minority.
Also, this is very true. Just quoted for more recognition =)
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We must remember that the people that listen to the podcast and come here to complain are a vast vast minority. There are probably several hundreds of people that listen to the podcast and check this thread, but never say anything. On top of that, there are likely thousands that listen to the podcast who don't come to this thread at all.
When you think of it that way, it really makes the whole situation quite comical- that all the drama in this thread should be fueled and perpetuated by such a tiny tiny portion of the fan-base.
It's just the nature of the internet that the more populated a forum gets, the more it becomes dominated by a very polarized vocal minority.
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i listen to every show and have liked them all!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3<3<3
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Hey guys, will the PAX sotg be uploaded? Crossing my fingers here
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On March 13 2011 22:32 busbarn wrote:Hey guys, will the PAX sotg be uploaded? Crossing my fingers here  Came here to check this.
Also, just want to say thanks to everyone involved with State of the Game. It's always fun to listen to and I'll never make a angry post about it.
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Great show love any and all controversy and keep the opinions open and honest fuck the haters!
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On March 13 2011 22:32 busbarn wrote:Hey guys, will the PAX sotg be uploaded? Crossing my fingers here  This, I want to see someone call iNcontroL a dork.
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On March 13 2011 14:42 Sylvr wrote: We must remember that the people that listen to the podcast and come here to complain are a vast vast minority.
It's just the nature of the internet that the more populated a forum gets, the more it becomes dominated by a very polarized vocal minority. Just wanted to quote this for clarity.
SotG is one of my favorite things to tune in to weekly, and im sure many people share the same opinion.
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On March 14 2011 06:31 ptrpb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 22:32 busbarn wrote:Hey guys, will the PAX sotg be uploaded? Crossing my fingers here  This, I want to see someone call iNcontroL a dork.
yes it could be entertaining
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Crap I totally forgot about PAX!
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On March 14 2011 02:47 GeeseHoward wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 22:32 busbarn wrote:Hey guys, will the PAX sotg be uploaded? Crossing my fingers here  Came here to check this. Also, just want to say thanks to everyone involved with State of the Game. It's always fun to listen to and I'll never make a angry post about it.
I also came here to check on that. Hoping for it soon.
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there was a pax sotg? sweeeeeeeet
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well i just trolled Geoff (kind of) Asked him if he was Whipping his hair Back and forth @ Pax East. Hopefully the crowd got a laugh out of it lol.
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yeah they planned on doing one there, i assume they went ahead with it, looks like it isnt up yet though?
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They did do it, there's a video of Day9 doing his "impressions" on Youtube and his Daily thread
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On March 10 2011 13:26 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 12:07 Canucklehead wrote:On March 10 2011 12:00 DystopiaX wrote:On March 10 2011 11:51 Consolidate wrote: Artosis was the highlight of the show by far despite not saying a single word.
SoTG has been getting pretty dull recently. I'm really starting to get tired of all the discussion involving tournament logistics and formats. I realize that JP and Geoff are into that sort of thing, but there are probably more interesting things to talk about.
All I got from the GSL talk was that Huk has bad builds, July is bad but got lucky because Nada is worse, and Nony isn't impressed with any of the protosses including MC.
To hear Tyler be so dismissive about the GSL players sounds strange because I feel like Nony is coasting hard on the goodwill of his past SC1 accomplishments. People forget that he is probably the weakest of all the Liquid players.
Have Day9 back on ASAP- the positive energy of the show is severely lacking without him. Have to disagree about Tyler. He's had decent success in MLGs, sure he hasn't won but against the competition he's no slouch either. HuK looked really weak in code A, I'm terrible but I could see the flaws in his play, and round by round you could see his opponents catching onto what he did, and from then on it looked like they had no trouble countering it. . Tyler is what you call a theory crafter. Watches games and talks shit about others players when he can't apply all the things he criticizes in his own games so never wins tourneys. There was that old thread with tyler watching huk's stream and criticizing him like mad while watching. He got on huk's case about using 1 pylon to power all his gates which I agree is bad, but then at assembly, tyler did the same damn thing in one his games. So he doesn't practice what he preaches. Then he talks shit about the koreans play at iem when tyler could only dream of being as good as them. I'm so hoping strelock demolishes tyler at tsl 3. He's by far my least favourite liquid player. I consider him as bm as idra. is this irony or are you really being serious? you are doing to me exactly what i do to the players haha. i've already put my knowledge into practice in sc1. everyone had access to all the broadcasts of pro games. i privately studied them and critiqued them the same way i did the IEM reps on my stream. then i practiced a shitload and put my knowledge into play. then i became the best non-korean sc player in the world. "he doesn't practice what he preaches" means you don't believe in the advice you're giving. it doesn't mean you have knowledge but not the ability to use it. if you want to critique my sc2 career, there's honestly only one way to do it: i dont practice enough. i lack discipline. i've said many times that i dont practice in custom games. all of the custom games in my match history are from tournaments. so if you take 60 seconds to look up all my accounts on sc2ranks (NA, EU and KR), you'll find i've played just a bit over 700 ladder games, and that's all the games i've played. i dont even 2v2/3v3/4v4 at all. and a large chunk of those games aren't real practice. i brush up for a tournament and then get out of shape. then i gotta take 30-50 games to brush up again. it's honestly fucking pathetic. and i know the obvious response to all this is "either start practicing and prove that you're so good or shut up." yeah, well, i havent been saying that im a better player. i might say that i know better. hell, even then, im not that strong about it. i often say things like "it seems to me" or "it feels like" or "i wish i could see them do this other thing and see if it would have been better" or "i didnt really like that, i'd rather try this other way first." and when i do have a strong opinion, i can say from experience that 99% of the time, if the player was sitting next to me, he'd agree with me. so i dont really feel the need to shut up. i have useful things toi say! but anyway, yeah, bottom line is you gotta demonstrate your knowledge. there's no way around it. and not just in custom and ladder games that no one sees, or even in small tournaments. you gotta do it at big fucking tournaments. and you cant rely on having demonstrated it in SC1, hoping that everyone will just take your word for it that you're not feeding them bullshit about SC2. no way that would ever fly. OH WAIT!! Day[9]. mind fucking blown
I love this post.
Hope you find the motivation in the future to play sc2, not to shut up the haters, but to give us amazing games to watch.
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Can some1 tell me on which exact date Geoff tried that ZvP build?
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I just wanted to make a quick post to thank JP,and Co. for doing the fucking awesome state of the game at PAX. Love you guys!
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