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The Gas Issue, second edition - Page 2

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v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
May 05 2010 20:57 GMT
#21
good work, nice write up, I had often wondered about the SCBW/SC2 gas situation in terms of position.
"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
May 05 2010 20:59 GMT
#22
very good work, this should be added to liquipedia !
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 05 2010 21:01 GMT
#23
Blizzard should hire you as their lead designer :|
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
May 05 2010 21:08 GMT
#24
Interesting analysis. Good to see people probing into the fine details of the game for everyone to learn. I commend you!

Thanks ^_^

NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
May 05 2010 21:15 GMT
#25
Great work, while it might not be game breaking, knowing this can give small edge in some games.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
May 05 2010 21:16 GMT
#26
So, you're telling me that how close a geyser is actually matters now due to the powerful AI? Thanks! ^_^

Sarcasm aside, very nice find. Now we can more accurately adjust our builds according to map positions :D (not too feasible during Ladder, but just imagine the implications on competitive gaming)
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
May 05 2010 21:20 GMT
#27
If Blizzard sees this: Hire this guy!

Good job man!
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
May 05 2010 21:27 GMT
#28
This will be really helpful for custom maps


and one has to wonder why Blizzard didn't do any of these calculations, leading to positional imbalances on a couple maps.
Monoxide
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada1190 Posts
May 05 2010 21:31 GMT
#29
Wow, was this your 1000th post? Very good read and extremely helpful. Thanks!
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
May 05 2010 21:32 GMT
#30
Thanks, I love you for this now LOL.
I live by the LoL
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
May 05 2010 21:40 GMT
#31
added to liquipedia? great work ! *thumbs up*
IndecisivePenguin
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States771 Posts
May 05 2010 21:44 GMT
#32
Wow, this is just amazing. Most people never think twice about something like gas efficiency. Thanks for the info!
Kisra
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom466 Posts
May 05 2010 21:59 GMT
#33
Very interesting stuff, hope it gets caught by Blizzard o.o
:D
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
May 05 2010 22:03 GMT
#34
On May 06 2010 06:59 Kisra wrote:
Very interesting stuff, hope it gets caught by Blizzard o.o

would be embarresing if they werent aware of this already

anyhow i hope this is good call for future mapmakers, always put gas S/W/E/N of town hall
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
zerodahero
Profile Joined December 2009
United States358 Posts
May 05 2010 22:04 GMT
#35
This post is fantastic. Thanks for sharing this with us.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
May 05 2010 22:05 GMT
#36
[image loading]
This is the most important image in your post imo. All the 79% and 74% spots mine at 100% with 3 workers.

So if we want maps to be standardized with respect to gas mining we'd use only the 79% with 2 workers spots. Alternatively, use one 79% and one 74% or just 74% spots.

It is interesting that the result is mostly symmetrical but gas on top mines slower than elsewhere.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
May 05 2010 22:18 GMT
#37
nice find
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
rahkshi
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom36 Posts
May 05 2010 22:24 GMT
#38
very well researched there. I also like how you helped out with each map. good find.
No doubt about it, im new to SC. So if i ask silly questions, dont bash me ¬.¬
Dr.Frost
Profile Joined April 2009
United States389 Posts
May 05 2010 22:24 GMT
#39
Really appreciate this information!
They are here to right our fall, they have heard someones troubled call???
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
May 05 2010 22:26 GMT
#40
not enough pictures
would appreciate if you replace all text with more pictures ty
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