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On May 30 2010 09:19 KungKras wrote:
It's official. If Blizzard has become corrupted by the insanity of the gaming industry, Nintendo will be the only games company left that actually does things right.
I really hope their disruption of the industry is successful. Because games companies as they work now needs to be destroyed.
Nintendo? Are you freakin serious? No, just valve, and some non-mainstream developers like CDproJekt Red, Arena-net, S2gaming,and a few others.. And indie devs ofc.
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On May 30 2010 09:23 Garrl wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2010 09:19 KungKras wrote:
It's official. If Blizzard has become corrupted by the insanity of the gaming industry, Nintendo will be the only games company left that actually does things right.
I really hope their disruption of the industry is successful. Because games companies as they work now needs to be destroyed. What about Valve?
I haven't really followed Valve's business, so I can't have a fully educated opinion about them. But they did give us Portal for free, and that's awesome. I just haven't kept. Still, even if I say that Nintendo and Valve are the only sane games companies left, even with twice the number of sane games companies, there still aren't a lot of them out there.
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Great write up. Its just depressing what happens when a company forgets what made them popular. I have no problem with a corporation trying to get paid, but only if they continue to produce the same quality games they had in the past.
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i always knew it was activisions plan to make it a trilogy. fck this sht.
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The 1-star for Amazon is actually a great idea. The problem for a site like TL is that they are the most commited fanbase but because they're relatively small and will buy the game anyway they don't have any too much leverage. It's a problem in general how to keep ever-larger corporations responsive to customers and the proper way to do that is to organize as a community and find a way to hurt them financially. That's why I don't think the Amazon 1-star thing is childish, it's adult rather: a way to use the community's power against a corporation in a completely valid and legal way.
I do think it would be a good idea for TL.net to expand on things like this if some basic b.net 2.0 problems aren't fixed come release though, so it becomes organized and it's visible who is responsible.
edit: this thread is still ridiculous and merely stirring up anger with ominous out-of-context facts.
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On May 30 2010 09:34 KungKras wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2010 09:23 Garrl wrote:On May 30 2010 09:19 KungKras wrote:
It's official. If Blizzard has become corrupted by the insanity of the gaming industry, Nintendo will be the only games company left that actually does things right.
I really hope their disruption of the industry is successful. Because games companies as they work now needs to be destroyed. What about Valve? I haven't really followed Valve's business, so I can't have a fully educated opinion about them. But they did give us Portal for free, and that's awesome. I just haven't kept. Still, even if I say that Nintendo and Valve are the only sane games companies left, even with twice the number of sane games companies, there still aren't a lot of them out there.
How the hell is Nintendo sane? You mean the ones who characterized people who play SMSB competitively as "Creepy people with no lives", people who play RPG's "People who sit in their basement with no friends", and made the nintendo Wii which had less functionality and technology then its predecessor except /waggle? You mean the guys that require you to pay a hefty sum to make their controller work as was advertised in their marketing?
You mean the guys who characterized their own game Ocarina of Time as "too hard and inaccessible", and the guys who put metroid on rails, the freakin antithesis of why metroid 2d was cool?
But yea, we're probably getting OT now.
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Praise game programmers selling their souls to corporate scum and becoming slave #12345 of 'I don't give a shit as long as it makes $' company...
Whoever played 'The Witcher' and read the paper article found on the body of the 1st leader of salamandra knows this : "We... Gamers... For... Gamers... They... No... Longer... Roll... The... Dragoon... Dices !"
Check it out xD
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On May 30 2010 09:41 Santriel wrote:
Praise game programmers selling their souls to corporate scum and becoming slave #12345 of 'I don't give a shit as long as it makes $' company...
You mean developers...?
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On May 30 2010 09:42 Half wrote:
You mean developers...?
Yeh. Abit drunk atm so I took the word that crossed my mind ^^
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On May 30 2010 09:44 Santriel wrote:Yeh. Abit drunk atm so I took the word that crossed my mind ^^
Well I wouldn't blame developers that much. Honestly how much influence would Dustin Browder have over Mike Morhaine? Not much I presume.
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On May 30 2010 09:31 Half wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2010 09:19 KungKras wrote:
It's official. If Blizzard has become corrupted by the insanity of the gaming industry, Nintendo will be the only games company left that actually does things right.
I really hope their disruption of the industry is successful. Because games companies as they work now needs to be destroyed. Nintendo? Are you freakin serious? No, just valve, and some non-mainstream developers like CDproJekt Red, Arena-net, Obsidian Entertainment, S2gaming,and a few others.. And indie devs ofc.
Explain to me why I shouldn't be serious. Nintendo is the only games company I know of that grew big, and retained the magic. have you ever seen them whine about used game sales and the like? Have you ever seen them being profitable by exploiting their customers à la Activision? No, they just make their games and let the games speak for themselves.
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On May 30 2010 09:46 KungKras wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2010 09:31 Half wrote:On May 30 2010 09:19 KungKras wrote:
It's official. If Blizzard has become corrupted by the insanity of the gaming industry, Nintendo will be the only games company left that actually does things right.
I really hope their disruption of the industry is successful. Because games companies as they work now needs to be destroyed. Nintendo? Are you freakin serious? No, just valve, and some non-mainstream developers like CDproJekt Red, Arena-net, Obsidian Entertainment, S2gaming,and a few others.. And indie devs ofc. Explain to me why I shouldn't be serious. Nintendo is the only games company I know of that grew big, and retained the magic. have you ever seen them whine about used game sales and the like? Have you ever seen them being profitable by exploiting their customers à la Activision? No, they just make their games and let the games speak for themselves.
Responded to that. Nintendo is one of the most oppressive studios in the industry. I'd literally put them with Activision. I'd choose Rockstar, EA, capcom, sega, whatever over nintendo. Search "Nintendo Issues cease and desist". They've shut down pretty much every single fan creation related to their products including several fan amateur movies, etc, which are nothing but works of fandom.
Also, I retract obsidian studios. Yeah they suck.
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I'm starting to be more and more convinced hopeful that Frank Pearce just went out and straight-up said what was going on in a bid to get stuff done the Blizzard way again by raising hell among the community about what's actually going on.
Unfortunately, even if that's the case it looks like it'll be more likely to get his ass fired, and then a bunch of lawsuits to try to figure out whether Kotick actually had the authority to fire him.
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On May 30 2010 09:37 Mothxal wrote:
The 1-star for Amazon is actually a great idea. The problem for a site like TL is that they are the most commited fanbase but because they're relatively small and will buy the game anyway they don't have any too much leverage. It's a problem in general how to keep ever-larger corporations responsive to customers and the proper way to do that is to organize as a community and find a way to hurt them financially. That's why I don't think the Amazon 1-star thing is childish, it's adult rather: a way to use the community's power against a corporation in a completely valid and legal way.
I do think it would be a good idea for TL.net to expand on things like this if some basic b.net 2.0 problems aren't fixed come release though, so it becomes organized and it's visible who is responsible.
Did you vote?
Poll: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET?Yes (6508) 83% No (1331) 17% 7839 total votes Your vote: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET? (Vote): Yes
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On May 30 2010 09:40 Half wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2010 09:34 KungKras wrote:On May 30 2010 09:23 Garrl wrote:On May 30 2010 09:19 KungKras wrote:
It's official. If Blizzard has become corrupted by the insanity of the gaming industry, Nintendo will be the only games company left that actually does things right.
I really hope their disruption of the industry is successful. Because games companies as they work now needs to be destroyed. What about Valve? I haven't really followed Valve's business, so I can't have a fully educated opinion about them. But they did give us Portal for free, and that's awesome. I just haven't kept. Still, even if I say that Nintendo and Valve are the only sane games companies left, even with twice the number of sane games companies, there still aren't a lot of them out there. How the hell is Nintendo sane? You mean the ones who characterized people who play SMSB competitively as "Creepy people with no lives", people who play RPG's "People who sit in their basement with no friends", and made the nintendo Wii which had less functionality and technology then its predecessor except /waggle? You mean the guys that require you to pay a hefty sum to make their controller work as was advertised in their marketing? You mean the guys who characterized their own game Ocarina of Time as "too hard and inaccessible", and the guys who put metroid on rails, the freakin antithesis of why metroid 2d was cool? But yea, we're probably getting OT now.
I meant business wise, about how they just makes games and let the games speak for them. But yea, we're getting off topic.
EDIT: I'll happily continue the debate in PMs though.
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On May 30 2010 09:37 Mothxal wrote:
The 1-star for Amazon is actually a great idea.
It's not.
It's acting like butthurt babies.
The ratings will just get deleted without a comment and 99% of the people crying now will guy the game anyway.
And why shouldn't they? It's a good game.
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I don't think I'm ever going to BUY an activision title again. Really good post with alot of good things mentioned. They JUST want money. They really don't care about the fans whatsoever.
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Don't want to be overly dramatic, but:
![[image loading]](http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8701/alienparasitemotherbliz.jpg)
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On May 30 2010 09:48 Musoeun wrote:I'm starting to be more and more convinced hopeful that Frank Pearce just went out and straight-up said what was going on in a bid to get stuff done the Blizzard way
Translation: Fuck teh "beloved communitah", we bee doin' patch in 3 years w/ new box costing $60 fo' 3 new unitz n' a half-assed campain', LULZ !
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On May 30 2010 09:50 FliedLice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2010 09:37 Mothxal wrote:
The 1-star for Amazon is actually a great idea. It's not. It's acting like butthurt babies. The ratings will just get deleted without a comment and 99% of the people crying now will guy the game anyway. And why shouldn't they? It's a good game.
That uses a gimped interface. And if you were an old time Blizzard fan, you know that people expect perfection from Blizzard. An imperfect game is not something that people became Blizzard fans to buy.
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