EPTBeat a maphacker (alt) - Page 2
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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Shauni
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On August 19 2010 02:36 ESCapeAPE wrote: I have an idea for an easy fix. What if players are temporarily banned ( 2 weeks? ) if given say 4 (random number) hack reports against them within one day or reach a maximum lifetime amount of what ever seems reasonable. Also make multiple reports from the same player NOT count more than once...so your asshole friend cant get you banned .... again just an idea and wouldn't be that hard to code assuming the reports are actually recorded  A fully automatic system for something like this wouldn't work. People would find out and report people they dislike for example. | ||
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kathode
United States265 Posts
On August 19 2010 02:36 ESCapeAPE wrote: I have an idea for an easy fix. What if players are temporarily banned ( 2 weeks? ) if given say 4 (random number) hack reports against them within one day or reach a maximum lifetime amount of what ever seems reasonable. Also make multiple reports from the same player NOT count more than once...so your asshole friend cant get you banned .... again just an idea and wouldn't be that hard to code assuming the reports are actually recorded What if you and three of your friends report someone you all don't like? I wish there was an easy system to get blizz to look at these reports but I doubt they really pay attention to all issues when there are lots of balance complaints and other issues | ||
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b33thov3n
Vietnam5 Posts
 ) . That behavior of these losers really kicks away all the fun of mine on playing Bnet :\ . Sorry if my english is hard to understand . | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On August 19 2010 02:36 ESCapeAPE wrote: I have an idea for an easy fix. What if players are temporarily banned ( 2 weeks? ) if given say 4 (random number) hack reports against them within one day or reach a maximum lifetime amount of what ever seems reasonable. Also make multiple reports from the same player NOT count more than once...so your asshole friend cant get you banned .... again just an idea and wouldn't be that hard to code assuming the reports are actually recorded no, it's a terrible idea i'll give u an example why: in sc1 i had good intuition. when i played games u know how often i got accused of hacks? like 20% of my freaking games. and there is no way I was the only one, plenty of players had better game sense than I did. using your idea relies on players egos not getting in the way, it requires that their reports actually be based on reliable information. but people's egos do get in the way, and lots of people are totally childish assholes. | ||
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
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te3l
Canada126 Posts
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ESCapeAPE
United States22 Posts
On August 19 2010 02:57 kathode wrote: What if you and three of your friends report someone you all don't like? I wish there was an easy system to get blizz to look at these reports but I doubt they really pay attention to all issues when there are lots of balance complaints and other issues Just to play devil advocate.... what if you and 3 of your friends say someone you don't like raped one of you.... even our justice system isn't perfect, but It seems to work well enough for people to use/maintain it as is. But yes you are absolutely correct no automated system for this would be flawless.... but not reviewing the reports is just as useful as not having a reporting feature. Maybe my example numbers should be increased from 4 to 40 reports in a day... if you had 39 friends willing to mess someone's day/week up; you WILL find a way to make their life miserable ps. god bless spell check in this forum EDIT: if you don't agree with having an automated review of reports, would you agree to get rid of the feature....as obviously no one is sifting through these reports by hand? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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ESCapeAPE
United States22 Posts
I think this is a better solution than what I purposed, only hard to quantify what is a reasonable number for "a large amount of reports". Maybe a percentage of games reported out of games played would be more reliable than a static number of reports before review? Something on the order of >25% would flag the player for review? | ||
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asdd
228 Posts
Edit: I can't access the replay of the guy that maphacked the OP but my guys also did an aggressive 3 rax 1 fact build and didn't attack (I bunkered up). Is your opponents name Artanis by any chance? | ||
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gamecreator
United States24 Posts
But if people are already cheating... why even try? | ||
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ESCapeAPE
United States22 Posts
people cheat at everything...think steroids in athletic sports... try not to let it get you down. Instead you should be pumped that you have a chance to school these hacking noobs, as the OP did !! Let them hack and move up in the ladder until they hit someone with impeccable macro/micro that will just pick them apart. Although VERY important; scouting is only one aspect of this complex strategy game and many other areas of focus, thinking of econ/military balance or even APM can still give a player a significant edge. So against a maphack, which I am assuming only low skill players are using, they get to save a few minerals and APM from scouting, and you may not be able to rely on hidden tech or drops as your nail in the coffin, but i expect a maphacker to have inferior macro from all of his "easy wins". maphackers are only human and can still be beaten !! | ||
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TheRealPaciFist
United States1049 Posts
On August 19 2010 03:03 travis wrote: no, it's a terrible idea i'll give u an example why: in sc1 i had good intuition. when i played games u know how often i got accused of hacks? like 20% of my freaking games. and there is no way I was the only one, plenty of players had better game sense than I did. using your idea relies on players egos not getting in the way, it requires that their reports actually be based on reliable information. but people's egos do get in the way, and lots of people are totally childish assholes. How about requiring that you look at the replay before you can report some1 of hacking? Then three reports lead to auo 1 week ban | ||
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tacrats
476 Posts
On August 19 2010 04:12 TheRealPaciFist wrote: How about requiring that you look at the replay before you can report some1 of hacking? Then three reports lead to auo 1 week ban u serious? i could look at a replay and 8x it then report the guy if he was BM and just say he was hacking so he gets banned. power in the players hands is going to be exploited. Thus you dont give the players the ability to influence anything. report it and let blizzard handle it. | ||
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Verator
United States283 Posts
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TheRealPaciFist
United States1049 Posts
On August 19 2010 04:18 tacrats wrote: u serious? i could look at a replay and 8x it then report the guy if he was BM and just say he was hacking so he gets banned. power in the players hands is going to be exploited. Thus you dont give the players the ability to influence anything. report it and let blizzard handle it. One report per person. Edit: you'd be able to report as many people as you like (after watching replays) but you can't report the same person multiple times for the same offense | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On August 19 2010 03:41 gamecreator wrote: If people are regularly hacking the game less than a month after release, that's pretty depressing. I originally placed in gold, worked my way up to platinum and am now ranked 10 there. I was really hoping to do what I can to learn the game more, focus on bettering my macro and micro, etc. and maybe get up to a low diamond eventually. But if people are already cheating... why even try? do you think tlo or idra let it stop them from practicing if they play some hackers on the ladder? hell naw, it might be annoying, but it's also just another challenge. beating a hacker is still practice. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On August 19 2010 04:12 TheRealPaciFist wrote: How about requiring that you look at the replay before you can report some1 of hacking? Then three reports lead to auo 1 week ban I don't think it's a good idea to be banning anyone without proof of hacking, period. | ||
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KillyKyll
United States267 Posts
On August 19 2010 02:36 ESCapeAPE wrote: I have an idea for an easy fix. What if players are temporarily banned ( 2 weeks? ) if given say 4 (random number) hack reports against them within one day or reach a maximum lifetime amount of what ever seems reasonable. Also make multiple reports from the same player NOT count more than once...so your asshole friend cant get you banned .... again just an idea and wouldn't be that hard to code assuming the reports are actually recorded Well, what if your asshole friend has 3 more friends? Or is in a clan. That won't work too well, because people will just group ban someone that isn't actually hacking. | ||
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