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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-13 03:27:05
June 13 2010 03:26 GMT
#41
On June 13 2010 12:25 Manaldski wrote:
The USA Beta server was located in Los Angeles and the ping from Sydney to L.A is 140-150ms, as can be seen here:

http://ipstats.globalcrossing.net/dotcom/link8r.shtml?src=LAX1&mode=r2r&dst=RSE1&type=ping

I dont understand how people get 300ms+ latency to these, i suppose bad infrastructure adds a lot of lag up to the gateway points.


Because you are avoiding all the hops between melbourne (or another city) to sydney, and the end-point of the Southern Cross Cable to the actual server.
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ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
June 13 2010 03:27 GMT
#42
I don't think pinging Mandaue City was a good idea.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
June 13 2010 03:27 GMT
#43
I'm going to go wherever my EB pre-order takes me .

After that if the majority of the tournaments are on the US server, or there are a lot of US tournaments that are playable (timezone etc), ill probably just buy the game again, but i can see this getting very expensive with 2 expansions planned T-T.
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schiznak
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia258 Posts
June 13 2010 03:28 GMT
#44
On June 13 2010 12:21 Vinnesta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 12:08 Kegs.aus wrote:
On June 13 2010 11:42 Skeyser wrote:
Pretty sure pingtest don't use the same servers as Blizzard, so what does this test proves?


The tests prove nothing...but some IPs will route through the USA so it is impossible for some people to achieve a lower ping on a SEA server....i know my ISP does direct so i WILL get a lower ping....

But idc, why the fuck would I want to play with south east asians? I dont know any South East Asians and with no chat rooms and few english speakers I will probably never get to know any anyway,

the US servers are WAY more compatible with Australians than friggin South East Asian ones.....

Half the people who play this game regardless of where they are from will want to play on the US servers..


Almost all South East Asians are able to speak English, and most choose to do so online. You only have to look at the "Oceanic" servers on WoW to know that the Australian community can fit in the SEA community, and vice versa, very well in terms of time, language and location.

Some ISPs in Australia connect through Singapore to the fibre optic cables that cross the Pacific, hence the lower latency that some Australians might get.



Personally speaking, i was in a Singaporean WoW guild for a while, and while most of them could speak english competently as a second language, guild chat was mostly in malaysian and i could always feel a communication barrier when talking to anyone. (As a side note a few of my former guildies thought all white people smell awful )
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Manaldski
Profile Joined January 2004
229 Posts
June 13 2010 03:29 GMT
#45
On June 13 2010 12:26 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Because you are avoiding all the hops between melbourne (or another city) to sydney, and the end-point of the Southern Cross Cable to the actual server.


Do you understand that the latency from Melbourne to Sydney is 4ms and from Los Angeles to the Blizzard server in L.A will be 0-1ms?
FuryX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia495 Posts
June 13 2010 03:35 GMT
#46
I hate what blizzard did here..
PressureTested
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia83 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-13 03:37:44
June 13 2010 03:36 GMT
#47
i think ur missing the point WHY we were moved to the SE asia server. they think the additional amount of people on the US server from Oceania will lag up the US servers too much for the US players. as an australian i'm not happy about this reason either, but this is what blizzard said...
You can't teach that
ecifircas
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-13 03:41:49
June 13 2010 03:39 GMT
#48
I'm sorry but pinging a few asian sites to american sites over 1(tpg) internet connection concludes crap.

Every isp uses different international transit and amount of bandwidth, as well as the fact we don't know blizzard are actually hosting the servers. I can tell you all ISP's have alot better links to the US then they do to Asia.

Only time can tell what the latency will be like.
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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
June 13 2010 03:40 GMT
#49
This is really one of the issues I have right now. I think my ISP connection works better with US rather than MY, SG and especially China (when I play at garena oh God, connection literally sucks ass).

Now if only I can connect to Koreans that would be much better except I'll be in the Bronze league in that server lolz
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
June 13 2010 03:42 GMT
#50
You poor Australians, being torn apart with this SEA/US thing. We'll as an American, we welcome you to our servers with warm hearts and big hugs :D...we love you down under.




Just kidding, we just love your kangaroos and girls. You are still welcome though.
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Qiin
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia102 Posts
June 13 2010 03:42 GMT
#51
Simply PINGING any server in SEA isnt very acurate.

For example if you ping a SG website you will probably get a ping of 200-300, however if you join a singaporean VENT SERVER i can get a ms of 100-150

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ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
June 13 2010 03:43 GMT
#52
On June 13 2010 12:40 Licmyobelisk wrote:
This is really one of the issues I have right now. I think my ISP connection works better with US rather than MY, SG and especially China (when I play at garena oh God, connection literally sucks ass).

Now if only I can connect to Koreans that would be much better except I'll be in the Bronze league in that server lolz

I always play with the Malaysians/Singaporeans with very good ping. I think Chinese internet is just bad.
Baxter
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia45 Posts
June 13 2010 03:44 GMT
#53
I have a better plan! IM A PLAY ON THE UK SERVER!!! -.-''
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backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
June 13 2010 03:44 GMT
#54
On June 13 2010 12:28 schiznak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 12:21 Vinnesta wrote:
On June 13 2010 12:08 Kegs.aus wrote:
On June 13 2010 11:42 Skeyser wrote:
Pretty sure pingtest don't use the same servers as Blizzard, so what does this test proves?


The tests prove nothing...but some IPs will route through the USA so it is impossible for some people to achieve a lower ping on a SEA server....i know my ISP does direct so i WILL get a lower ping....

But idc, why the fuck would I want to play with south east asians? I dont know any South East Asians and with no chat rooms and few english speakers I will probably never get to know any anyway,

the US servers are WAY more compatible with Australians than friggin South East Asian ones.....

Half the people who play this game regardless of where they are from will want to play on the US servers..


Almost all South East Asians are able to speak English, and most choose to do so online. You only have to look at the "Oceanic" servers on WoW to know that the Australian community can fit in the SEA community, and vice versa, very well in terms of time, language and location.

Some ISPs in Australia connect through Singapore to the fibre optic cables that cross the Pacific, hence the lower latency that some Australians might get.



Personally speaking, i was in a Singaporean WoW guild for a while, and while most of them could speak english competently as a second language, guild chat was mostly in malaysian and i could always feel a communication barrier when talking to anyone. (As a side note a few of my former guildies thought all white people smell awful )


what language do singaporeans speak? cantonese or mandarin o.O? and i am sure it is so slang so aussies must be able to understand some what... like xiao la xD
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
June 13 2010 03:44 GMT
#55
On June 13 2010 12:43 lolaloc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 12:40 Licmyobelisk wrote:
This is really one of the issues I have right now. I think my ISP connection works better with US rather than MY, SG and especially China (when I play at garena oh God, connection literally sucks ass).

Now if only I can connect to Koreans that would be much better except I'll be in the Bronze league in that server lolz

I always play with the Malaysians/Singaporeans with very good ping. I think Chinese internet is just bad.



<3 you brotha :D
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
dbddbddb
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore969 Posts
June 13 2010 03:50 GMT
#56
On June 13 2010 12:44 backtoback wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 12:28 schiznak wrote:
On June 13 2010 12:21 Vinnesta wrote:
On June 13 2010 12:08 Kegs.aus wrote:
On June 13 2010 11:42 Skeyser wrote:
Pretty sure pingtest don't use the same servers as Blizzard, so what does this test proves?


The tests prove nothing...but some IPs will route through the USA so it is impossible for some people to achieve a lower ping on a SEA server....i know my ISP does direct so i WILL get a lower ping....

But idc, why the fuck would I want to play with south east asians? I dont know any South East Asians and with no chat rooms and few english speakers I will probably never get to know any anyway,

the US servers are WAY more compatible with Australians than friggin South East Asian ones.....

Half the people who play this game regardless of where they are from will want to play on the US servers..


Almost all South East Asians are able to speak English, and most choose to do so online. You only have to look at the "Oceanic" servers on WoW to know that the Australian community can fit in the SEA community, and vice versa, very well in terms of time, language and location.

Some ISPs in Australia connect through Singapore to the fibre optic cables that cross the Pacific, hence the lower latency that some Australians might get.



Personally speaking, i was in a Singaporean WoW guild for a while, and while most of them could speak english competently as a second language, guild chat was mostly in malaysian and i could always feel a communication barrier when talking to anyone. (As a side note a few of my former guildies thought all white people smell awful )


what language do singaporeans speak? cantonese or mandarin o.O? and i am sure it is so slang so aussies must be able to understand some what... like xiao la xD


LOL yeah some singaporeans speak in slang but its still understandable. but anyways pretty much everyone in singapore speaks in english. i'm probably going to get the US version anyway even though I live in singapore because 90% of the people in SEA are probably non-english speakers
Vinnesta
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore285 Posts
June 13 2010 03:53 GMT
#57
On June 13 2010 12:44 backtoback wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 12:28 schiznak wrote:
On June 13 2010 12:21 Vinnesta wrote:
On June 13 2010 12:08 Kegs.aus wrote:
On June 13 2010 11:42 Skeyser wrote:
Pretty sure pingtest don't use the same servers as Blizzard, so what does this test proves?


The tests prove nothing...but some IPs will route through the USA so it is impossible for some people to achieve a lower ping on a SEA server....i know my ISP does direct so i WILL get a lower ping....

But idc, why the fuck would I want to play with south east asians? I dont know any South East Asians and with no chat rooms and few english speakers I will probably never get to know any anyway,

the US servers are WAY more compatible with Australians than friggin South East Asian ones.....

Half the people who play this game regardless of where they are from will want to play on the US servers..


Almost all South East Asians are able to speak English, and most choose to do so online. You only have to look at the "Oceanic" servers on WoW to know that the Australian community can fit in the SEA community, and vice versa, very well in terms of time, language and location.

Some ISPs in Australia connect through Singapore to the fibre optic cables that cross the Pacific, hence the lower latency that some Australians might get.



Personally speaking, i was in a Singaporean WoW guild for a while, and while most of them could speak english competently as a second language, guild chat was mostly in malaysian and i could always feel a communication barrier when talking to anyone. (As a side note a few of my former guildies thought all white people smell awful )


what language do singaporeans speak? cantonese or mandarin o.O? and i am sure it is so slang so aussies must be able to understand some what... like xiao la xD



Singaporeans speak English, Mandarin, Malay, Tamil, Cantonese, Hokkien, Teochew, etc. Mix them all and its called Singlish (Singapore English)! While it may be difficult following conversations of a group of Singaporeans, we have no problem understanding you or being understood, when necessary
Same difference is not an oxymoron!
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
June 13 2010 03:53 GMT
#58
You people will see a lot of "putang ina mo" from the Filipinos LOL!
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Mizzet
Profile Joined June 2010
Singapore47 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-13 04:01:29
June 13 2010 04:00 GMT
#59
On June 13 2010 11:35 DJhozy wrote:
btw, according to what i read from singaporean gaming forums, we do have quite a handful of people buying the US version so i guess that SEA servers will be very empty when sc2 goes live.


Heh this is true lol, it's going to be annoying having some of my friends who don't know better locking themselves in the SEA servers.
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
June 13 2010 04:01 GMT
#60
Hahaha maybe they just hate ausies? This should really be adressed.
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