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Oowba
Australia79 Posts
On June 13 2010 14:52 Acies wrote: From Perth Singapore ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/845715126.png) Boston ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/845715773.png) LA,, I assume this is where US west is located? ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/845716317.png) San Francisco ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/845718120.png) My isp seems to be supporting blizz on this one. Your in WA thats 2723 kilometers further away from the US then the rest of us and your also closer the SEA and yet your ping to the US is with in 50 of SEA | ||
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DeCoup
Australia1933 Posts
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Acies
Australia196 Posts
On June 13 2010 15:30 Oowba wrote: Your in WA thats 2723 kilometers further away from the US then the rest of us and your also closer the SEA and yet your ping to the US is with in 50 of SEA WA internet gets routed through Sydney so I don't see the distance factor playing in at all. Also 50ms is very significant when gaming. | ||
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
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Acies
Australia196 Posts
On June 13 2010 15:59 Solitude wrote: Where is Europe's server? France | ||
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Manaldski
229 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i49.tinypic.com/24pl2e1.png) Pings to 2 SG/MY hosting companies from Perth. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
Tracing route to www.qala.com.sg [210.193.3.9] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 1-1-190-190.cab.prima.net.ar [190.190.1.1] 2 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms nexthop.vic.iinet.net.au [203.55.229.88] 3 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms gi1-6.mel-pipe-bdr1.iinet.net.au [203.215.6.56] 4 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms gi1-0-5.syd-ult-core1.iinet.net.au [203.215.20.1 02] 5 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms te13-0-0.syd-mas-core1.iinet.net.au [203.215.20. 149] 6 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms 34023.sydp06.cu.reach.com [134.159.160.57] 7 179 ms 178 ms 179 ms i-10-0-0.wil-core02.bx.reach.com [202.84.140.102 ] 8 176 ms 176 ms 175 ms i-1-1.tlot03.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.234] 9 178 ms 177 ms 177 ms pacnet.com.any2ix.coresite.com [206.223.143.138] 10 213 ms 213 ms 214 ms gi6-0-0.cr1.nrt1.asianetcom.net [202.147.61.166] 11 271 ms 271 ms 271 ms po13-0.gw2.sin1.asianetcom.net [202.147.32.89] 12 268 ms 269 ms 268 ms M1C-0001.gw2.sin1.asianetcom.net [203.192.169.20 6] 13 247 ms 246 ms 247 ms ge-cr01-sng-qala.com.sg [203.211.159.20] 14 249 ms 247 ms 247 ms ge-csw-v21.alpha012.qala.com.sg [203.211.159.34] 15 246 ms 246 ms 247 ms bb3una9.qala.com.sg [210.193.3.9] Trace complete. Are you sure you are actually going via Sydney? You might be taking copper via Darwin or something. Otherwise there is no way Perth -> Singapore is faster than Mel -> Singapore. | ||
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vT.sOel
122 Posts
mates! XD | ||
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Manaldski
229 Posts
On June 13 2010 16:19 sluggaslamoo wrote: Are you sure you are actually going via Sydney? You might be taking copper via Darwin or something. Otherwise there is no way Perth -> Singapore is faster than Mel -> Singapore. No, the route goes direct from Perth to Singapore, there is a cable system connecting Perth to MY/SG, here are the cable systems: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/files/images/080701_cables.jpg) Seems like traffic from the East Coast is getting routed through the long east cable system and not through Perth with resulting pings about the same as to L.A. | ||
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Acies
Australia196 Posts
On June 13 2010 16:33 Manaldski wrote: No, the route goes direct from Perth to Singapore, there is a cable system connecting Perth to MY/SG, here are the cable systems: + Show Spoiler + Seems like traffic from the East Coast is getting routed through the long east cable system and not through Perth with resulting pings about the same as to L.A. I stand corrected. Although your map is only of international routing. Would be usefull to see a domestic map and get some info on which isps are routing long ways and which are taking the shortcuts. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
C:\Documents and Settings\sudo>tracert 12.129.225.21 Tracing route to 12-129-225-21.attens.net [12.129.225.21] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 1-1-190-190.cab.prima.net.ar [190.190.1.1] 2 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms nexthop.vic.iinet.net.au [203.55.229.88] 3 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms gi1-5.mel-pipe-bdr2.iinet.net.au [203.215.6.52] 4 27 ms 27 ms 28 ms gi15-1-4.syd-mas-core1.iinet.net.au [203.215.20. 76] 5 29 ms 28 ms 28 ms te13-1-0.syd-ult-core1.iinet.net.au [203.215.20. 148] 6 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms ten-0-1-0.bdr02.syd01.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.1 93.237] 7 206 ms 207 ms 206 ms ge-0-2-4-134.cor02.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.3 1.192.74] 8 207 ms 206 ms 206 ms ge-0-0-0-136.bdr01.sjc02.ca.VOCUS.net.au [114.31 .192.77] 9 208 ms 207 ms 208 ms 12.126.40.41 10 218 ms 218 ms 217 ms cr1.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.137.58] 11 215 ms 215 ms 214 ms cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.3.122] 12 216 ms 216 ms 217 ms cr83.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.30.109] 13 217 ms 217 ms 217 ms gar5.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.25] 14 214 ms 214 ms 215 ms 12.122.255.74 15 218 ms 217 ms 217 ms mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.12 9.193.242] (This is supposed to be the last stop) When doing a traceroute to servers in Los Angeles, the last hop should be one of the following: * 12.129.193.242 * 12.129.193.246 Singapore: 247ms Blackrock (WoW PvP) Los Angeles:217ms (+- 1). That's about 30ms faster to the Blizzard server which is what you would expect, in fact the total latency is 3ms off what I predicted, and 11ms from the end of the cable to the actual server which is 9ms out of my prediction.  The problem has nothing to do with the distance, it is the quality of the network, which is what I said earlier. EDIT: On June 13 2010 16:33 Manaldski wrote: No, the route goes direct from Perth to Singapore, there is a cable system connecting Perth to MY/SG, here are the cable systems: + Show Spoiler + Seems like traffic from the East Coast is getting routed through the long east cable system and not through Perth with resulting pings about the same as to L.A. Where is the cable from perth to singapore? I don't see it.  EDIT: Found it, its the little white line that is almost impossible to see. Also it would be a lot faster to go via the long east cable system than go via Perth Here is the southern cross cable. This is the cable that is used to go to LA. ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/Southern_Cross_Cable_route.svg/375px-Southern_Cross_Cable_route.svg.png) | ||
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Bentie
Australia18 Posts
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
Also I'm very happy there is going to be a SEA server, playing with pings like I used to get in WoW and War3 would make me sad. Region locking is just plain greedy and unfair by Blizzard, but I don't think it will really affect me. Heck, who wants to play with americans over asians anyway?  | ||
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MoooN1
Germany128 Posts
espaccialy europe and na | ||
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Manaldski
229 Posts
On June 13 2010 16:44 sluggaslamoo wrote: The problem has nothing to do with the distance, it is the quality of the network, which is what I said earlier. Also it would be a lot faster to go via the long east cable system than go via Perth No, the network quality is fine, your routing is bad, which has nothing to do with the network quality. Try any of these and see if you can get better results: + Show Spoiler + I tested the pings from a few AUS ISPs and its about 150ms from Sydney to Singapore via the long cable systems (which is with 10-15ms lower then to L.A.) , also from Sydney to Singapore via Melbourne->Adelaide->Perth is 100ms, which will give you about 88ms ping from Melbourne to Perth (since Syd->Melb is 12ms) which compared to 168ms to L.A. is almost half the latency. About which ISPs route via Perth, well some do some destinations and some do other destinations and some dont do any, you have to test it. But Optus (which is owned by SingTel, the Singapore Telecom) and AARNet (the university network) routed all of the above destinations via Perth. Go to AARNet's web site and test it for yourself: http://lg.aarnet.edu.au/cgi-bin/lg telnet://route-views.optus.net.au/ <--- Optus Route Server Of course this doesnt mean you will get routed to through the same paths as shown on their route server. | ||
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Gretch
Australia27 Posts
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
it's tough enough to get my friends to play SC2 without also needing to explain to them they need to buy the USA copy of the game or whatever. | ||
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skipgamer
Australia701 Posts
Aus-1 (and later BoredAussies) was made for a reason. | ||
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Ctoan
Australia75 Posts
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/845845928.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/845847174.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/845850446.png) i should be worried i think. im in syd less than 600m from my exchange as well | ||
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