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slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 20:42:34
November 21 2011 20:42 GMT
#36001
On November 22 2011 04:50 Treemonkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 01:54 magnaflow wrote:
On November 22 2011 01:42 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
- Nestea & Naniwa "conflict"

What's that about? Did I miss something?



No. It's people exaudarating and looking for drama


Starting with Artosis' explanation of it, which is probably what most people heard. Artosis was the one that made a big deal out of it and exaggerated it, on the stream.

Meh, you can't really blame it all on Artosis. In my eyes he was doing his job; casters should try to add some story/drama to a tournament, it makes things more interesting. The way that people reacted to it was pretty ridiculous imo.
I get it.
SecondSandwich
Profile Joined July 2008
United States319 Posts
November 21 2011 20:50 GMT
#36002
On November 22 2011 01:32 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 00:34 Spessi wrote:
On November 21 2011 23:10 JoeAWESOME wrote:
This Sotg can be one of the best ones. So much content!
- Leenock
- Haypro
- Naniwa
- Naniwas play in the finals
- MLG overall
- Protoss coming back (?)
- Illusion
- MLG in general
- Stephano winning IPL 4 UK qualifier
- Nestea & Naniwa "conflict"
- PvZ sentry drop with warp prism after air play

and prob a lot of other things that I can't think of right now


edit (thx for input)


- Zenio joining TL
- Dreamhack preview
- Blizzard Cup invites
- GSL discussion leading to the Up/Down for Idra/Demuslim


I don't really think leenock is worth spending that much time on. It was his first big foreign event that I know of, but he's been in code S. It's not like he's some new breakout zomg person. It's a code S player coming over to a foreign event. Sure it's the biggest foreign tournament of the year but...he's still a code s player.

Similarly, Naniwa & Nestea's "conflict" really isn't worth talking about, other than maybe two seconds of further clarification for lazy people, as it's been stated over and over to just be an out of context quote.

I don't know why protoss are "coming back", since they never really left. Especially if you believe that Code S staying all terran is just from bad format.

I would really like to hear what the plans are for MLG next year so they don't open up really strong then look like poo in comparison to IPL the rest of the year after IPL comes out in a nicer venue with player interviews and constant camera action everywhere and bla bla bla, as well as hearing more about how the structure throughout the year is going to be.

Leenock vs.
2-0 Infernozz
2-0 duckyr
2-0 Drewbie
2-0 Oz
2-0 Gatored
2-0 State
2-0 Haypro
0-2 DRG
2-0 Boxer
2-0 Slush
2-1 MMA
2-0 Idra
2-0 Huk
2-0 MVP
4-1 DRG
4-1 Naniwa
34-5 Overall

+ him being only 16 years old and winning 50k. Yeh, not really worth talking about much


Lol, point made :-D
"Whatever [flash] says is the best, is the best" -Artosis i!i!i!i!i!Find Match!i!i!i!i!!i
btlVega
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany53 Posts
November 21 2011 20:56 GMT
#36003
Another good topic for SOTG: The removal of Ghosts from sc2

Seriously what happened with that?
Bitches know me, I'm Jos 'LiquidRet' de Kroon. I drink, smoke and don't exercize.
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
November 21 2011 21:00 GMT
#36004
On November 22 2011 05:56 btlVega wrote:
Another good topic for SOTG: The removal of Ghosts from sc2

Seriously what happened with that?

wait what?!?!

Anyways, STOG is on tomorrow night, and I get off tomorrow for break tomorrow. Life is good, too bad I killed my wife Lydia...=(.
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
Chamby
Profile Joined September 2011
United States32 Posts
November 21 2011 21:00 GMT
#36005
SotG is great! Its really cool to hear what top players and casters see as the current trends and styles in SC2
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
November 22 2011 00:32 GMT
#36006
Timestamp in the OP seems fucked up and there's no mention of SotG in my calendar.

Next episode TBD or on regularly?
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
November 22 2011 00:35 GMT
#36007
On November 22 2011 06:00 Steelavocado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 05:56 btlVega wrote:
Another good topic for SOTG: The removal of Ghosts from sc2

Seriously what happened with that?

wait what?!?!

Anyways, STOG is on tomorrow night, and I get off tomorrow for break tomorrow. Life is good, too bad I killed my wife Lydia...=(.

What? Is killing Lydia an inside joke or should I get your personal information so I can hand it over to the Feds?
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
November 22 2011 00:37 GMT
#36008
On November 22 2011 09:35 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 06:00 Steelavocado wrote:
On November 22 2011 05:56 btlVega wrote:
Another good topic for SOTG: The removal of Ghosts from sc2

Seriously what happened with that?

wait what?!?!

Anyways, STOG is on tomorrow night, and I get off tomorrow for break tomorrow. Life is good, too bad I killed my wife Lydia...=(.

What? Is killing Lydia an inside joke or should I get your personal information so I can hand it over to the Feds?


You sould probably play Skyrim my friend.
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Hoodlum
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States350 Posts
November 22 2011 00:40 GMT
#36009
On November 22 2011 01:42 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
- Nestea & Naniwa "conflict"

What's that about? Did I miss something?

Ya its kinda been blown up... I'm curious though... why did Nani open up the replay after the dead game... you have to know that is fucked up, he didnt get much info so im not saying he was cheating but it was obvious that he was trying to... if nestea was gonna 6 pool or some wonky shit like that then Nani would have figured it out.
xO gaming owner
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
November 22 2011 00:57 GMT
#36010
On November 22 2011 09:40 Hoodlum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 01:42 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
- Nestea & Naniwa "conflict"

What's that about? Did I miss something?

Ya its kinda been blown up... I'm curious though... why did Nani open up the replay after the dead game... you have to know that is fucked up, he didnt get much info so im not saying he was cheating but it was obvious that he was trying to... if nestea was gonna 6 pool or some wonky shit like that then Nani would have figured it out.


You obviously have no idea what happened

Nestea went for a 10 pool in the first game, and naniwa scouted it, then they had to leave the game.

There is nothing in mlg rules that forbids you to watch a replay between games, so it isn't even cheating and you can watch the build orders on the score screen, so watching the replay or not doesn't change anything
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 22 2011 00:57 GMT
#36011
On November 22 2011 09:40 Hoodlum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 01:42 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
- Nestea & Naniwa "conflict"

What's that about? Did I miss something?

Ya its kinda been blown up... I'm curious though... why did Nani open up the replay after the dead game... you have to know that is fucked up, he didnt get much info so im not saying he was cheating but it was obvious that he was trying to... if nestea was gonna 6 pool or some wonky shit like that then Nani would have figured it out.


Oh, hey flawed argument, you again.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
November 22 2011 00:59 GMT
#36012
They also definitly should comment on Husky's amazing plugging and the ability to fill time so marvelously good whilst the Archon struggled to fill time
Pokemon Master
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
November 22 2011 01:02 GMT
#36013
On November 22 2011 06:00 Steelavocado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 05:56 btlVega wrote:
Another good topic for SOTG: The removal of Ghosts from sc2

Seriously what happened with that?

wait what?!?!

Anyways, STOG is on tomorrow night, and I get off tomorrow for break tomorrow. Life is good, too bad I killed my wife Lydia...=(.


AHA! A confession! The police will be at your door tomorrow morning, you better be out of the country by then
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
November 22 2011 01:05 GMT
#36014
On November 22 2011 10:02 Seldentar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 06:00 Steelavocado wrote:
On November 22 2011 05:56 btlVega wrote:
Another good topic for SOTG: The removal of Ghosts from sc2

Seriously what happened with that?

wait what?!?!

Anyways, STOG is on tomorrow night, and I get off tomorrow for break tomorrow. Life is good, too bad I killed my wife Lydia...=(.


AHA! A confession! The police will be at your door tomorrow morning, you better be out of the country by then


I hope this is a skyrim reference
Getting too old for this..
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#36015
On November 22 2011 10:02 Seldentar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 06:00 Steelavocado wrote:
On November 22 2011 05:56 btlVega wrote:
Another good topic for SOTG: The removal of Ghosts from sc2

Seriously what happened with that?

wait what?!?!

Anyways, STOG is on tomorrow night, and I get off tomorrow for break tomorrow. Life is good, too bad I killed my wife Lydia...=(.


AHA! A confession! The police will be at your door tomorrow morning, you better be out of the country by then


Or have 1000 gold in the pocket.
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
November 22 2011 01:14 GMT
#36016
On November 22 2011 09:57 pPingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:40 Hoodlum wrote:
On November 22 2011 01:42 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
- Nestea & Naniwa "conflict"

What's that about? Did I miss something?

Ya its kinda been blown up... I'm curious though... why did Nani open up the replay after the dead game... you have to know that is fucked up, he didnt get much info so im not saying he was cheating but it was obvious that he was trying to... if nestea was gonna 6 pool or some wonky shit like that then Nani would have figured it out.


You obviously have no idea what happened

Nestea went for a 10 pool in the first game, and naniwa scouted it, then they had to leave the game.

There is nothing in mlg rules that forbids you to watch a replay between games, so it isn't even cheating and you can watch the build orders on the score screen, so watching the replay or not doesn't change anything


Exactly. I assume that the only reason that Naniwa opened the replay is to check spawn positions, as there was confusion about which version of the map was being played (cross only or horizontal spawns as well). Build-order can be easily determined from the end-of-game screen / match history.
Such flammable little insects!
CarelessPride
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
November 22 2011 01:17 GMT
#36017
On November 22 2011 09:57 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:40 Hoodlum wrote:
On November 22 2011 01:42 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
- Nestea & Naniwa "conflict"

What's that about? Did I miss something?

Ya its kinda been blown up... I'm curious though... why did Nani open up the replay after the dead game... you have to know that is fucked up, he didnt get much info so im not saying he was cheating but it was obvious that he was trying to... if nestea was gonna 6 pool or some wonky shit like that then Nani would have figured it out.


Oh, hey flawed argument, you again.


conflict was Naniwa won vs Nestea so he basicly said he overestimated Nestea to think hes smart but rather found out hes an idiot during the interview after the game so Nestea got really angry and wanted to beat Naniwa but lost again vs Naniwa later in the tourament.

IMO Nestea lost to haypro... =.= ZvZ. Enough said. WTF As good as haypro might be, if Nestea is the Nestea we know how the fuck do you lose to haypro in a match up you dominate. Its like DRG losing to drewbie .
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
November 22 2011 01:20 GMT
#36018
On November 22 2011 10:17 CarelessPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:57 Alpino wrote:
On November 22 2011 09:40 Hoodlum wrote:
On November 22 2011 01:42 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
- Nestea & Naniwa "conflict"

What's that about? Did I miss something?

Ya its kinda been blown up... I'm curious though... why did Nani open up the replay after the dead game... you have to know that is fucked up, he didnt get much info so im not saying he was cheating but it was obvious that he was trying to... if nestea was gonna 6 pool or some wonky shit like that then Nani would have figured it out.


Oh, hey flawed argument, you again.


conflict was Naniwa won vs Nestea so he basicly said he overestimated Nestea to think hes smart but rather found out hes an idiot during the interview after the game so Nestea got really angry and wanted to beat Naniwa but lost again vs Naniwa later in the tourament.

IMO Nestea lost to haypro... =.= ZvZ. Enough said. WTF As good as haypro might be, if Nestea is the Nestea we know how the fuck do you lose to haypro in a match up you dominate. Its like DRG losing to drewbie .


Haypro also took out Select, Kiwikaki and took a game off MVP before nerves got to him and he bungled himself. Don't try to take away from Haypro's awesome run this weekend.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
November 22 2011 01:22 GMT
#36019
On November 22 2011 10:02 Seldentar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 06:00 Steelavocado wrote:
On November 22 2011 05:56 btlVega wrote:
Another good topic for SOTG: The removal of Ghosts from sc2

Seriously what happened with that?

wait what?!?!

Anyways, STOG is on tomorrow night, and I get off tomorrow for break tomorrow. Life is good, too bad I killed my wife Lydia...=(.


AHA! A confession! The police will be at your door tomorrow morning, you better be out of the country by then


Stop right there criminal scum!
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
m3deman
Profile Joined May 2010
United States68 Posts
November 22 2011 01:26 GMT
#36020
On November 22 2011 10:20 Dismay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 10:17 CarelessPride wrote:
On November 22 2011 09:57 Alpino wrote:
On November 22 2011 09:40 Hoodlum wrote:
On November 22 2011 01:42 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
- Nestea & Naniwa "conflict"

What's that about? Did I miss something?

Ya its kinda been blown up... I'm curious though... why did Nani open up the replay after the dead game... you have to know that is fucked up, he didnt get much info so im not saying he was cheating but it was obvious that he was trying to... if nestea was gonna 6 pool or some wonky shit like that then Nani would have figured it out.


Oh, hey flawed argument, you again.


conflict was Naniwa won vs Nestea so he basicly said he overestimated Nestea to think hes smart but rather found out hes an idiot during the interview after the game so Nestea got really angry and wanted to beat Naniwa but lost again vs Naniwa later in the tourament.

IMO Nestea lost to haypro... =.= ZvZ. Enough said. WTF As good as haypro might be, if Nestea is the Nestea we know how the fuck do you lose to haypro in a match up you dominate. Its like DRG losing to drewbie .


Haypro also took out Select, Kiwikaki and took a game off MVP before nerves got to him and he bungled himself. Don't try to take away from Haypro's awesome run this weekend.


This. Haypro brought his A game this weekend and it was awesome being there to see it!
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