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StarStruck
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pettter
Sweden1032 Posts
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Koffiegast
Netherlands346 Posts
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monkh
United Kingdom568 Posts
now come to think of it do u think the Kespa ordeal had anythink to do with Activision? I bet it does! | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
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DrBoo
Canada1177 Posts
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Perfect Balance
Norway131 Posts
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Hartigan
United Kingdom12 Posts
On May 30 2010 07:46 Slow Motion wrote: You're forgetting the other option we have in a capitalist society, which is to hurt their wallets by giving them as much bad press as possible. It's been proven to work as long as we can organize and show solidarity. Yes, stirring up some bad publicity would be a great way to state our point. It would be interesting to submit all this controversy to a news agency and see if it picks up any interest, as I for one would think that the novelty of a fanbase might actually make a decent article if it was sufficiently controversial. Activision-Blizzard is big enough, and frankly based on the first page, bad enough. As for shorting the stock or hedging it in any way, I simply dont have enough leverage to make any effective play at doing that, but if someone does, go for it. I'd rather take the legal avenue on this one to be honest. Oh and one might also want to avoid saying too wrongly about Kotdick et al less you find yourself on the wrong end of a slander suit. Like he said, he'll pay the lawyers more than the developers. | ||
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mkfk1
United Kingdom153 Posts
If sc2 turns out to be this useless, than hello hamchi or some other pirate server. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11077 Posts
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iammaru
Canada38 Posts
On May 30 2010 08:14 Perfect Balance wrote: This thread goes a long way towards portraying these men as evil, gentile, "anglo" men. That is the stereotype, of course. The reality is quite different. Start looking into these companies who only care about getting as rich as possible, and you'll start to discover a pattern. Here are some pictures of the people at the top; the people responsible. They don't exactly look like swedes to me. There's a common denominator here.. You're racist. | ||
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
On May 30 2010 08:14 Perfect Balance wrote: This thread goes a long way towards portraying these men as evil, gentile, "anglo" men. That is the stereotype, of course. The reality is quite different. Start looking into these companies who only care about getting as rich as possible, and you'll start to discover a pattern. Here are some pictures of the people at the top; the people responsible. They don't exactly look like swedes to me. There's a common denominator here.. This is precisely why I dislike any threads focusing on Bobby Kotick or Activision in general. It always follows the same pattern: - Talk about how much of a dick Bobby Kotick is - Compile long list of wrongdoings that are unrelated to Blizzard at all - Accuse Blizzard of being corrupted for offering 100% optional services that nobody has to pay for - Start bringing up Jewish conspiracies and inject anti-Semitism in an attempt to demonize Mike Morhaime and Blizzard in general Seriously, I hate Kotick as much as the next person, but these threads really go into a bad direction. This certainly won't change Blizzard's opinions or decisions at all, and only bring out the absolute worst in gamers. It reflects badly on all of us when you start injecting anti-Semitism over a video game. | ||
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Perfect Balance
Norway131 Posts
On May 30 2010 08:17 Sabu113 wrote: Do you really want to bring a racial element into this? You sound like you're making a threat. Hahaha. It's amazing how, in the politically correct world you americans live in, if ethnic iranians occupied ALL of your media and video game companies tomorrow, you wouldn't be able to point it out for fear of being labeled a "raciss". If those iranian CEO's also donated to causes that hurt your foreign policy and affected elections in their favor, you wouldn't be able to point it out. You're wrong, it's not about racial elements at all, it's about the fact that all of these companies are dominated by a group that constitutes less than 2% of the total american population. It's amazing to me how so few americans realize this, and see WHY companies turn into money-making schemes when people of this group start inhabiting the positions of chairman and CEO. Michael Morhaime belongs to this group. So does the CEO of Activision, and all the big video game companies (EA, Bethesda, etc), except Valve. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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commanderchobo
Canada53 Posts
fuck activision, i havent given them money in so long, pirated all my xbox games, computer games, and only paid the 15 dollar fee for wow | ||
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Teddyman
Finland362 Posts
That having been said, the OP is really biased and goes searching for all kinds of false evidence to support his argument. Let's look at some: additional protection with the Blizzard Authenticator, so you’ll be safer against hackers for 6.50$ instead of for free You do know this is an actual physical device that makes you input a code every time you log in to WoW or SC2? I certainly wouldn't like my subscription money being used to buy every player one (+replacements) just because some people want to run all the keyloggers they can find on the internet. Blizzard Mobile is getting made for stupid phone sounds and pictures Good thing that you put the word "stupid" there so we know how we should feel about that. In the Thomas Tippl interview, you just highlight a few random words to make it seem all ominous. They are exploring opportunities? Certainly a sign of things to come... Soon after, Kotick even believes, that with Activision Blizzard now being so big, he seems to have the right to dictate future consoles hardware design: You make a pretty smooth leap from "influence" to "dictate." He also doesn't say anything about them claiming any right to do so. Blizzard in a partnership with DIRECTV (and with increasing desire for more $$) provide Live Streaming of the Event for only 39.95$, although Streams from such events as the E3, Tokyo Gameshow or GamesCom are usually free… I guess you didn't watch that, since there were 2 free streams that streamed the tournaments. Only the DirecTV produced stream cost money. As a side note the DirecTV stream was crap (didn't pay for it but many people livestreamed it until the streams were taken down.) Your choice of free stream with Artosis/Tasteless/bunny/djWheat or $40 stream with DirecTV commentators making jokes of nerds. Anyway, the OP is mainly just every source of discontent with SC2 mixed with quotes from CEO/CFO-level interviews (surprise: finance department people talking to shareholders and investors talk about how to make the most money.) People are taking the "shitstorm" mentality Kennigit posted about to their hearts, but direct it at a place where Blizzard will read it, not TL forums. | ||
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D3xter
Germany17 Posts
On May 30 2010 08:07 pettter wrote: I seldom buy games at all nowadays. I will certainly not buy a game company who pays such a guy a (no doubt insanely inflated) salary. Activision Blizzard, fuck you. http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/10/kotick-made-nearly-15-million-last-year/ He made $14,950,102 in 2008 only cause of his great work  On May 30 2010 07:14 GG.Win wrote: So I just read through all of that, and I have to say... if most of that is true, I seriously fear for the direction SC2 is taking. I hope its all just propaganda though. It reminds me a lot of Origin Systems and EA. Funny you should mention that, there was an Interview in 2004 (can't find the link right now) where a manager of Ultima Online/Origin was asked about the success of World of Warcraft and he said something along the lines of him believing that it would destroy Blizzard as a company. Activision mainly just merged with Blizz because of the financial success of World of Warcraft, much like EA bought Bioware and keeps pumping money into them, because they hope the new Star Wars MMO "The Old Republic" will finally be big after they failed with stuff like Sims Online or Warhammer Online. As Kotick himself said in his speech at the last DICE (on "Creative Talent" of all things...) he didn't have much interest in the company before that, and when WoW was being developed he didn't think it would make any money at first: http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/702673/dice-2010-activision-ceo-bobby-kotick-presentation.html On May 30 2010 08:26 Teddyman wrote: That having been said, the OP is really biased and goes searching for all kinds of false evidence to support his argument. Let's look at some: I never pretended to not BE unbiased (in fact it should be pretty clear by my choice of pictures I am), it is a very hard thing to do if you see games you've been looking forward to for decades being ruined by business and marketing decisions, and my wording directly feeds to that end. Concerning the Blizzard Authenticator, I know it is a physical device, but they could aswell have developed an Online system or a system in conjunction with a mail account for the encryption (providing said unique Token/Password that way), they instead chose to make it a "product" and market it, even though it should be one of their main concerns to keep their customers safe. Of course I could have included things like: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/18/kotick-announces-activisions-half-million-dollar-indie-games-co/ Kotick announcing that half a mil "Indie game competition" or similar, but that wouldn't exactly help my point, would it? xD I'd go as far as to say, every written sentence or opinion is "biased" one way or another and it's really up to the reader to make out the truth or form their opinion based on different sources. | ||
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kajeus
United States679 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
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