On May 26 2012 06:04 neoghaleon55 wrote: Hi guys, I'm having trouble syncing state of the game episode 69 on to my iPhone 3S.
I've had the same problem starting with episode 67 and 68 Recently, as in within a week or so, episodes 67 and 68 was able to sync.
Episode 69 is currently not in the apple store, so I can't download it there yet. If any of you have suggestions, please let me know.
Thanks.
What is the problem exactly? Can you expand on 'trouble syncing'?
When I get the new episode I just simply right click 'State of the game' and click update podcast.
The youtube video is up
So if you really want to brute force is, just download it with a program that downloads youtube videos (google if you don't know any) and convert it to mp3 or keep it mp4.
On May 25 2012 08:31 iNcontroL wrote: What I am saying is it would be LESS bad fi the invite was qualifed as someone that would bring more eyes and has done things like compete in events, win some stuff or been around the community.
inviting a former cheater who has 0 accomlishments inside 2 years and doesn't actually participate in the community/events outside of making youtube videos IS a wasted invite.
I disagree, I for one is quite excited to see a foreigner who's lived in Korea for quite a while and is said to have a grandmaster account there. To quote was it Darkforce(?) from the show who said something like "if Soulkey is in Grandmaster league he should be able to do some damage in the open bracket (MLG)", well same goes for LS, if he is a grandmaster player in Korea he should be able to do some damage at the Red Bull Battlegrounds (his group is tough as shit though).
Also, a pull-factor is the fact that we know very little about him. He got 4th at MLG Raleigh 2010, which doesn't say much about his skill now of course, but it does tell you that he used to be on par with the best. It will intrigue me (and I'm sure a lot of other people) to see him play. He is an unknown with history and so it will be a cute storyline that say EGMachine or EmpireHappy wouldn't match, even though they probably are more deserving of the invite.
It's fine for you to disagree, not everyone can be correct.
This isn't the open bracket.. so far from it. The reason you fail to even enter into this discussion properly is not limited to but deserves recognition precisely because you cannot tell the difference between a 41k$ 16 man invite and the MLG open bracket.
Your first sentence proves you missread my post. What I was saying was that LS is a pull-factor for me, in the sense that I think of LS as an interesting invite that will be fun to follow. So what I disagreed with you on was that it is a "wasted invite". If the player you invite to a tournament is an interesting figure to someone, then the tournament has done exactly what Day[9] reasoned with on LO3 on why he was chosen.
Also, I wrote in my post that players like EGMachine and EmpireHappy would be more deserving of an invite when it comes to accomplishments etc. so there's no argument there.
And then you focus on the least important part of my post where I suggest he should (in very relative terms might I add) be able to put up a decent fight in the tournament. Did I say he would get out of his group? No.. So to latch onto that as me being totally ignorant is quite peculiar.
So in your first sentence you wrote that I was not correct when my whole argument was over a completely subjective matter regarding LS's pull-factor for the tournament, which I stated to put light on the fact that some people are actually interested in seeing LS play. And while he may not deserve the invite when it comes to accomplishments, I think he deserve the invite because it will create a good storyline (for me).
All in all I find your response quite peculiar, I'd love for you to shed some light on all the other aspects of my post you think was ridiculous
PS: I love you <3
Oh and I'm aware of the fact that I used the term "quite peculiar" several times, but I'm ok with it. I'm Norwegian and all
This will be interesting. LS is going to be under the spotlight by many to see if his invite was a good move or not. As for the friends with the head caster I think we could all agree that it only helped him be chosen. And if you do not you may not believe in social networking.
On May 25 2012 08:31 iNcontroL wrote: What I am saying is it would be LESS bad fi the invite was qualifed as someone that would bring more eyes and has done things like compete in events, win some stuff or been around the community.
inviting a former cheater who has 0 accomlishments inside 2 years and doesn't actually participate in the community/events outside of making youtube videos IS a wasted invite.
I disagree, I for one is quite excited to see a foreigner who's lived in Korea for quite a while and is said to have a grandmaster account there. To quote was it Darkforce(?) from the show who said something like "if Soulkey is in Grandmaster league he should be able to do some damage in the open bracket (MLG)", well same goes for LS, if he is a grandmaster player in Korea he should be able to do some damage at the Red Bull Battlegrounds (his group is tough as shit though).
Also, a pull-factor is the fact that we know very little about him. He got 4th at MLG Raleigh 2010, which doesn't say much about his skill now of course, but it does tell you that he used to be on par with the best. It will intrigue me (and I'm sure a lot of other people) to see him play. He is an unknown with history and so it will be a cute storyline that say EGMachine or EmpireHappy wouldn't match, even though they probably are more deserving of the invite.
It's fine for you to disagree, not everyone can be correct.
This isn't the open bracket.. so far from it. The reason you fail to even enter into this discussion properly is not limited to but deserves recognition precisely because you cannot tell the difference between a 41k$ 16 man invite and the MLG open bracket.
Your first sentence proves you missread my post. What I was saying was that LS is a pull-factor for me, in the sense that I think of LS as an interesting invite that will be fun to follow. So what I disagreed with you on was that it is a "wasted invite". If the player you invite to a tournament is an interesting figure to someone, then the tournament has done exactly what Day[9] reasoned with on LO3 on why he was chosen.
Also, I wrote in my post that players like EGMachine and EmpireHappy would be more deserving of an invite when it comes to accomplishments etc. so there's no argument there.
And then you focus on the least important part of my post where I suggest he should (in very relative terms might I add) be able to put up a decent fight in the tournament. Did I say he would get out of his group? No.. So to latch onto that as me being totally ignorant is quite peculiar.
So in your first sentence you wrote that I was not correct when my whole argument was over a completely subjective matter regarding LS's pull-factor for the tournament, which I stated to put light on the fact that some people are actually interested in seeing LS play. And while he may not deserve the invite when it comes to accomplishments, I think he deserve the invite because it will create a good storyline (for me).
All in all I find your response quite peculiar, I'd love for you to shed some light on all the other aspects of my post you think was ridiculous
PS: I love you <3
Oh and I'm aware of the fact that I used the term "quite peculiar" several times, but I'm ok with it. I'm Norwegian and all
You subconsciously reaffirmed Geoff's point. You state that LS has something to offer to you, hence it's good they invited him. Now, usually opinions should be treated equally, which translates into a majority vote. Geoff's point was, there are a multitude of other players that bring more than "haven't heard of him for more than a year", hence the probability is higher that they have to offer more things to more people. In your case, you are happy that your own particular vote was casted. But it should be understandable that there might be many others feeling another player could have offered more.
On May 25 2012 08:31 iNcontroL wrote: What I am saying is it would be LESS bad fi the invite was qualifed as someone that would bring more eyes and has done things like compete in events, win some stuff or been around the community.
inviting a former cheater who has 0 accomlishments inside 2 years and doesn't actually participate in the community/events outside of making youtube videos IS a wasted invite.
I disagree, I for one is quite excited to see a foreigner who's lived in Korea for quite a while and is said to have a grandmaster account there. To quote was it Darkforce(?) from the show who said something like "if Soulkey is in Grandmaster league he should be able to do some damage in the open bracket (MLG)", well same goes for LS, if he is a grandmaster player in Korea he should be able to do some damage at the Red Bull Battlegrounds (his group is tough as shit though).
Also, a pull-factor is the fact that we know very little about him. He got 4th at MLG Raleigh 2010, which doesn't say much about his skill now of course, but it does tell you that he used to be on par with the best. It will intrigue me (and I'm sure a lot of other people) to see him play. He is an unknown with history and so it will be a cute storyline that say EGMachine or EmpireHappy wouldn't match, even though they probably are more deserving of the invite.
It's fine for you to disagree, not everyone can be correct.
This isn't the open bracket.. so far from it. The reason you fail to even enter into this discussion properly is not limited to but deserves recognition precisely because you cannot tell the difference between a 41k$ 16 man invite and the MLG open bracket.
Your first sentence proves you missread my post. What I was saying was that LS is a pull-factor for me, in the sense that I think of LS as an interesting invite that will be fun to follow. So what I disagreed with you on was that it is a "wasted invite". If the player you invite to a tournament is an interesting figure to someone, then the tournament has done exactly what Day[9] reasoned with on LO3 on why he was chosen.
Also, I wrote in my post that players like EGMachine and EmpireHappy would be more deserving of an invite when it comes to accomplishments etc. so there's no argument there.
And then you focus on the least important part of my post where I suggest he should (in very relative terms might I add) be able to put up a decent fight in the tournament. Did I say he would get out of his group? No.. So to latch onto that as me being totally ignorant is quite peculiar.
So in your first sentence you wrote that I was not correct when my whole argument was over a completely subjective matter regarding LS's pull-factor for the tournament, which I stated to put light on the fact that some people are actually interested in seeing LS play. And while he may not deserve the invite when it comes to accomplishments, I think he deserve the invite because it will create a good storyline (for me).
All in all I find your response quite peculiar, I'd love for you to shed some light on all the other aspects of my post you think was ridiculous
PS: I love you <3
Oh and I'm aware of the fact that I used the term "quite peculiar" several times, but I'm ok with it. I'm Norwegian and all
You subconsciously reaffirmed Geoff's point. You state that LS has something to offer to you, hence it's good they invited him. Now, usually opinions should be treated equally, which translates into a majority vote. Geoff's point was, there are a multitude of other players that bring more than "haven't heard of him for more than a year", hence the probability is higher that they have to offer more things to more people. In your case, you are happy that your own particular vote was casted. But it should be understandable that there might be many others feeling another player could have offered more.
me being invited is a pull-factor for me, and maybe my mom. but i doubt anyone else cares. ajtls doesnt deserve the invite.
On May 26 2012 07:27 rotegirte wrote: You subconsciously reaffirmed Geoff's point. You state that LS has something to offer to you, hence it's good they invited him. Now, usually opinions should be treated equally, which translates into a majority vote. Geoff's point was, there are a multitude of other players that bring more than "haven't heard of him for more than a year", hence the probability is higher that they have to offer more things to more people. In your case, you are happy that your own particular vote was casted. But it should be understandable that there might be many others feeling another player could have offered more.
Of course it is understandable, but then again the only thing I said was that I disagreed with iNcontroL. He was the one saying I was wrong, not the other way around. I do not mind at all that people think someone else should have been invited, and I have given no signs that I feel any different. All I did was to put forth my pov in that I appreciate the invite. Even if majority rules I don't see why the minority can't share their view.
I'm glad socke was on. He was in monster mode lately, and I'm glad some people got to hear him talk about it.
I would really like to see some of the Matchup breakdowns you guys had earlier on in the show. I think it was cool hearing a little bit of a discussion about ZvT between Qxc and Darkforce, but I'd really like to to hear those indepth discussions about the state of the matchup and the players thoughts of where things might/should head between two really good players (and NonY and iNc are great for talking really in depth about P strategy).
On May 25 2012 08:31 iNcontroL wrote: What I am saying is it would be LESS bad fi the invite was qualifed as someone that would bring more eyes and has done things like compete in events, win some stuff or been around the community.
inviting a former cheater who has 0 accomlishments inside 2 years and doesn't actually participate in the community/events outside of making youtube videos IS a wasted invite.
I disagree, I for one is quite excited to see a foreigner who's lived in Korea for quite a while and is said to have a grandmaster account there. To quote was it Darkforce(?) from the show who said something like "if Soulkey is in Grandmaster league he should be able to do some damage in the open bracket (MLG)", well same goes for LS, if he is a grandmaster player in Korea he should be able to do some damage at the Red Bull Battlegrounds (his group is tough as shit though).
Also, a pull-factor is the fact that we know very little about him. He got 4th at MLG Raleigh 2010, which doesn't say much about his skill now of course, but it does tell you that he used to be on par with the best. It will intrigue me (and I'm sure a lot of other people) to see him play. He is an unknown with history and so it will be a cute storyline that say EGMachine or EmpireHappy wouldn't match, even though they probably are more deserving of the invite.
It's fine for you to disagree, not everyone can be correct.
This isn't the open bracket.. so far from it. The reason you fail to even enter into this discussion properly is not limited to but deserves recognition precisely because you cannot tell the difference between a 41k$ 16 man invite and the MLG open bracket.
It's an invite. It's not deserved or underserved. It's within the organizer's discretion. Ultimately, if it helps make the tournament more interesting it's good, if it doesn't it's not.
Day9 (somewhat cynically) said that the criticism for inviting lastshadow is good, because it created a storyline for the tournament. Maybe that's not entirely true. But still, the fact remains that a single bad invite in a 16 player tournament hardly matters at all.
If you are fine with people being invited because they are friends with the head caster then that is that.. not really anything to say to you. If you are upset because more deserving people should have been invited.. and by "more deserving" lets be clear, I am talking about people that actually participate in the community and do things around here like go to events, create content, win etc. LS is most famous for being kicked from the GOM house, calling all foreigners shit and being a former hacker/cheater. Recently he made videos that helped a lot of people, I think that is rad. But I don't think that means he starts getting invites to the most prestigious tourneys on the planet.
That being said this will be my last post on it. I will love/watch this tourney regardless. I think Day9 is doing a fantastic job helping Redbull get into eSports and I could care less in the grand scheme of things about LS. I made a point, I think it's valid, but it in no way shape or form will detract from the entertainment value of this tourney for me. To post more would make it seem I care MORE than I do which is simply not the case.. it's a small drop in a big bucket as far as I am concerned.
I don't think that he got kicked, he left on his own after problems in the GOMHouse. I don't think he is a good invite at all because of his BM (i don't mean the hacking 4 years ago, since some players have hacked/abused and they have been forgiven), imo this proves why invite tournaments are the best solution, so that there would be players who are there purely because of skills. I still hope that he is able to take some games though, if he will go 0-6 everyone will call him a noobie, but most foreign players would go 0-6 in that group.
I kinda disagree with you about him not being involved in the community, he made around 15 or so long indepth videos on strategy, and there isn't much of that content out there at all. Also his stream has 200 viewers and he commentates, not that many T streamers out there who do that.
Incontrols criticism of lastshadow is pathetic. They guy whines about community backlash all the time, then proceeds to crusade against an INVITE sent to a fellow SC2 player. I think its great that lastshadow got the chance to play in this tournament, even if he didn't win a map.
Notice how qxc/darkforce/socke really didn't care about him getting invited. Only incontrol who is one of the most hypocritical people in the community.
I don't think incontrol dislikes Lastshadow for being being picked, the decision to be picked was not his to make and an opportunity like that is not something you'd pass up if you were in that situation. He's not trying to criticize Lastshadow, he's criticizing Day[9]'s choice of him over other more worthier competitors/personalities.
An interesting point people are bringing up is that anyone would go 0-6 in that group minus a few people. Well, that's a completely understandable viewpoint, so thus what I would do is look at the games and see how much of a fight he put up, how the builds played out, how his timing's and such worked out.
What ended up happening was nothing of value on his side being displayed at all. Nothing interesting, refined, effective. All he did was die to one zealot and +1 roaches. That's what he flew across the entire planet for, one zealot to kill him.
Now if this had been anyone else that was a well mannered player that's been in the spotlight but underachieved as of late, like say...DesRow or Scarlett to prove themselves and get on another team, that would be fine with me. They'd go on the merit of being a well mannered underdog, someone that could deserve it. I'm not really a fan of either of them but I mean that's just an example. The point is someone that doesn't shit on the foreigner seen treating them like shit and then getting murdered in public at a foreigner tournament 0-6, with forfeits. I don't care who he played, he should of finished the games too. Basically Redbull just gave him rent money to disrespect the tournament, and I don't understand why he was given a break like this that someone else should have gotten.
I'm glad QuanticIllusion got to go though, that guy played really well and despite falling he showed some boss games. That's the kind of player that should have been invited. Ostojiy played pretty well too and fell in a similar fashion, but he's been working his way up the ranks a little, so I was fine with this. This should of been a cake walk for LS though, I mean it's a foreigner tournament. Wonder what happened there.
On May 27 2012 22:53 PeggyHill wrote: Incontrols criticism of lastshadow is pathetic. They guy whines about community backlash all the time, then proceeds to crusade against an INVITE sent to a fellow SC2 player. I think its great that lastshadow got the chance to play in this tournament, even if he didn't win a map.
Notice how qxc/darkforce/socke really didn't care about him getting invited. Only incontrol who is one of the most hypocritical people in the community.
I agree. Incontrol should know by now that if you set a bloody rag to the wind, the wolves will come in droves. He would have you believe that the shit he gets from the community made him depressed last year or whatever the heck it was he was alluding to. If this is true, you'd think he'd be a bit more sensitive when slinging shit on other community figures.
On May 27 2012 23:29 solidONE wrote: An interesting point people are bringing up is that anyone would go 0-6 in that group minus a few people. Well, that's a completely understandable viewpoint, so thus what I would do is look at the games and see how much of a fight he put up, how the builds played out, how his timing's and such worked out.
What ended up happening was nothing of value on his side being displayed at all. Nothing interesting, refined, effective. All he did was die to one zealot and +1 roaches. That's what he flew across the entire planet for, one zealot to kill him.
Now if this had been anyone else that was a well mannered player that's been in the spotlight but underachieved as of late, like say...DesRow or Scarlett to prove themselves and get on another team, that would be fine with me. They'd go on the merit of being a well mannered underdog, someone that could deserve it. I'm not really a fan of either of them but I mean that's just an example. The point is someone that doesn't shit on the foreigner seen treating them like shit and then getting murdered in public at a foreigner tournament 0-6, with forfeits. I don't care who he played, he should of finished the games too. Basically Redbull just gave him rent money to disrespect the tournament, and I don't understand why he was given a break like this that someone else should have gotten.
I'm glad QuanticIllusion got to go though, that guy played really well and despite falling he showed some boss games. That's the kind of player that should have been invited. Ostojiy played pretty well too and fell in a similar fashion, but he's been working his way up the ranks a little, so I was fine with this. This should of been a cake walk for LS though, I mean it's a foreigner tournament. Wonder what happened there.
Classifying it as a "foreigner tournament" doesn't really change the fact that he had to play the 2 Protosses Mvp had to to claim his 4th GSL.
And he might have shat on the foreigner scene in general, but he's always had reserve compliments and respect for some exceptions, Ret being one of them. (Come to think of it, most people he gives a lot of respect to were big names from BW)
On May 27 2012 22:53 PeggyHill wrote: Incontrols criticism of lastshadow is pathetic. They guy whines about community backlash all the time, then proceeds to crusade against an INVITE sent to a fellow SC2 player. I think its great that lastshadow got the chance to play in this tournament, even if he didn't win a map.
Notice how qxc/darkforce/socke really didn't care about him getting invited. Only incontrol who is one of the most hypocritical people in the community.
"then proceeds to crusade against an INVITE sent to a fellow SC2 player"
Man... you are really trying hard to make it sound dramatic. You could also just say "iNcontroL voiced his opinion about LastShadow being invited to the tournament, saying he did not agree with it." No need to sensationalize it.
Also, what is up with mentioning that the other people on the show didn't care? You don't even know that is the case. Perhaps they didn't care (which I don't know why you are even trying to use that to make iNcontroL look like some kind of bad guy) but it is also possible that they just didn't want to get caught up and blamed for any drama, because people like you just look to point the finger. iNcontroL voicing his opinion (which many people shared before and after he said how he felt on the matter) is not as big of a deal as you seem to be making it. He didn't give LS shit for accepting the invite or say that people should do anything about the situation.
can I make a suggestion? the lower right side is the worst place to put a link for skipping to when the show starts. Why? because in fullscreen/normal screen when I want to click on that link youtube sets its options exactly on that section.
On May 27 2012 23:29 solidONE wrote: An interesting point people are bringing up is that anyone would go 0-6 in that group minus a few people. Well, that's a completely understandable viewpoint, so thus what I would do is look at the games and see how much of a fight he put up, how the builds played out, how his timing's and such worked out.
What ended up happening was nothing of value on his side being displayed at all. Nothing interesting, refined, effective. All he did was die to one zealot and +1 roaches. That's what he flew across the entire planet for, one zealot to kill him.
Now if this had been anyone else that was a well mannered player that's been in the spotlight but underachieved as of late, like say...DesRow or Scarlett to prove themselves and get on another team, that would be fine with me. They'd go on the merit of being a well mannered underdog, someone that could deserve it. I'm not really a fan of either of them but I mean that's just an example. The point is someone that doesn't shit on the foreigner seen treating them like shit and then getting murdered in public at a foreigner tournament 0-6, with forfeits. I don't care who he played, he should of finished the games too. Basically Redbull just gave him rent money to disrespect the tournament, and I don't understand why he was given a break like this that someone else should have gotten.
I'm glad QuanticIllusion got to go though, that guy played really well and despite falling he showed some boss games. That's the kind of player that should have been invited. Ostojiy played pretty well too and fell in a similar fashion, but he's been working his way up the ranks a little, so I was fine with this. This should of been a cake walk for LS though, I mean it's a foreigner tournament. Wonder what happened there.
Classifying it as a "foreigner tournament" doesn't really change the fact that he had to play the 2 Protosses Mvp had to to claim his 4th GSL.
And he might have shat on the foreigner scene in general, but he's always had reserve compliments and respect for some exceptions, Ret being one of them. (Come to think of it, most people he gives a lot of respect to were big names from BW)
That's fair enough, and I included that sentiment in my post. No matter how you cut it though, if someone is going to act like that and have outspoken negative views they'd better back it up or be ready to get eaten alive. That's what happened. I mean to be honest if I were in his position I don't even know if I'd accept the invite just due to the circumstances. If he followed the scene at all he'd know that he was marked for death before even walking into the thing. Maybe he truly does believe in himself and his play, but it was a big risk and this is the result really.
Guy has a lot of balls though, if he did take games or make it out of the group he could extend the biggest fuck you of all time ever delivered. Unfortunately for him that simply wasn't the case. Who knows though, could be the fact soon enough to come. So in that sense I kind of like him for that
The latest SOTG was severely disappointing the amount of "hate" and disrespect is unbelievable. Incontrol started shitting on LS for no reason same with darkforce and socke making shit up with absolutely no evidence of anything just riding the troll train with incontrol, sure he was invited, he may not be the most "known player" but that doesn't matter at all, I mean he practices in korea he's a korean grandmaster/master player he's beaten many high level players, losira,tails,etc Day9 watched his stream many a time and saw potential for him to do well, he did 0-6 in his group but he was against some of the best players in the world. I could bash incontrol for his own play but that would be immature and achieve nothing.In his games LS showed definite skill even though he did get beat pretty bad in the games, he was definitely an under-dog and now people will on him worse because he got smashed, do you think he likes that? I could go on for hours but ya.... very disappointed into what SOTG has become, a show to shit on people making mistakes, while having fans of the show bash them, and what's funny is the ones who make the most mistakes in accordance to their careers are on the show.
Anyway what's this about him missing? he deleted his twitter? what happened? anyone know?
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