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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 12:58:12
August 15 2010 12:57 GMT
#41
I have to say that those points would actually make the game more exciting from a observer perspective.
Especially for new people. The suggestions are great and this can atleast make a caster overall better and if you go over by these points and apply this to the high level / famous casters then you'd notice most of them actually already do this (at most of those points the OP mentioned).
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
August 15 2010 13:38 GMT
#42
Thanks for the read.

I remember having quite a hard time trying to be an observer in this year's WCG SC Finals for Malayisa (Unofficially lol) Thank god I had a partner so we pooled our newbie observer skills xD
I live by the LoL
Hrym
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway9 Posts
August 15 2010 14:30 GMT
#43
I agree with everytthing except healthbars. I get so annoyed when people DONT have health bars on. It is a big deal to see if he focus down the ones with lower healt or not. If he micros back the correct ones etc.
Are you human? No, just a very smart robot since i passed this test
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
August 15 2010 14:36 GMT
#44
Thanks for posting this. Hopefully future observers will read this...because there are many ones that are utterly hopeless right now.
howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
August 15 2010 16:36 GMT
#45
On August 15 2010 09:43 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2010 09:33 ExcessEnemy wrote:
Wow, erm, some solid points, but a lot of them I disagree with. You're quite picky when it comes to commentating. The style of commentary that you prefer is just boring. Watch Husky or Day[9]. They make bad jokes. And they're funny. Are you saying Tasteless is a bad commentator because of the panda bear guy? I really don't understand why commentators aren't allowed to make jokes, and why I have to see production at all times. I'd much rather see income. Basically, just because you think commentating should be boring doesn't mean everyone should. I would absolutely hate the kind of commentary you're talking about. Please don't speak for everyone.


Not sure you read this. This is about observing, pretty much entirely about observing and how to do it well.

If you can point out where I say that Commentators aren't allowed to make jokes and should be boring, then I will happily concede to you.


yeah you pretty much did.
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 15 2010 18:06 GMT
#46
Fantastic thread Flicky. Much respect.
Orangu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada198 Posts
August 15 2010 18:22 GMT
#47
On August 15 2010 23:30 BrokenTomato wrote:
I agree with everytthing except healthbars. I get so annoyed when people DONT have health bars on. It is a big deal to see if he focus down the ones with lower healt or not. If he micros back the correct ones etc.


I think having health bars on 100% of the time would be really annoying, the alt key and select feature is there for a reason, showing health when its important and not cluttering up the screen when its not.
THESE PRETZELS ARE MAKING ME THIRSTY!
Xiphiasar
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 19:34:13
August 15 2010 19:33 GMT
#48
*I see Player 1 drop another expansion on the minimap*

...3 minutes later, Caster: "Oh, looks like he's expanded."
Pokedude1013
Profile Joined August 2010
116 Posts
August 15 2010 19:38 GMT
#49
HOW DARE YOU USE THE DROP DOWN MENU TO SELECT TABS MEMORIZE HOTKEYZZZ.

TELL ME WHAT THE INCOME IS I DIDNT COME TO YOUR STREAM TO LET YOU TELL ME WHAT.

I think you might be a littttttle bit demanding
Get out
Magdain
Profile Joined June 2010
United States58 Posts
August 15 2010 19:43 GMT
#50
I can't count how many times a caster gets surprised by ridiculously easy-to-spot tech because they don't even look at player bases.

OH HEY WHERE DID THIS ULTRALISK COME FROM, WHAT A SURPRISE.

Good post; Even as a non-caster it's helpful to read these thoughts organized in one place. It will help me stay more aware when watching replays. Thank you Flicky.
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
August 15 2010 19:55 GMT
#51
That was the most entertaining thread I have ever read congrats to you mate :D
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
August 15 2010 20:00 GMT
#52
You sound a little harsh. Obviously this bothers you a lot. I suggest you watch less streams to avoid future heart problems.

On a mroe serious note, I'm sure I watch several of the streams you got your inspiration from. I agree with most of your points but I feel like you want a very statical approach. I like my commentators to fool around a bit, as long as they keep track of the important stuff. A matter of taste I guess.
We know nothing.
Melt
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland281 Posts
August 15 2010 20:20 GMT
#53
And don't alt-tab to your facebook profile where's pictures of your shirtless beerbelly!
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
August 15 2010 20:28 GMT
#54
One thing I've noticed is that observers who almost exclusively click the minimap to move the screen are the easiest to follow. Observing like you play by panning the screen around by moving the the edges feels really jerky and gives me motion sickness after awhile. I believe most pro korean observers use minimap clicking extensively.
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
August 16 2010 00:14 GMT
#55
I will certainly use this guide if I ever get round to doing any streaming.

I notice you put these skills to use on corinthos stream earlier.
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Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
August 16 2010 00:21 GMT
#56
no credit given for


?

:[
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
August 16 2010 00:27 GMT
#57
Completely agree about the healthbars. Hilarious guide, harsh but hilarious
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
torm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada274 Posts
August 16 2010 00:46 GMT
#58
I think the problem is that occasionally casters/observers feel like its their job to primarily ENJOY the game/replay, and they leave proper casting/observing as a secondary objective. No. What that means is you shouldn't be sitting there staring at the screen aimlessly during a firefight, you should be staring at the minimap, and/or at the production tab so you can immediately spot any new interesting developments and be prepared to either immediately direct the viewers to them, or direct the viewers to them as soon as the battle winds down.
Azile
Profile Joined March 2010
United States339 Posts
August 16 2010 02:04 GMT
#59
BigT needs to read this.

He's guilty of just about every single thing you mentioned and it's annoying as shit and very unprofessional.
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
August 16 2010 04:29 GMT
#60
Not showing every bit of information all the time is part of what makes some casted games more exciting.

What's more interesting? "Oh, he's got a fleet beacon and it doesn't look like the other player has any way of dealing with it. Guess we know who's going to win." or "HOLY SHIT, WHERE DID THAT MOTHERSHIP COME FROM?"

I mean, SC2 is a spectator's sport. If you're just watching to get better, you can always watch replays.
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