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Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1622

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FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
September 29 2011 09:13 GMT
#32421
any news about the VOD ?
YoloStar <3
thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 09:40:30
September 29 2011 09:40 GMT
#32422
tf wrong thread by a mile :<
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
September 29 2011 09:47 GMT
#32423
On September 29 2011 13:23 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 13:20 Cyrak wrote:
On September 29 2011 12:54 Longshank wrote:
On September 29 2011 12:30 Cyrak wrote:
On September 29 2011 12:22 Longshank wrote:
On September 29 2011 12:14 Canadium wrote:
On September 29 2011 08:49 StUfF wrote:
On September 29 2011 08:23 Canadium wrote:
It makes me really really sad to hear Artosis say that he wished BW would just die.... He actually sounds incredibly bitter. It's like BW still being around threatens his job security as a caster in Korea :/ It's almost hard to believe that he once had an appreciation for the game. I want the old Artosis back!!


He didn't say anything like this.

He said it was sad for SC2 to grow (broadcast on OGN and MBC) that it would have to cut into SC1 broadcast/audience etc.


No dude. He said he wished everyone would switch over to SC2.... a.k.a. the death of BW. He said it was sad but it didn't sound like he meant it.


So he wants one big booming scene rather than two starving ones. How silly of him.


Flash's salary got bumped to like $400k for the next season. If that's starving then I think the death of Brood War might take quite some time.


Indeed, that's the problem. Same with SC2, there's enough global interest to keep it running for several years still.

I bet Artosis would like to see a Starcraft game with a Korean BW-2007 scene but with the addition of a global SC2-2012 one. Now that would be something. Unfortunately that can only become a reality if the BW teams transfer over to SC2 which is unlikely to happen anytime soon.


It's not that easy. A lot of people in Korea and on TL as well consider BW and SC2 to be utterly unalike and their love for BW may not transition into love for SC2. I don't fall into the latter category but I understand it completely.

This game has a long way to go before it can fill the role that BW does and only at that point can we begin to discuss the rationality of abandoning BW since it would be truly outdated. It is from that perspective that a lot of people express disbelief at what Artosis said because he used to be a part of that scene and has to understand that SC2 is not yet ready to fill BW's shoes.

Anyone who views his comments through that lens is going to see them as opportunistic and disingenous, hence the controversy.


We seem to be over complicating a really simple non-issue.


Well, we tend to do that ALOT here on TL
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darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
September 29 2011 09:48 GMT
#32424
INCONTROL

I watched your little quip with idra on Inside the Game about the protoss in code A -- and the followup commentary you made on State of the Game with that discussion obviously fresh in your mind.

You should watch the opening game of tonight's GSTL. Prime vs TSL, Bumblebee(Z) vs JYP(P). When Idra talks about the new-school protoss and the kind of warp prism innovation that's coming, this is what he's referring to. I dunno if I agree with his sentiment on balance overall but certainly colossus deathball builds have been SUPERCHARGED with this patch, with the ability to warp prism harass and hard switch into the newly-improved immortals combined with infestors being more or less ineffective against this.

Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
September 29 2011 10:58 GMT
#32425
Well one things are obvious by now, Sc2 is booming in the foreigner scene. Especially NA and is most likely going to far surpass Korea to the point where the best Koreans will be on foreigner teams not Korean once. And Koreans interest in esports seems to be dying. I think its interesting that people think flashes high salaries is somehow a reflection of the state of the BW industry. For me as an outsider to the BW scene it just looks like Kespa throwing money at a much bigger problem trying to stir some hype up from Flash's salaries and 3 teams being managed by the league itself is so bad I can't even imagine how it will work.

So yeah I'd have to say Artosis is right, right now the existence of both SC and SC2 in Korea is creating a situation where neither might end up succeeding.

But then again Americas dominance over the Sc2 scene was inevitable anyway as it is about to go mainstream over there, the money in the sport will be unlike anything we have ever seen in esports. (how far way is Huk's first Adidas commercial you think?).
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
September 29 2011 11:20 GMT
#32426
Must have been one epic encoding job. I refuse to listen to the mp3. Come on JP, spoil me.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
September 29 2011 11:44 GMT
#32427
Im going to start punching puppies soon if we don't get a VOD. Do you want to be responsible for that, JP?
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
pycho
Profile Joined January 2011
Paraguay372 Posts
September 29 2011 11:52 GMT
#32428
jp stop playing wow and give us the vod plz
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
September 29 2011 11:54 GMT
#32429
jp stop playing wow and give us the vod plz


Replace WoW with the BF3 Beta that he has been tweeting about playing, and you are correct! :p

But in all seriousness, I have a feeling we won't see a VoD for this weeks episode, something pretty screwed up must of happened to the encoding. I recall him saying the raw footage was 94gb, which you can imagine doesn't take 10minutes to get online ^^.
"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
September 29 2011 12:44 GMT
#32430
I'm sad Where's the vod?
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
September 29 2011 12:51 GMT
#32431
You guys HAVE to talk about GSTL next week

Every single playoff series so far has been unbelievable with lots of angles, Prime the utter underdogs, MVP vs IM, lots of Toss ownage.....
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
September 29 2011 13:04 GMT
#32432
On September 29 2011 19:58 Krogan wrote:
Well one things are obvious by now, Sc2 is booming in the foreigner scene. Especially NA and is most likely going to far surpass Korea to the point where the best Koreans will be on foreigner teams not Korean once. And Koreans interest in esports seems to be dying. I think its interesting that people think flashes high salaries is somehow a reflection of the state of the BW industry. For me as an outsider to the BW scene it just looks like Kespa throwing money at a much bigger problem trying to stir some hype up from Flash's salaries and 3 teams being managed by the league itself is so bad I can't even imagine how it will work.

So yeah I'd have to say Artosis is right, right now the existence of both SC and SC2 in Korea is creating a situation where neither might end up succeeding.

But then again Americas dominance over the Sc2 scene was inevitable anyway as it is about to go mainstream over there, the money in the sport will be unlike anything we have ever seen in esports. (how far way is Huk's first Adidas commercial you think?).


I'm sorry to say that there are a few things wrong in your post,firstly I don't see how NA is going to surpass Korea at all and quite frankly right now its just wishful thinking on your part,Koreans are going to foreign teams because of the korean teams not being able to pay these players salaries or they want to travel to play somewhere else because SC2(and only SC2)is doing poorly in Korea.

Flash's high salary is not the reflection of the state of BW industry,its the fact that BW industry surviving another year of hardships of 3 teams disbanding and 5-6 new sponsors lining up to pick up the pieces,and what exactly is wrong with KeSPA managing the new teams?They are terrible match refs but not a terrible organisation,hell they are the best ESPORTS organisation to exist,and also you have to make money to throw money and KeSPA is non profit.

Right now it looks like BW is going to more stable than ever while SC2 might gain some popularity in Korea if the Rumors I heard are true.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 29 2011 13:06 GMT
#32433
Respect to Day9. Thank you.

There should be more strategy talk on SotG. This week was not yet what I was hoping for but listening to the pro's talk about strategy always makes my brain happy.
I had a good night of sleep.
slim_z
Profile Joined June 2011
21 Posts
September 29 2011 13:39 GMT
#32434
JP MC'fuckinDANEIL!! c'mon son
haxx
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria4 Posts
September 29 2011 13:42 GMT
#32435
I just wanna see it T_T
Woop Woop!
ForeverAzerG
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom101 Posts
September 29 2011 14:10 GMT
#32436
fuck sake JP.....
Xdivine
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada13 Posts
September 29 2011 14:27 GMT
#32437
JP, if you don't release the VOD soon, someone else will. *glare*

Nah I kid, keep up the good work :D
freezyy
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark2 Posts
September 29 2011 14:50 GMT
#32438
Haha most of the comments on blogspot are so mean, poor JP :D
meep meep
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 29 2011 14:57 GMT
#32439
I woke up yesterday morning preparing to watch the VOD while I did some work for the day before afternoon classes. It wasn't up, but JP was saying things on Twitter and speaking in tongues and what not. So today I chose to do the same thing, and was quite surprised to see that the VOD is still not up, but now JP has vanished into silence, leaving us only with the MP3.

BURN THE WITCH just kidding love you JP but seriously I'll listen to the mp3 but seriously I will miss the vod

Hope it's goooooood
Kyles92
Profile Joined October 2010
England183 Posts
September 29 2011 15:10 GMT
#32440
Sort it out already ffs.
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