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IdrA, National ESL's IEM Cup #3 Issues - Page 4
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huameng
United States1133 Posts
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midway
United States123 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:44 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: If they do not state clearly which comments warranted the additional points it will still seem as if they're just trying to cover their asses from the initial comments posted by their admins which travis quoted in the last page. Post this on the other thread related to the same issue.... On August 17 2010 04:45 koshka wrote: [...flaming huh? right.... just tell us please if you don't do it THAT is creating a bigger issue of the situation because you don't look very good if you are not telling the whole story. just seems a bit shady Honestly you can think its shady or not, but I'd rather have you yelling at us to be "transparent" then creating flame wars between pro and anti-IdrA fans over what is said. The reality is that just like any sport when a person acts out of line they are dealt with in manner related to their behavior. The NBA doesn't tell the press what a player said in a basketball game when he gets a Technical Foul. When a player gets a yellow or red card in FIFA they don't even tell you what it was for. We are being transparent but also keeping privacy for the obvious necessary reasons. | ||
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ven
Germany332 Posts
but i dont see how he never planned to complete the games. maybe there is a misunderstanding of when he would be leaving korea for germany because of the different timezones or maybe he just wasnt aware that semifinal games were to be postponed but i really dont think he'd go through all the trouble never planning to finish it. however, both points were misrepresented in the esl announcement and considering that they'd must've spent quite a bit of time typing that up i don't see why they didn't investigate this properly. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:59 starcraft911 wrote: Penalty points for BM? Seriously? The winner should be the best at the game not the best at manners. ESL sounds like it's turning into a garbage organization. Is this a joke? if you personally insult someone you should be willing to sacrifice your entire tournament winning, welcome to the real world where actions have consequences. | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:57 Chill wrote: My problem is that we haven't seen any evidence of it. I have no doubt Idra insulted the admins; however, seeing if he did it unprovoked or after being told he was going to be disqualified are two wildly different situations. Considering ESL refuses to post the comments after being asked time and time again, I would tend to believe it was the latter. This, ESL needs more transparency in this situation they need to tell us what exactly he said or else it seems like they're still trying to cover their asses. They state players AND admins but I never saw him insult a player in this tournament... it seems like Chill is right here. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:59 starcraft911 wrote: Penalty points for BM? Seriously? The winner should be the best at the game not the best at manners. ESL sounds like it's turning into a garbage organization. No, that's perfectly acceptable. If there wasn't any restrictions regarding manners the e-sport scene would turn into a major shitfest. | ||
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huameng
United States1133 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:58 ven wrote: idra already admitted that he just didnt want his games to be casted and he also accepted the penalty points for that. that issue is pretty much done. but i dont see how he never planned to complete the games. maybe there is a misunderstanding of when he would be leaving for korea because of the timezones or maybe he just wasnt aware that semifinal games were to be postponed but i really dont think he'd go through all the trouble never planning to finish it. however, both points were misrepresented in the esl announcement and considering that they'd must've spent quite a bit of time typing that up i don't see why they didn't investigate this properly. The semifinals and finals were always scheduled to be played the day after the rest of the bracket-- that's how all the qualifiers are. Idra certainly knew that in advance, and it doesn't really matter since the 1st place prize is insignificant compared to the prize for top 4 | ||
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midway
United States123 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:59 starcraft911 wrote: Penalty points for BM? Seriously? The winner should be the best at the game not the best at manners. ESL sounds like it's turning into a garbage organization. Every sport in the World has rules against speaking negatively towards an official. FIFA, NBA, NFL, MLB - you name it all have rules related to player and officials interactions. In baseball you can be thrown out of a game if you touch an umpire. | ||
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RefusedAmen
Canada77 Posts
That's my boy. I would sugget to be better prepared when dealing with the cream of the crop. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:57 Chill wrote: My problem is that we haven't seen any evidence of it. I have no doubt Idra insulted the admins; however, seeing if he did it unprovoked or after being told he was going to be disqualified are two wildly different situations. Considering ESL refuses to post the comments after being asked time and time again, I would tend to believe it was the latter. I dont care if the admins were poking idra with a sharp stick, he shouldnt have insulted them. IdrA just keeps on behaving like a child and tbh it isnt doing anything good for the sc2 community. Would be sooo ironic if they insulted him first though, it'd be REALLY funny actually  | ||
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Baha
Spain64 Posts
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Al Bundy
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dyodyo
Philippines578 Posts
On August 17 2010 05:03 Deadlyfish wrote: I dont care if the admins were poking idra with a sharp stick, he shouldnt have insulted them. IdrA just keeps on behaving like a child and tbh it isnt doing anything good for the sc2 community. Would be sooo ironic if they insulted him first though, it'd be REALLY funny actually Really? You wouldn't care? I mean REALLY? | ||
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koshka
Germany181 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:58 midway wrote: Post this on the other thread related to the same issue.... Honestly you can think its shady or not, but I'd rather have you yelling at us to be "transparent" then creating flame wars between pro and anti-IdrA fans over what is said. The reality is that just like any sport when a person acts out of line they are dealt with in manner related to their behavior. The NBA doesn't tell the press what a player said in a basketball game when he gets a Technical Foul. When a player gets a yellow or red card in FIFA they don't even tell you what it was for. We are being transparent but also keeping privacy for the obvious necessary reasons. well this is not a standard penalty procedure. i'm not arguing about that it's unfair that he got pp etc. this is about when he got pp for what, and it's important to clear it as much as you possibly can because right now it looks like someone fucked up and instead of just admitting that and handling the situation that way you try to cover it up and act like some things just never ever happened. and since you mentioned fifa: in a situation like this the would try to clear things up, because angry fans are never a good thing | ||
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Grond
599 Posts
On August 17 2010 05:01 midway wrote: Every sport in the World has rules against speaking negatively towards an official. FIFA, NBA, NFL, MLB - you name it all have rules related to player and officials interactions. In baseball you can be thrown out of a game if you touch an umpire. What are the rules regarding not paying the players what they are owed? | ||
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
When you screw up, this is how you make an apology. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124327 Why the hell would you decide to have BigT be the official streamer? Dude creates drama out of nothing and is a terrible caster. People don't just randomly write "username" is a douche threads for no reason. | ||
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taintmachine
United States431 Posts
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FrogOfWar
Germany1406 Posts
On August 17 2010 05:00 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: This, ESL needs more transparency in this situation they need to tell us what exactly he said or else it seems like they're still trying to cover their asses. They state players AND admins but I never saw him insult a player in this tournament... it seems like Chill is right here. Hm, he called the admins "fucking idiots". (Two posts further down he confirms that the quotes are accurate.) So it wasn't after being disqualified, but after being asked to replay two games, so also not unprovoked. Plus at that point he was already annoyed because of the BigT story and probably because of latency. Oh yeah, and in the first game after he let BigT in, he brought up the unpaid bills thing in ingame chat, which was clearly a diss. (Please don't read this as hating/flaming IdrA; I'm not.) | ||
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