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Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
November 18 2010 02:36 GMT
#4841
i love these podcasts but i think some of these arguments about unrelated things like banshees vs dt's between two sides who refuse to agree on anything get very tiring to listen too. After about a half hour of that i was like "ok just move on"
Better than Pokebunny
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
November 18 2010 02:49 GMT
#4842
On November 18 2010 11:32 Mainland wrote:
I guess Geoff doesn't remember his comments about Select with live-on-3 guys after MLG Dallas.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10715149 around 19:25 for a refresher

umm, thats no Geoff, thats Machine, at least the one talking about his ZvT against SeleCT at MLG Dallas. Even so he didn't say anything bad about SeleCT either, he just said IdrA could have beat him with an earlier baneling nest, but he didn't.
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
November 18 2010 03:07 GMT
#4843
I personally didn't even think about the hizzing noise in the background and Painuser was FUCKING AMAZING as InControl would so nicely put it so that wasn't really a bother. Have him on more, every two weeks Artosis once him once or both at the same time sometimes when there are no additional guests =)
Meh
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
November 18 2010 03:11 GMT
#4844
I liked the setup xD

So what does IdrA think about _____?

Incontrol : hold on

*yells across room, "yo grack, they want to know ____"*

xD
Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
November 18 2010 05:31 GMT
#4845
Another really good episode. It was nice to hear the back and forth on the Terran/Protoss comparisons.
Xeteh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States589 Posts
November 18 2010 05:44 GMT
#4846
On November 18 2010 12:07 Yttrasil wrote:
I personally didn't even think about the hizzing noise in the background and Painuser was FUCKING AMAZING as InControl would so nicely put it so that wasn't really a bother. Have him on more, every two weeks Artosis once him once or both at the same time sometimes when there are no additional guests =)


Gonna agree on this. The static/feedback really wasn't an issue and Painuser did a fantastic job. Plus it'd be nice to have a Terran voice in there, I'm sure. But honestly as far as the podcast goes I'm good with the whole "the more the merrier" sort of thing.
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
November 18 2010 05:50 GMT
#4847
Those MU breakdown is really really nice i hope you'll keep it in, this is really interesting to hear
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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 06:05:34
November 18 2010 05:59 GMT
#4848
On November 18 2010 11:49 Terrakin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 11:32 Mainland wrote:
I guess Geoff doesn't remember his comments about Select with live-on-3 guys after MLG Dallas.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10715149 around 19:25 for a refresher

umm, thats no Geoff, thats Machine, at least the one talking about his ZvT against SeleCT at MLG Dallas. Even so he didn't say anything bad about SeleCT either, he just said IdrA could have beat him with an earlier baneling nest, but he didn't.


He meant 1:19:25, when he talks about IdrA's penis and SeleCT's butthole, etc.
cronican
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada424 Posts
November 18 2010 06:15 GMT
#4849
Loved painuser, If you guys ever need a terran voice I think he should be your go-to.
[cF]TridenT
Profile Joined August 2004
United States665 Posts
November 18 2010 06:31 GMT
#4850
Just want agree with the rest that Painuser is a boss.. Hung out with that guy a few months back.. Great guy in person and in this cast!
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shinwa
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden225 Posts
November 18 2010 07:16 GMT
#4851
I, like many others, just wanted to drop by and thank you for another great podcast! And Painuser was a baller, and I hope you really consider having him as a permanent guest/host.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 18 2010 07:20 GMT
#4852
On November 18 2010 15:15 cronican wrote:
Loved painuser, If you guys ever need a terran voice I think he should be your go-to.

yea he has a great personality. I love that this podcast is starting to get longer, i listen to it while laddering and since i dont focus on it 100% so i can listen to it at least 5-6 times before it gets repetitive/annoying :D
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 08:01:59
November 18 2010 07:54 GMT
#4853
On November 18 2010 06:09 Kazang wrote:
Geoff I think your a really great player and I really enjoyed watching your play in BW but you are being an ignorant dumbass when it comes to balance and how protoss is as a race. You're obviously a very smart guy that can play really smart strategies but your mindset about Protoss is going to stop you performing as well as you could.

If you are going into games with the same mindset you are showing in the cast, that protoss are so much weaker than the other races, then you are going to suck. It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, if you are thinking that you can't beat people becasue of the race you play then you are going to play worse than you would otherwise. It's coming out in your games too, you seem to be cheesing and going all-in in situations where you don't have to, as if you feel you can't win otherwise. Which sucks to see.

If you really think it's a weaker race just fucking switch man, it would be better than mentally cockblocking yourself. You said yourself your success in BW was reliant on what your opponents are capable of and exploiting those things, it's like you have totally forgotten about that part of the game and almost out-thinking yourself into a lose-lose situation.
I'm not saying your right or wrong in regards to any kind of balance issues, but you're just shooting yourself in the foot having it in your head that there are any at all. Similar to what has been said before about the internal monologue at tournaments "what if I win" and so on, It's the same thing.


I could be wrong on what your real mindset is but that is how it comes across in the podcast. And if that is the way you're thinking it is going to hurt your play regardless of what the real balance situation actually is.


I agree to a point, although i think InControL has the right mindset. I'd like to add that i found it funny how he skirted over the Korean race distribution, whether he actually didn't know or because they don't support his theory, but as of this week 35% of the korean top 200 is Protoss.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169660

I mean, granted only 2 of the top twenty are Toss, but it is also true that 10 of the top 20 are protoss as well.

/shrug
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
November 18 2010 08:00 GMT
#4854
To JP: How about releasing the podcasts as torrents as well in the future? Faster download for some and you can still see how many times the files has been downloaded.

Also can you get someone, perhaps the guy who did the intro and outro, to do vignettes for some of the sections to sort of give it a more structured feeling. (I can only really think of tournament updates, match-up discussion and questions from listeners, but it might be some more... shout-out time or something ^_^ )

And keep up the good work really enjoy listening to these casts while I'm working.
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
November 18 2010 08:02 GMT
#4855
On November 18 2010 06:09 Kazang wrote:
Geoff I think your a really great player and I really enjoyed watching your play in BW but you are being an ignorant dumbass when it comes to balance and how protoss is as a race. You're obviously a very smart guy that can play really smart strategies but your mindset about Protoss is going to stop you performing as well as you could.

If you are going into games with the same mindset you are showing in the cast, that protoss are so much weaker than the other races, then you are going to suck. It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, if you are thinking that you can't beat people becasue of the race you play then you are going to play worse than you would otherwise. It's coming out in your games too, you seem to be cheesing and going all-in in situations where you don't have to, as if you feel you can't win otherwise. Which sucks to see.

If you really think it's a weaker race just fucking switch man, it would be better than mentally cockblocking yourself. You said yourself your success in BW was reliant on what your opponents are capable of and exploiting those things, it's like you have totally forgotten about that part of the game and almost out-thinking yourself into a lose-lose situation.
I'm not saying your right or wrong in regards to any kind of balance issues, but you're just shooting yourself in the foot having it in your head that there are any at all. Similar to what has been said before about the internal monologue at tournaments "what if I win" and so on, It's the same thing.


I could be wrong on what your real mindset is but that is how it comes across in the podcast. And if that is the way you're thinking it is going to hurt your play regardless of what the real balance situation actually is.


What? IdrA dominated despite whining that Zerg sucked ass. I'm sure iNc can do the same. He won't pull a Dimaga.

Also I don't think you used the word "cockblock" correctly :|
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johngalt90
Profile Joined May 2010
United States357 Posts
November 18 2010 08:02 GMT
#4856
hey jp,
11.16 is one of the best podcasts yet. painuser was great he fits in the group well and terran personality is great. shout out to tyler and incontrol you guys are awesome.

teh fawke on incontrol walking on oregon state football?! crazy...

Mu discussion was great, discussions were great. i like this format rather than 2 hours of discussing MLG. I cast my vote for more of this.

InControl i would pay dollars if you commentated some tournaments, though i understand you'd rather play. i guess if your career fails you can cast and do community work... like artosis (jkjkjk).
keep it up good work
fuck the haters
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 08:33:35
November 18 2010 08:14 GMT
#4857
Anyone else find it funny how long they managed to talk about IrOn and oGsMC as two different players when its the same guy?

edit: MC is IrOn's initials, his name is Jang MinChul.
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Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
November 18 2010 08:26 GMT
#4858
After hearing about the TvP part in the podcast I really get the feeling that the european strats are very different from the NA TvP strats. Cant wait for dreamhack!
Always look on the bright side of life
numberThirtyOne
Profile Joined March 2008
United States294 Posts
November 18 2010 08:47 GMT
#4859
One of the best casts yet guys. ty ty ty! Painuser should go on the short short list of go to Terran guests. (still want Jinro back soon plz!)

I love the TvP debate and I hope it becomes a regular segment. Pick a matchup and discuss current tendancies, preferences, and if needed, imbalances. It's insightful coming from the caliber of players that it is, and when they get good naturedly heated up, it's hilarious. Get Artosis or Gracken next time and do PvZ. I know some people said that segment went too long, but I loved every minute. To be honest, I prefer discussion of the game (and it's state lol) than going over say a list of 32 players at an upcoming tournament. If any trimming is needed (and I'm not saying there is) those discussions could be a little more short and focused.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
November 18 2010 10:03 GMT
#4860
painuser and gretorp have been great for terran users on the podcast! it's interesting because anytime I hit a terran on the ladder they are more often than not pretty bm--yes I know its a generalization but it is something I notice far more often from t users (even in pvp it's not as bad and it's pvp!!)
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