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NeonSky
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States46 Posts
May 14 2011 02:13 GMT
#21181
So...I see people congratulating JP, but his twitter says he got fired? I'm confused on the situation, is he employed by MLG or not?
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
May 14 2011 02:23 GMT
#21182
On May 14 2011 11:13 NeonSky wrote:
So...I see people congratulating JP, but his twitter says he got fired? I'm confused on the situation, is he employed by MLG or not?


It's a joke man...
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
May 14 2011 02:26 GMT
#21183
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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 02:31:24
May 14 2011 02:30 GMT
#21184
IdrA is kinda exaggerating how good the players who switched were, none of them were ace of their team and from seeing their games and i believe dream league stats they didn't seem particularly more talented than any of the other high b-team/low a-team players (except maybe Nestea, but he's more of an old generation player to be compared to July/NaDa etc). I don't believe Intrigue was biased with the stats, he even says comparatively they were very good players and pointed out Nestea's 2v2 history.

Implying the MC was very good and that's why he got into the A-team in the first place is kinda misleading in particular; MBC is one team that gives a lot of the other players chances. Let's say Jaehoon, he's been having below average results for years... if he switched to SC2 it would be wrong to overly give him credit for being in the A-team, although he is a very good player in comparison to most.

But to be fair Intrigue's article was kinda pointless and inciting, it's bound to make people take a defensive stance in favour of the scene they are highly active in, i mean of course it is; Especially from people like IdrA, Incontrol and basically any top foreigner player because they directly were hindered from progressing to the top level because of how BW is structured and developed. So they've got their own biases in the matter too remember.

I think at the end of the day the article is just reflecting the fact that some hardcore fans who came from BW are just a bit bemused by the overhyping (also somewhat frustrated by nature of the game itself, even JP was pointing out a lot of the GSL games are basically not interesting lately). It's frustrating that we know there's RTS players who would do great against the current champions, but the entire foreigner scene is focused elsewhere. There's no reason to not watch and enjoy both. Maybe the next player we will see is Kwanro unless he's quit progaming entirely.

There doesn't need to be a total split with people getting defensive and taking a siege mentality on both sides.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 14 2011 03:06 GMT
#21185
On May 14 2011 11:30 infinity2k9 wrote:
IdrA is kinda exaggerating how good the players who switched were, none of them were ace of their team and from seeing their games and i believe dream league stats they didn't seem particularly more talented than any of the other high b-team/low a-team players (except maybe Nestea, but he's more of an old generation player to be compared to July/NaDa etc).


And Intrigue was GROSSLY exaggerating how "bad" sc2 pro-gamers are playing compared to top BW players.
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
May 14 2011 03:13 GMT
#21186
On May 14 2011 12:06 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 11:30 infinity2k9 wrote:
IdrA is kinda exaggerating how good the players who switched were, none of them were ace of their team and from seeing their games and i believe dream league stats they didn't seem particularly more talented than any of the other high b-team/low a-team players (except maybe Nestea, but he's more of an old generation player to be compared to July/NaDa etc).


And Intrigue was GROSSLY exaggerating how "bad" sc2 pro-gamers are playing compared to top BW players.

Out of all the things that one could possibly nitpick in intrigue's article, the fact that top BW play is leagues above top SC2 play is one unimpeachable truth.
d=(^_^)z
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 14 2011 03:16 GMT
#21187
On May 14 2011 12:13 elmizzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 12:06 Mailing wrote:
On May 14 2011 11:30 infinity2k9 wrote:
IdrA is kinda exaggerating how good the players who switched were, none of them were ace of their team and from seeing their games and i believe dream league stats they didn't seem particularly more talented than any of the other high b-team/low a-team players (except maybe Nestea, but he's more of an old generation player to be compared to July/NaDa etc).


And Intrigue was GROSSLY exaggerating how "bad" sc2 pro-gamers are playing compared to top BW players.

Out of all the things that one could possibly nitpick in intrigue's article, the fact that top BW play is leagues above top SC2 play is one unimpeachable truth.


This is not what i said AT ALL.

It doesn't matter if BW's play is amazing, saying SC2 players are terrible when comparing them to SC machines is dumb.
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GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
May 14 2011 04:30 GMT
#21188
@Kennigit is that dymatize Protien in the background?
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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
May 14 2011 05:08 GMT
#21189
Y didnt they mention HuK staying Code S?
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 14 2011 05:10 GMT
#21190
On May 14 2011 14:08 Ottoxlol wrote:
Y didnt they mention HuK staying Code S?

They didn't mention any up/down results, wasn't just HuK.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
May 14 2011 06:04 GMT
#21191
GEOFF!

ST_Ace didn't play against Filthy when he came down to Australia, in fact he dodged all of FXO. He beat a bunch of Australians that you don't know about (yoon and Light)

He did play me though. I took a game off him! That was great...
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Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
May 14 2011 07:04 GMT
#21192
On May 14 2011 12:16 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 12:13 elmizzt wrote:
On May 14 2011 12:06 Mailing wrote:
On May 14 2011 11:30 infinity2k9 wrote:
IdrA is kinda exaggerating how good the players who switched were, none of them were ace of their team and from seeing their games and i believe dream league stats they didn't seem particularly more talented than any of the other high b-team/low a-team players (except maybe Nestea, but he's more of an old generation player to be compared to July/NaDa etc).


And Intrigue was GROSSLY exaggerating how "bad" sc2 pro-gamers are playing compared to top BW players.

Out of all the things that one could possibly nitpick in intrigue's article, the fact that top BW play is leagues above top SC2 play is one unimpeachable truth.


This is not what i said AT ALL.

It doesn't matter if BW's play is amazing, saying SC2 players are terrible when comparing them to SC machines is dumb.

ignoring the "elephant in the room" is dumb. get it into your head that some hardcore bw fans are not impressed with the current top sc2 talent that are basically scrubs or past their prime in a far harder game.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 14 2011 07:07 GMT
#21193
Hahaha, reading this shit makes me laugh. Please, Idra tells the truth. He's one of the very very few foreigner who's actually has an actual insight into the foreigner scene. For everyone who thinks that Idra's insight misrepresents the Korean SC:BW pros that moved to SC2 is poor, are talking way out of place, who've never actually had the same experiences as Idra.
liftlift > tsm
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 14 2011 07:11 GMT
#21194
I don't understand how the fact/opinion that BW players are "better" than the current SC2 players somehow invalidates the game. Millions of people watch college football despite the players in the NFL being objectively better; what matters is that players are providing content good enough to be entertaining, not that they're providing something that's the absolute best possible. If you don't like it, fine, that's your prerogative, but there's no reason to shit on SC2 just because it's a different game. I think you'd be fucking stupid as hell to argue that in 12 years there won't be dominant players like Flash and Jaedong and whatnot in SC2, and it's just not fair to try to compare the games because SC2 is still in its infancy.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
May 14 2011 07:21 GMT
#21195
On May 14 2011 10:38 Sakarabu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 10:16 elmizzt wrote:
On May 14 2011 10:11 Sakarabu wrote:
Umm what happened with the retarded mods? Seriously? I've had genuine (yet controversial / critical ) posts being BANNED for 10 minutes for literally the only reason that I don't agree with the hosts, come on get a grip, People have differing opinions, get over it.
+ Show Spoiler +

Is it just cause Gunrun was on and he doesn't realise the format? I dunno, I like gunrun maybe it wasn't him.

Maybe it's because you do stuff like call mods retarded.


Sorry I don't suck dicks, I have my own opinions. Just because someone has been put in a position of authority doesn't mean they should abuse it and ban people because they have differing opinions. Because they are mods doesn't mean they are infalliable and shouldn't be questioned.

SotG has always been a place to voice your opinions and that has always been a draw, stifling opinions just ruins the fun of the show.

Just because someone has a keyboard and computer hooked up to TL means that he should behave like an idiot who can use insulting language whenever he likes. Everyone of us is part of this community and if YOU dont respect the others who are part of this community by using your foul language you should not expect any respect for you coming from the community.

Grow up and grow wise, leave or continue like an idiot are your three choices.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Popss
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden176 Posts
May 14 2011 07:37 GMT
#21196
I think Kennigit stated the real issue here:

"What would happend if these guys moved over?"

Until they do and we can finally settle this matter this discussion will continue to exist.

Flash dominating SC2 or not is not really the topic to discuss it's that lingering "what if"-feeling that BW fans have an issue with.

But then again if you never followed BW and just enjoy SC2 why care
.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
May 14 2011 07:43 GMT
#21197
Oh god, totally forgot about SotG today because of GSL. Can't wait to watch it!
"Jupiters c*ck!" - Quintus Lentulus Batiatus
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
May 14 2011 08:24 GMT
#21198
On May 14 2011 16:37 Popss wrote:
I think Kennigit stated the real issue here:

"What would happend if these guys moved over?"

Until they do and we can finally settle this matter this discussion will continue to exist.

Flash dominating SC2 or not is not really the topic to discuss it's that lingering "what if"-feeling that BW fans have an issue with.

But then again if you never followed BW and just enjoy SC2 why care


I fall under this category... makes me sad that I could have played/followed BW for all these years and just now got into SC2... better late than never I guess
champy
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 08:52:13
May 14 2011 08:51 GMT
#21199
Haha episode 38, just look at Kennigit the entire episode. He's focusing so hard, it's like he's doing a math test ^^
Please enter the above text in the field to prove you are not a robot.
bahl sofs tiil
Profile Joined December 2010
United States233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 09:23:22
May 14 2011 09:22 GMT
#21200
On May 14 2011 16:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Hahaha, reading this shit makes me laugh. Please, Idra tells the truth. He's one of the very very few foreigner who's actually has an actual insight into the foreigner scene. For everyone who thinks that Idra's insight misrepresents the Korean SC:BW pros that moved to SC2 is poor, are talking way out of place, who've never actually had the same experiences as Idra.


OK, but he isn't exactly the most unbiased person. In fact, I'd probably venture to say he's near the other end of the spectrum on a lot of subjects and this subject just happens to deal with him. He is one of the people that the article was talking about. If MC, Nestea and MVP are bad Brood War players who are only getting by because of a lack of competition, what does that make idra, both in Brood War and StarCraft 2? This viewpoint is a direct attack on him, even if he wasn't mentioned by name. These kinds of subjects are generally not those on which I would trust idra's judgment.
And isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean, all you get is one trick: rational thinking; but, when you're good and crazy, ooohoohoohoohoooo, the sky is the limit!
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