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On June 20 2012 14:54 Shaddar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 14:52 Tachion wrote:On June 20 2012 14:46 avilo wrote:On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote:
but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? Btw, I never dodged your challenge. I also do believe I am a better player than you, as well as more qualified to talk about balance than you are. My WCS result over you already proves who is better, and I am willing to prove it again. I challenge you to a bo5, my conditions are that I play as Protoss and you play as Terran for the entire series. We each put up $50.00, and we both must stream the entire bo5. MLG 2012 map pool from most recent MLG. ...why don't you just play him as terran? Because Terran is UP duh
Kill 2 birds with one stone - brilliant! Prove ultra high skill by defeating one of the pillars of the Sc2 US and international scene in an offrace match AND make a point about balance!
Mob mentality much? Or rather the redditification of TL.
There is a reason Incontrol is where he is and Avilo is where he is now.
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On June 20 2012 14:59 KenZo- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 14:55 sevencck wrote:
Avilo, I dig your style man, and I'm not even kidding. But let them run their show the way they want to. Or at the very least give them enough time to prepare for you. I have to agree with you here, It is indeed their show, and they can and will run it the way they want to. But after some of the comments today, I feel like they went out of line, and should take Avilo up on his offer. If he has something to say about this.
if i have a fit on the forums and cause a scene, does that mean i get to come on the show? cuz i totally would. although, i wouldnt talk about about balance, id just be in a fit of fangirl-ism bc im in the same skype call as some of my favorite sc2 personalities on a live show. after reading some of Avilo's crazy comments/thoughts and watching that clip posted earlier, i feel im at least as qualified.
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On June 20 2012 15:01 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 14:54 Shaddar wrote:On June 20 2012 14:52 Tachion wrote:On June 20 2012 14:46 avilo wrote:On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote:
but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? Btw, I never dodged your challenge. I also do believe I am a better player than you, as well as more qualified to talk about balance than you are. My WCS result over you already proves who is better, and I am willing to prove it again. I challenge you to a bo5, my conditions are that I play as Protoss and you play as Terran for the entire series. We each put up $50.00, and we both must stream the entire bo5. MLG 2012 map pool from most recent MLG. ...why don't you just play him as terran? Because Terran is UP duh Kill 2 birds with one stone - brilliant! Prove ultra high skill by defeating one of the pillars of the Sc2 and international scene in an offrace match AND make a point about balance! Mob mentality much? Or rather the redditification of TL. There is a reason Incontrol is where he is and Avilo is where he is now.
Pretty much this.
It is also clever because inControl called avilos cards and he responded with a raise to put it in poker terms 
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On June 20 2012 14:52 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 14:46 avilo wrote:On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote:
but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? Btw, I never dodged your challenge. I also do believe I am a better player than you, as well as more qualified to talk about balance than you are. My WCS result over you already proves who is better, and I am willing to prove it again. I challenge you to a bo5, my conditions are that I play as Protoss and you play as Terran for the entire series. We each put up $50.00, and we both must stream the entire bo5. MLG 2012 map pool from most recent MLG. "hey guys, i wanna try and show the world that im not in fact scared of Incontrol or backing down. so instead of accepting his challenge and prove that my terran is in fact, better than his protoss, ill turn the tables and challenge him to an offrace!" yea... that will really show who is more skilled.... take your meds and go to bed dude... you're just making a fool of yourself.
In a question of who is more suitable for discussing balance, I think playing mirror off races is a brilliant idea.
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Avilo, if you think you are better then play him in a straight up match. This whole 'I'm not dodging, but we have to offrace' is fucking stupid and cowardly.
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While this is interesting I doubt we'll get a response soon, since avilo and Incontrol are both playing in the TSL qualifiers in less than 8 hours. So I'd guess they're sleeping.
On June 20 2012 15:06 CaptainCharisma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 14:52 cavalier117 wrote:On June 20 2012 14:46 avilo wrote:On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote:
but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? Btw, I never dodged your challenge. I also do believe I am a better player than you, as well as more qualified to talk about balance than you are. My WCS result over you already proves who is better, and I am willing to prove it again. I challenge you to a bo5, my conditions are that I play as Protoss and you play as Terran for the entire series. We each put up $50.00, and we both must stream the entire bo5. MLG 2012 map pool from most recent MLG. "hey guys, i wanna try and show the world that im not in fact scared of Incontrol or backing down. so instead of accepting his challenge and prove that my terran is in fact, better than his protoss, ill turn the tables and challenge him to an offrace!" yea... that will really show who is more skilled.... take your meds and go to bed dude... you're just making a fool of yourself. In a question of who is more suitable for discussing balance, I think playing mirror off races is a brilliant idea.
Normally ya but avilo offraces a LOT, I've never seen Incontrol offrace ever and if he does I'm guessing it's with zerg since that was his BW race.
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Jesus christ that video of Avilo talking about patch 1.4.3 is classic (http://www.twitch.tv/avilo/b/308157534 for anyone who missed it). And now he presents himself as a good person to talk about balance.
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On June 20 2012 15:06 CaptainCharisma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 14:52 cavalier117 wrote:On June 20 2012 14:46 avilo wrote:On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote:
but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? Btw, I never dodged your challenge. I also do believe I am a better player than you, as well as more qualified to talk about balance than you are. My WCS result over you already proves who is better, and I am willing to prove it again. I challenge you to a bo5, my conditions are that I play as Protoss and you play as Terran for the entire series. We each put up $50.00, and we both must stream the entire bo5. MLG 2012 map pool from most recent MLG. "hey guys, i wanna try and show the world that im not in fact scared of Incontrol or backing down. so instead of accepting his challenge and prove that my terran is in fact, better than his protoss, ill turn the tables and challenge him to an offrace!" yea... that will really show who is more skilled.... take your meds and go to bed dude... you're just making a fool of yourself. In a question of who is more suitable for discussing balance, I think playing mirror off races is a brilliant idea.
No, that is an absolutely terrible idea.
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On June 20 2012 15:07 RedMage wrote:
While this is interesting I doubt we'll get a response soon, since avilo and Incontrol are both playing in the TSL qualifiers in less than 8 hours. So I'd guess they're sleeping.
Hopefully they'll get matched up against each other.
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On June 20 2012 15:06 CaptainCharisma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 14:52 cavalier117 wrote:On June 20 2012 14:46 avilo wrote:On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote:
but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? Btw, I never dodged your challenge. I also do believe I am a better player than you, as well as more qualified to talk about balance than you are. My WCS result over you already proves who is better, and I am willing to prove it again. I challenge you to a bo5, my conditions are that I play as Protoss and you play as Terran for the entire series. We each put up $50.00, and we both must stream the entire bo5. MLG 2012 map pool from most recent MLG. "hey guys, i wanna try and show the world that im not in fact scared of Incontrol or backing down. so instead of accepting his challenge and prove that my terran is in fact, better than his protoss, ill turn the tables and challenge him to an offrace!" yea... that will really show who is more skilled.... take your meds and go to bed dude... you're just making a fool of yourself. In a question of who is more suitable for discussing balance, I think playing mirror off races is a brilliant idea.
I agree
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On June 20 2012 15:06 CaptainCharisma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 14:52 cavalier117 wrote:On June 20 2012 14:46 avilo wrote:On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote:
but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? Btw, I never dodged your challenge. I also do believe I am a better player than you, as well as more qualified to talk about balance than you are. My WCS result over you already proves who is better, and I am willing to prove it again. I challenge you to a bo5, my conditions are that I play as Protoss and you play as Terran for the entire series. We each put up $50.00, and we both must stream the entire bo5. MLG 2012 map pool from most recent MLG. "hey guys, i wanna try and show the world that im not in fact scared of Incontrol or backing down. so instead of accepting his challenge and prove that my terran is in fact, better than his protoss, ill turn the tables and challenge him to an offrace!" yea... that will really show who is more skilled.... take your meds and go to bed dude... you're just making a fool of yourself. In a question of who is more suitable for discussing balance, I think playing mirror off races is a brilliant idea.
bc Avilo, who wants to prove he can provide good commentary and discussion on Terran balance, wants to prove it, by winning a showmatch as protoss....riiiight
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On June 20 2012 15:02 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 14:59 KenZo- wrote:On June 20 2012 14:55 sevencck wrote:
Avilo, I dig your style man, and I'm not even kidding. But let them run their show the way they want to. Or at the very least give them enough time to prepare for you. I have to agree with you here, It is indeed their show, and they can and will run it the way they want to. But after some of the comments today, I feel like they went out of line, and should take Avilo up on his offer. If he has something to say about this. if i have a fit on the forums and cause a scene, does that mean i get to come on the show? cuz i totally would. although, i wouldnt talk about about balance, id just be in a fit of fangirl-ism bc im in the same skype call as some of my favorite sc2 personalities on a live show. after reading some of Avilo's crazy comments/thoughts and watching that clip posted earlier, i feel im at least as qualified.
No, but if the stream chat was constantly saying CALL CAVALIER for about five mintutes, you might have a basis for being allowed on the show.
Seriously, a 5 minute call with Avilo isn't too much to ask in that situation. Hell, he might even be able to bust most of the bullshit stereotypes that have been placed on him in that time, as well as bring actual balance discussion into a show which is sorely lacking.
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On June 20 2012 14:46 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote:
but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? Btw, I never dodged your challenge. I also do believe I am a better player than you, as well as more qualified to talk about balance than you are. My WCS result over you already proves who is better, and I am willing to prove it again. I challenge you to a bo5, my conditions are that I play as Protoss and you play as Terran for the entire series. We each put up $50.00, and we both must stream the entire bo5. MLG 2012 map pool from most recent MLG.
oh shit son get it on LOL
I wanna see main race vs main race though, reverse races for $ is silly.
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On June 20 2012 11:42 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 11:41 Dexington wrote:On June 20 2012 11:33 Shaddar wrote:On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote:
I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time.
Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it.
Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem? I don't see what qualifies you to be a Terran representative for talking balance Dude, he's on Team Legion. Any more explanation needed? Use stats. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1644_aviloLike his 30% winrate. Everything must look imbalanced to him.
Funny that you bring up his winrate, because that makes him seem like an okay pick.
Idra
Incontrol
Tyler
Funny how people throw around single, picked out percentages to make/'prove' their points
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On June 20 2012 15:13 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 14:46 avilo wrote:On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote:
but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? Btw, I never dodged your challenge. I also do believe I am a better player than you, as well as more qualified to talk about balance than you are. My WCS result over you already proves who is better, and I am willing to prove it again. I challenge you to a bo5, my conditions are that I play as Protoss and you play as Terran for the entire series. We each put up $50.00, and we both must stream the entire bo5. MLG 2012 map pool from most recent MLG. oh shit son get it on LOL I wanna see main race vs main race though, reverse races for $ is silly.
Heck, why not a BO5 main followed by a BO5 off race?
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On June 20 2012 12:06 sGSyntax wrote:
:3 Avilo. Revolutionary and I couldn't think of a better Terran perspective that I would actually love to hear instead of feeling insulted by an entire cast.
Was it me or did Artosis sound horribly biased and completely clueless?
He did sound horribly biased. Personally I lost a lot of respect for him.
You need to get a Terran with some guts on the show JP before I watch you again. The bias was so disgusting I had to close the stream even though I looked forward to watching it.
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On June 20 2012 15:09 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 15:06 CaptainCharisma wrote:On June 20 2012 14:52 cavalier117 wrote:On June 20 2012 14:46 avilo wrote:On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote:
but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? Btw, I never dodged your challenge. I also do believe I am a better player than you, as well as more qualified to talk about balance than you are. My WCS result over you already proves who is better, and I am willing to prove it again. I challenge you to a bo5, my conditions are that I play as Protoss and you play as Terran for the entire series. We each put up $50.00, and we both must stream the entire bo5. MLG 2012 map pool from most recent MLG. "hey guys, i wanna try and show the world that im not in fact scared of Incontrol or backing down. so instead of accepting his challenge and prove that my terran is in fact, better than his protoss, ill turn the tables and challenge him to an offrace!" yea... that will really show who is more skilled.... take your meds and go to bed dude... you're just making a fool of yourself. In a question of who is more suitable for discussing balance, I think playing mirror off races is a brilliant idea. bc Avilo, who wants to prove he can provide good commentary and discussion on Terran balance, wants to prove it, by winning a showmatch as protoss....riiiight
Not only would it be a more interesting novelty match, but if Avilo wants to speak to the TvP MU, what better way to establish his credibility by simultaneously showing he understands Protoss better than his opponent understands Terran?
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On June 20 2012 15:16 Neelia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 11:42 Zdrastochye wrote:On June 20 2012 11:41 Dexington wrote:On June 20 2012 11:33 Shaddar wrote:On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote:
I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time.
Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it.
Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem? I don't see what qualifies you to be a Terran representative for talking balance Dude, he's on Team Legion. Any more explanation needed? Use stats. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1644_aviloLike his 30% winrate. Everything must look imbalanced to him. Funny that you bring up his winrate, because that makes him seem an okay pick. IdraIncontrolTylerFunny how people throw around single, picked out percentages to make their points
LOL, owned.
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On June 20 2012 15:17 CaptainCharisma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 15:16 Neelia wrote:On June 20 2012 11:42 Zdrastochye wrote:On June 20 2012 11:41 Dexington wrote:On June 20 2012 11:33 Shaddar wrote:On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote:
I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time.
Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it.
Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem? I don't see what qualifies you to be a Terran representative for talking balance Dude, he's on Team Legion. Any more explanation needed? Use stats. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1644_aviloLike his 30% winrate. Everything must look imbalanced to him. Funny that you bring up his winrate, because that makes him seem an okay pick. IdraIncontrolTylerFunny how people throw around single, picked out percentages to make their points LOL, owned.
wow Idra has a 26% winrate in 2012? didn't realize it was that bad...yikes. 
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