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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:34 Kexx wrote: I don't understand how anybody can blame the ESL, I'd like to see you in this spot. I blame the caster.  How can you blame the caster for disorganization within ESL? | ||
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zyzski
United States698 Posts
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ffz
United States490 Posts
Hopefully ESL actually pays him this time. | ||
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HCastorp
United States388 Posts
What I don't understand is how they decided that Idra would qualify despite not having played Bubba. Did both players agree to this arrangement? | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
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midway
United States123 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:31 Mateo0 wrote: Is there rules preventing the said caster (BigT) to go trolling the player(Idra) before asking to cast his games? We will be reviewing all parties involvement for future events. Just as we have with IdrA. | ||
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Naught
Denmark59 Posts
Are we talking about 1000$+ or 50 bucks? Does anyone know the actual amount? | ||
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-Valor-
United States283 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:40 Naught wrote: So.... Since IdrA keeps reminding all of us that ESL.EU owes him money, does anyone know the actual figure? Are we talking about 1000$+ or 50 bucks? Does anyone know the actual amount? I am curious about this as well. How much money does ESL.EU owe IdrA? | ||
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Origami
United States266 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:41 ValorS wrote: I am curious about this as well. How much money does ESL.EU owe IdrA? Probably talking about this (if the 7 months number is accurate) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101775 | ||
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holynorth
United States590 Posts
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Kexx
Germany240 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:39 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: They still need to state which comment(s) warranted the second penalty or else it still seems like they're jsut trying to cover their asses. I'm like the biggest IdrA fan, but seriously, do you really doubt that IdrA didn't say anything bm? | ||
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taLbuk
Madagascar1879 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:42 holynorth wrote: ESL needs to rework how they handle staff abuse. It's a poor policy to have such toleration. Other gaming organizations have a no-toleration policy and ban any member, no matter how popular and important they are as soon as they insult/abuse staff. How about abuse of the players by staff (i.e caster) | ||
Last Romantic
United States20665 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
edit: + Show Spoiler [clarification] + that some problem in a tournament would rise, and that it had to be Idra... | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:42 Kexx wrote: I'm like the biggest IdrA fan, but seriously, do you really doubt that IdrA didn't say anything bm? This isnt the issue, the issue is transparency I'm going to ignore the other thread and jsut post here. On August 17 2010 04:42 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: The problem is when you run a points system it must be transparent, people must be able to look at the each and every point and be aware of why it was awarded. If it becomes the common understanding that the admins just throw points around based on their emotions people dont follow the rules anyway because they expect to get points if they do or do not follow the rules. IT's important for them to state which comments warranted the penalty for this sense of transparency. If they do not state clearly which comments warranted the additional points it will still seem as if they're just trying to cover their asses from the initial comments posted by their admins which travis quoted in the last page. | ||
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eckolove
Mexico66 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:33 Tump wrote: Regardless or not of the rule, I think this is a bit over the top. Forcing IdrA to have spectators in game and cause latency is harmful to the players. It doesn't allow them to perform at peak levels. Not having a player play at his full potential is a bit dumb. It's against the very spirit of ESPORTS. I assume the ESL people running the show are gamers. What if you were in IdrA's shoes? Do you really think it's fair for a top tier player (mind you, the only westerner on a Korean progaming team) to be put at a disadvantage because you just want more hits for your website? Please, find another set of players to cast. Let progamers play at their full potential. and where is the interest of the sponsor? the company give money to the stream show his brand.. so no cast = no show for the company no show = no more money for Esports no money = GO BACK TO SC1 !! | ||
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
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Deleted User 47542
1484 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:44 Last Romantic wrote: Imposing avoidable latency on a progamer is really the organizers' fault. I have to side with IdrA here. Agreed, not to mention the fact that BigT should not be involved with tourneys. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On August 17 2010 04:45 eckolove wrote: and where is the interest of the sponsor? the company give money to the stream show his brand.. so no cast = no show for the company no show = no more money for Esports no money = GO BACK TO SC1 !! Razer sponsored the KotB, all games were casted in replay format. No games were casted live and it worked out fine. | ||
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vek
Australia936 Posts
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