First Starcraft 2 'dischack' ? - Page 16

On August 03 2010 05:02 alcapowned wrote:
Erm... can anyone explain to me why in the 3rd replay the "Defeat!" is missing whereas in the 2nd replay you can clearly see it? I would hate to join thousands of trolls who yell "SHOOPEEDD" at every screenshot they see but an altered screenshot(I think) and a replay that conveniently isn't there, doesn't help me to believe in this hack.

edit:small typo

On August 01 2010 23:58 AmstAff wrote:


yeah but blizzard cant close a battle.net account, because the user has other games on that account too.
it wouldnt be okay anyway, i mea you hack in sc2 and you get your sc1 and wc3 and wow accounts removed/locked? that cant be right.
blizzard should just remove his sc2 license on his b.net iD and GG NO RE!

On August 03 2010 05:48 Lightspeed wrote:


The issue is not that he doesn't get banned right away (although the fact that he didn't points to other issues down the road), the issue is that this is possible at all a couple of days after release. It is proof that Blizzards attempt at creating a hack and cheat free environment with Battle.net 2.0, if they were ever serious about it, failed miserably. They went to great lengths to make sure using their servers and passing all client traffic through their infrastructure is mandatory (no LAN play), but apparently fail at doing some basic sanitizing of traffic when it passes their servers. Apparently the creator of the hack is able to do such on a per-client basis if his claim of having drop protection is true. Apparently Blizzards is completely oblivious to the issue and now has the janitor analyzing network dumps of the reported games (oh wait, Blizzard got our ok to monitor everything on battle.net just for the Massive inc deal, they have no network dumps). Apparently Blizzard's anti-hack measure begins and ends with some obscure paragraph in the bnet TOS, telling everyone to be a good boy, mkay.

It's 2010, and it is very well possible to create complex IT systems that are inherently secure and manipulation proof to a great extend, as several OSS projects prove. All the theories are out there. The fact that exploits for SC2 appeared so soon just points to many, many more exploits waiting to be discovered down the road.

At least I can still import my facebook friends, awesome. Classical case of not getting priorities right, as Activision Blizzard have shown over and over again now. It's just sad

On August 02 2010 01:23 Go0g3n wrote:


It's fun. Drophacking is as much fun to do as is to read about and watch people go crazy about it, also throwing extra work to admins and in a way helping them in pointing out weak spots, - iCC thrives on that (and become popular because of that).

Maphacking is a lot of fun, not only you actually train your timings and minimap awareness (big time), but also because you have that map security, - that you're in control at any point in time.

On August 02 2010 03:23 Necrosjef wrote:
Sad to see this kinda thing happening so early into release.

Only Blizzard to blame though, if they spent more time making battlenet 2.0 better and less time integrating it with facebook we wouldn't be in this situation.

On August 03 2010 05:51 hinnolinn wrote:


I would say it's likely that the second picture has the "Defeat" message because it was actually a game that EllenPage played, whereas, the third picture was of two different characters that played, so EllenPage had not lost that game.

On August 03 2010 05:47 Takkara wrote:


Go find the quote yourself but the man has zero losses after like 50 games, all ending in under 1 minute. That's hard to shoop.

On August 02 2010 05:44 TheYango wrote:

You say that like you've never used ICCup Launcher or BWHF for Brood War.


Firing the 2 guys who worked on Facebook integration doesn't magically create 2 more guys to work on security and balance. FB integration was probably the product of 2 guys who work on the WoW Armory who didn't have anything better to do for a few days--and don't have the expertise for any of those other tasks.

On August 03 2010 06:06 alcapowned wrote:


Ah that was actually good and I'm assuming to be honestly said. I just checked up on it however and it would seem that when you see someone elses post-game info, it lists which "team" won even if there was no team. Ie If you checked my profile(somehow) it would say "Team 1 won!" or etc

so... my question still stands

On August 03 2010 06:00 Takkara wrote:


[...]Critical bugs and errors get into software all the time. They get patched once they're found. As soon as they have a patch that can solve this particular hack, expect it to be applied.[...]

PanzerDragoon wrote:
Dealing with hacks is always reactionary. Just too many people looking for exploits for you to effectively ever prevent all of them =\

On August 03 2010 06:23 Lightspeed wrote:




And this is, imho, the misconception right there. The Starcraft 2 game client is vulnerable to an apparently very simple exploit. If it took someone who first had to reverse engineer everything (the network communication protocol and memory layout of the game data / functions at least) only a couple of days/weeks/months to find this exploit, it should have taken someone with full access to the source and description of the protocol a couple of hours/days at worst. It just shows that no rigorous testing was done during development. One would think that after the hackfests that previous b.net titles were, Blizzard would be a bit more aware. Apparently not

On August 03 2010 06:23 Lightspeed wrote:




And this is, imho, the misconception right there. The Starcraft 2 game client is vulnerable to an apparently very simple exploit. If it took someone who first had to reverse engineer everything (the network communication protocol and memory layout of the game data / functions at least) only a couple of days/weeks/months to find this exploit, it should have taken someone with full access to the source and description of the protocol a couple of hours/days at worst. It just shows that no rigorous testing was done during development. One would think that after the hackfests that previous b.net titles were, Blizzard would be a bit more aware. Apparently not

On August 03 2010 06:30 pzea469 wrote:


well hackers had beta to work on and practice so that they would get it right on release. Many hackers i believe even made the hacks and then didnt use them until release so that blizzard wouldnt be able to stop them until later. Its completely normal for hacks to be in a game, and blizz will try to prevent them the best they can.

On August 03 2010 06:46 alcapowned wrote:
Anyway, some poor photoshopped thing i made using paint(i'm really bad at photoshopping, i used crop and that color filler + paint bucket tool) so if you zoom in you'll notice the bars for the build order vary in color(paint i guess has bad color shading)

Anyay... enjoy, it at least is better than the 3rd screenshot in regards to it says "Team 1 won!" or "Team 2 won!" instead of nothing being there :o



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On August 03 2010 06:50 Jinsin5 wrote:


You still trying to argue that he didn't hack or just trying to prove that pictures can be altered? Either way you are arguing a pointless topic, he hacks, the pictures are not altered. Read the thread and don't come barging into a 16 page thread demanding that the last 14 pages be summarized for your in a quote for your convenience because you are too lazy to read the entire thread.

On August 03 2010 06:46 alcapowned wrote:
Anyway, some poor photoshopped thing i made using paint(i'm really bad at photoshopping, i used crop and that color filler + paint bucket tool) so if you zoom in you'll notice the bars for the build order vary in color(paint i guess has bad color shading)

Anyay... enjoy, it at least is better than the 3rd screenshot in regards to it says "Team 1 won!" or "Team 2 won!" instead of nothing being there :o
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