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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
November 23 2012 22:12 GMT
#51421
On November 23 2012 09:13 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 08:18 flodeskum wrote:
Will there be a show tonight?


Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 08:43 RifleCow wrote:
On November 23 2012 08:18 flodeskum wrote:
Will there be a show tonight?

I was wondering the same thing.


US Holiday of Thanksgiving, so probably no.

they said last week that they would do one despite.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9396 Posts
November 23 2012 22:22 GMT
#51422
On November 22 2012 01:58 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 01:34 Nausea wrote:
I never watched SotG for strategy talk and such, watched it for entertainment and seeing the pro gamers personalities and seeing them hang out together. If i wanna watch serious discussion you already have inside the game.


You can't be serious...

Here's how Inside the Game usually goes:

Wheat: "What's up bitches?"
Incontrol: "That guy called me bad, so I called him fat."
IdrA: "Xy (insert one of the ~500 people who are currently better than him) is vastly overrated."

Great discussion, really illuminating...


Hah, almost true.
FakeLife
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
November 23 2012 22:52 GMT
#51423
On November 22 2012 01:58 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 01:34 Nausea wrote:
I never watched SotG for strategy talk and such, watched it for entertainment and seeing the pro gamers personalities and seeing them hang out together. If i wanna watch serious discussion you already have inside the game.


You can't be serious...

Here's how Inside the Game usually goes:

Wheat: "What's up bitches?"
Incontrol: "That guy called me bad, so I called him fat."
IdrA: "Xy (insert one of the ~500 people who are currently better than him) is vastly overrated."

Great discussion, really illuminating...


Not making a qualitative analysis on anything, but aren't you allowed to say that a person is overrated without being better than them? I mean, I can say that Derek Jeter is overrated without being a better baseball player than him, and nobody makes anything of it, right? Commentators and players do that all the time.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
November 23 2012 22:58 GMT
#51424
On November 24 2012 07:52 FakeLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 01:58 kafkaesque wrote:
On November 22 2012 01:34 Nausea wrote:
I never watched SotG for strategy talk and such, watched it for entertainment and seeing the pro gamers personalities and seeing them hang out together. If i wanna watch serious discussion you already have inside the game.


You can't be serious...

Here's how Inside the Game usually goes:

Wheat: "What's up bitches?"
Incontrol: "That guy called me bad, so I called him fat."
IdrA: "Xy (insert one of the ~500 people who are currently better than him) is vastly overrated."

Great discussion, really illuminating...


Not making a qualitative analysis on anything, but aren't you allowed to say that a person is overrated without being better than them? I mean, I can say that Derek Jeter is overrated without being a better baseball player than him, and nobody makes anything of it, right? Commentators and players do that all the time.

Ya, but it doesn't have the same irony as it does when Idra says it.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
November 23 2012 23:03 GMT
#51425
On November 24 2012 07:52 FakeLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 01:58 kafkaesque wrote:
On November 22 2012 01:34 Nausea wrote:
I never watched SotG for strategy talk and such, watched it for entertainment and seeing the pro gamers personalities and seeing them hang out together. If i wanna watch serious discussion you already have inside the game.


You can't be serious...

Here's how Inside the Game usually goes:

Wheat: "What's up bitches?"
Incontrol: "That guy called me bad, so I called him fat."
IdrA: "Xy (insert one of the ~500 people who are currently better than him) is vastly overrated."

Great discussion, really illuminating...


Not making a qualitative analysis on anything, but aren't you allowed to say that a person is overrated without being better than them? I mean, I can say that Derek Jeter is overrated without being a better baseball player than him, and nobody makes anything of it, right? Commentators and players do that all the time.

The difference is that you're not a pro player. Idra is saying one of his peers is overrated which speaks volumes about himself. You're just saying that player X is weaker than player Y. When a professional says another professional is overrated, it seems to imply that that professional is unimpressed by their peer's ability. If they are unimpressed, it stands to reason that they, someone with the same career, would be on par or better than that person. Idra tends to say everyone is garbage. Either he is also garbage or he thinks he's better (less garbage) than the person he flames. This is what earns him critiques, because he has flamed some very notable players.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
November 24 2012 00:59 GMT
#51426
On November 24 2012 08:03 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 07:52 FakeLife wrote:
On November 22 2012 01:58 kafkaesque wrote:
On November 22 2012 01:34 Nausea wrote:
I never watched SotG for strategy talk and such, watched it for entertainment and seeing the pro gamers personalities and seeing them hang out together. If i wanna watch serious discussion you already have inside the game.


You can't be serious...

Here's how Inside the Game usually goes:

Wheat: "What's up bitches?"
Incontrol: "That guy called me bad, so I called him fat."
IdrA: "Xy (insert one of the ~500 people who are currently better than him) is vastly overrated."

Great discussion, really illuminating...


Not making a qualitative analysis on anything, but aren't you allowed to say that a person is overrated without being better than them? I mean, I can say that Derek Jeter is overrated without being a better baseball player than him, and nobody makes anything of it, right? Commentators and players do that all the time.

The difference is that you're not a pro player. Idra is saying one of his peers is overrated which speaks volumes about himself. You're just saying that player X is weaker than player Y. When a professional says another professional is overrated, it seems to imply that that professional is unimpressed by their peer's ability. If they are unimpressed, it stands to reason that they, someone with the same career, would be on par or better than that person. Idra tends to say everyone is garbage. Either he is also garbage or he thinks he's better (less garbage) than the person he flames. This is what earns him critiques, because he has flamed some very notable players.

No, "X is overrated" tends to mean "X is overrated" no matter whose mouth it leaves. Saying someone receives more praise than his play deserves is not synynomous with saying you're better than him.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 24 2012 02:20 GMT
#51427
The thing is that he's tended to be right more often than not. Generally the sequence has gone: Idra makes a controversial prediction or statement -> it doesn't happen -> everyone LOLs -> it happens -> everyone has already forgotten.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
November 25 2012 15:07 GMT
#51428
I'm beginning to doubt that Artosis and Tyler will ever be on this show again...
"En taro adun, Executor."
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
November 25 2012 15:24 GMT
#51429
bring Major back <3 and keep up the good work.
"Right on" - Morrow
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 25 2012 15:30 GMT
#51430
On November 26 2012 00:07 Chriscras wrote:
I'm beginning to doubt that Artosis and Tyler will ever be on this show again...


Remember that Artosis was in Singapore casting the IEM World Finals. So there's no way he was ever going to be on, even if JP was still doing the Artosis/Day/Tyler/Geoff lineup.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
November 25 2012 15:41 GMT
#51431
--- Nuked ---
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
November 25 2012 15:44 GMT
#51432
Just watched ep76. QXC guessed the final four of GSL perfectly. Pretty awesome.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
November 25 2012 15:44 GMT
#51433
On November 24 2012 11:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
The thing is that he's tended to be right more often than not. Generally the sequence has gone: Idra makes a controversial prediction or statement -> it doesn't happen -> everyone LOLs -> it happens -> everyone has already forgotten.

I think that has less to do with Idra's ability to call out overrated players and more to do with confirmation bias. Every player in Sc2 has undergone a period of underperformance, more or less. If you wait long enough, there will be a series of games which could be construed to imply someone is overrated. It doesn't mean they were overrated when the words were first uttered, though.
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
November 25 2012 15:45 GMT
#51434
On November 26 2012 00:07 Chriscras wrote:
I'm beginning to doubt that Artosis and Tyler will ever be on this show again...


To be honest I wouldn't mind, I'm enjoying listening/watching the show more now than I have a long time. The new lineup have been great so far, especially Wolf.
stuff & things
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
November 25 2012 16:04 GMT
#51435
On November 24 2012 11:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
The thing is that he's tended to be right more often than not. Generally the sequence has gone: Idra makes a controversial prediction or statement -> it doesn't happen -> everyone LOLs -> it happens -> everyone has already forgotten.

Show me your statistical analysis of Idra's statements/predictions then.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 25 2012 17:41 GMT
#51436
On November 26 2012 01:04 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 11:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
The thing is that he's tended to be right more often than not. Generally the sequence has gone: Idra makes a controversial prediction or statement -> it doesn't happen -> everyone LOLs -> it happens -> everyone has already forgotten.

Show me your statistical analysis of Idra's statements/predictions then.


No. Do your own damn work.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
November 25 2012 23:29 GMT
#51437
On November 26 2012 02:41 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 01:04 gruff wrote:
On November 24 2012 11:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
The thing is that he's tended to be right more often than not. Generally the sequence has gone: Idra makes a controversial prediction or statement -> it doesn't happen -> everyone LOLs -> it happens -> everyone has already forgotten.

Show me your statistical analysis of Idra's statements/predictions then.


No. Do your own damn work.

Except the claim wasn't made by him...
RIP avilo, qxc keyboard 2013, RIP Nathanis keyboard 2014
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
November 26 2012 00:15 GMT
#51438
On November 24 2012 07:52 FakeLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 01:58 kafkaesque wrote:
On November 22 2012 01:34 Nausea wrote:
I never watched SotG for strategy talk and such, watched it for entertainment and seeing the pro gamers personalities and seeing them hang out together. If i wanna watch serious discussion you already have inside the game.


You can't be serious...

Here's how Inside the Game usually goes:

Wheat: "What's up bitches?"
Incontrol: "That guy called me bad, so I called him fat."
IdrA: "Xy (insert one of the ~500 people who are currently better than him) is vastly overrated."

Great discussion, really illuminating...


Not making a qualitative analysis on anything, but aren't you allowed to say that a person is overrated without being better than them? I mean, I can say that Derek Jeter is overrated without being a better baseball player than him, and nobody makes anything of it, right? Commentators and players do that all the time.


Except a lot of the times instead of saying "overrated" Idra just says "terrible"
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 26 2012 00:21 GMT
#51439
On November 26 2012 08:29 kckkryptonite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 02:41 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 26 2012 01:04 gruff wrote:
On November 24 2012 11:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
The thing is that he's tended to be right more often than not. Generally the sequence has gone: Idra makes a controversial prediction or statement -> it doesn't happen -> everyone LOLs -> it happens -> everyone has already forgotten.

Show me your statistical analysis of Idra's statements/predictions then.


No. Do your own damn work.

Except the claim wasn't made by him...


If he cares enough to want an analysis, then he's more than welcome to it.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
November 26 2012 01:17 GMT
#51440
On November 26 2012 09:21 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 08:29 kckkryptonite wrote:
On November 26 2012 02:41 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 26 2012 01:04 gruff wrote:
On November 24 2012 11:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
The thing is that he's tended to be right more often than not. Generally the sequence has gone: Idra makes a controversial prediction or statement -> it doesn't happen -> everyone LOLs -> it happens -> everyone has already forgotten.

Show me your statistical analysis of Idra's statements/predictions then.


No. Do your own damn work.

Except the claim wasn't made by him...


If he cares enough to want an analysis, then he's more than welcome to it.

sure, but it's your work since you brought it up. You're the one being lazy.
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