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On January 13 2012 02:19 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 02:11 Condor Hero wrote:Holy shit JP, huge props for turning away guaranteed security from a huge sponsor and keeping SotG by the community and for the community. Will always support SotG for the many great moments you guys have provided throughout 60+ episodes. On January 13 2012 02:10 turdburgler wrote:
going independent doesnt do shit for their coverage. jp still works for mlg, every player is still attached to a team and cant talk about them in ways they can other leagues/teams. so the people on the show are losing their pay cheque for no reason.
derp No but it does mean MLG won't use SotG to make an announcement for their plans for 2012 or w/e the fuck that was. They trying to get a new sponsor who understand that free SotG is the best SotG. How the fuck they gonna do that if MLG is still sponsoring? This show is too great and there's too much money in esports right now for them to not find a sponsor. but mlg IS still sponsoring them. if jp doesnt get paid by mlg he cant sit on his ass making sotg for us all night long, because he would need to get another job.
But this way they get more creative freedom.
You're saying you won't be satisfied until they all quit their esports related jobs so you can have the satisfaction of 100% unbiased discussion?
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I don't get it, how could SotG be independent if the main host / organiser is still working for MLG.
Whether the show itself is actually being hosted on MLG or not, it really makes very little difference.
I can't imagine the conversation going any different than:
Sundance: "Hey JP, we're getting rid of almost all our discussion shows due to budget constraints, we just can't waste the bandwidth on it due to being unable to figure out how to monetize it. We can't make it look like we dropped SotG though because there will probably be community outrage"
JP: "Oh, that's fine then... Let's just say I came up with the idea and we'll bundle it with all this "community based independent journalist" crap that's been going on so MLG doesn't look bad."
Sure I could be wrong, but we'll never know considering MLG pays JP's bills; which is kind of the point. We'll always get the MLG spin in regards to this, regardless of whether they sponsor the show or not.
Edit: Good point by Geoff below though... I wonder if that's why we haven't heard much extended series bashing lately.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
MLG does not sponsor SOTG. JP being employed by them is not a "sponsorship."
This 100% does mean we are now free (completely) to discuss anything MLG related without having to worry.. JP obviously won't be as candid but that is the same as me not being 100% candid about EG business related stuff or Tyler not being harsh onTL etc. We all have our ties but now we have fewer... it's a move in the right direction.
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On January 13 2012 02:31 iNcontroL wrote:
MLG does not sponsor SOTG. JP being employed by them is not a "sponsorship."
This 100% does mean we are now free (completely) to discuss anything MLG related without having to worry.. JP obviously won't be as candid but that is the same as me not being 100% candid about EG business related stuff or Tyler not being harsh onTL etc. We all have our ties but now we have fewer... it's a move in the right direction.
You all should quit your fucking jobs or the show will lose its legitimacy.
/sarcasm
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On January 13 2012 02:11 Condor Hero wrote:Holy shit JP, huge props for turning away guaranteed security from a huge sponsor and keeping SotG by the community and for the community. Will always support SotG for the many great moments you guys have provided throughout 60+ episodes. Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 02:10 turdburgler wrote:
going independent doesnt do shit for their coverage. jp still works for mlg, every player is still attached to a team and cant talk about them in ways they can other leagues/teams. so the people on the show are losing their pay cheque for no reason.
derp No but it does mean MLG won't use SotG to make an announcement for their plans for 2012 or w/e the fuck that was.
They trying to get a new sponsor who understand that free SotG is the best SotG.
How the fuck they gonna do that if MLG is still sponsoring?
This show is too great and there's too much money in esports right now for them to not find a sponsor.
JP still works for MLG, and did hint about "NYC office visit" (Which is where MLG is located) for the first episode of the season. SoTG was always free under MLG wtf?
The only thing that changed was when the show airs and losing the MLG sponsorship.
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iNcontroL
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heh 
Take note that we are looking for sponsors! We are at this time doing it 100% on our own which is fine and good but it'd be nice if we could alleviate the costs from JP, get ourselves higher production value and maybe make some money at the same time. If you have any leads hit up JP at sotg@itmejp.com
At the end of the day, sponsored or not.. you get SOTG! So fear not <3 (myself as well, fucking love doing this heh)
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dont get the discussion
is it better to have a slightly mlg biased jp or not have no sotg at all?
answer is obvious i guess so where is the problem?
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is this tonight? at 7 est?
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Best. News. Ever.
<3
Well maybe not ever, but I'm pretty happy with this, looking forward to the real SoTG again. <3
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love the new time... i can watch it live now. thx!
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Now I don't need to stay up until 2 am to finish watching the whole SoTG.
Thanks JP!
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Portugal1653 Posts
Midnight here in Portugal. Awesome hour :-D
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I just read JP's announcement, and I can't wait for the 19th! My two cents:
First, I'm truly up for paying for additional content. However, I see chat access and icons as gimmicks not content. I have fingers crossed that the "more stuff" to be revealed on the 19th is more in the vein of content.
Second, best of luck finding sponsors. It's a great show and I really hope you guys can drum up the financial support to sustain and grow the show. As a fan, I'm more than happy to support sponsors of SotG.
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On January 13 2012 02:24 WArped wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 01:52 Uracil wrote:
good news.
I don't see them reaching more people with the new time though. Really? That new time so much better for Europeans, at least we can watch live now instead of waiting for VOD's or staying up to watch it. A step in the right direction. I have been waiting for the time to change for a while and wondered why it wasn't changed sooner. Looking forward to next week!
For me personally it's starts at 1 am. Sure that's a better time than 4 or 5am. But usually the show last about 2 so that would be from 1 am to 3 am. For me that not really a god time to watch a show on a regular basis. But i hope that the move pays out for them. And that the mp3 is up in the morning.
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SotG starting times for the timezone-challenged
16:00 PST - US West coast
19:00 EST - US East coast
00:00 GMT - UK
01:00 CET - Continental Europe
09:00 KST - Korea
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On January 13 2012 02:35 iNcontroL wrote:heh Take note that we are looking for sponsors! We are at this time doing it 100% on our own which is fine and good but it'd be nice if we could alleviate the costs from JP, get ourselves higher production value and maybe make some money at the same time. If you have any leads hit up JP at sotg@itmejp.com At the end of the day, sponsored or not.. you get SOTG! So fear not <3 (myself as well, fucking love doing this heh)
Good to hear!
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On January 13 2012 02:58 Rannasha wrote:SotG starting times for the timezone-challenged 16:00 PST - US West coast 19:00 EST - US East coast 00:00 GMT - UK 01:00 CET - Continental Europe 09:00 KST - Korea
Still a bit later than I'd like, but I understand they gotsta account for dan in korea and the rest of them all over all timezones of the states
Thanks for making the effort bros!
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Still in the middle of the night but if it means the VOD will be up in the morning for us europeans that is great and we really can't ask for more.
Looking forward to the new season keep up the good work!
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