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AU/NZ on SEA servers. Possibly more segregation? - Page 5

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ibutoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Australia341 Posts
April 28 2010 14:48 GMT
#81
On April 28 2010 22:55 gravity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2010 22:53 FuryX wrote:
the ping for aus/nz is still going to shit for aus since its in asia.

for aus, connecting to usa is better

It depends where the server actually is. They might put it in Australia.

not likely, bandwidth costs in aus are too expensive. I'd guess singapore.
Nada got Yooned
FuryX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia495 Posts
April 28 2010 14:50 GMT
#82
On April 28 2010 23:40 PikaFoO wrote:
I dont understand why you would toss up between;
semi competitiveness +better ping; or massive competition but continuous lagatron.../ average-->poor latency;;
is there something im missing out on?


Is it laggy for you right now in Beta?

I can tell you that it's not.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51707 Posts
April 28 2010 14:51 GMT
#83
On April 28 2010 23:48 ibutoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2010 22:55 gravity wrote:
On April 28 2010 22:53 FuryX wrote:
the ping for aus/nz is still going to shit for aus since its in asia.

for aus, connecting to usa is better

It depends where the server actually is. They might put it in Australia.

not likely, bandwidth costs in aus are too expensive. I'd guess singapore.


not likely since the ping from singapore to australia is over 220...but from australia to the US its less than 180..
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
PikaFoO
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia38 Posts
April 28 2010 14:52 GMT
#84
But then - most if not all players would want to connect to the US servers;
and then they would be filled with games with terrible pings;; dimming down the experience not only for Americans but for everyone else.
think about WC3 now; most people play on BA now am i right? - this may be due to various issues;; perhaps people being too cheap to buy WC3 (cheapskates) . Or there is a community of Aussies on there.
I think to a degree you would agree with me that; WC3 finding a game with good latency was a bit of a challenge but rewarding when you did find one.
That as it may be; is only my experience of WC3 servers; which may be totally different to yours;
but in respect ; i do see the advantage of server change;
but also server segregation.
But overall; i don't think it will prevent you from buying SC2 and having a good experience.
-Break my heart for what breaks yours;
FuryX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia495 Posts
April 28 2010 14:52 GMT
#85
On April 28 2010 23:46 Qiin wrote:
Guys, settle down. TRUST ME, we NEEED the good ping, or we have NO chance to penetrate the top pro scene ><


They will have better ping than AUS, server is not going to be anywhere near AUS. Ping will be worse, and will be playing against mostly asians. And most asians have a natural +400APM in the DNA.
PikaFoO
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia38 Posts
April 28 2010 14:53 GMT
#86
Be as it may; the Beta server has <=10,000? wait till the game comes out =]
-Break my heart for what breaks yours;
TheKing
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia186 Posts
April 28 2010 15:56 GMT
#87
On April 28 2010 22:55 gravity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2010 22:53 FuryX wrote:
the ping for aus/nz is still going to shit for aus since its in asia.

for aus, connecting to usa is better

It depends where the server actually is. They might put it in Australia.

Very unlikely. Internet connections in Australia is very expensive because the infrastructure is bad(and the companies are jews). Thats why there is no australian HoN server.
Qiin
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia102 Posts
April 28 2010 16:15 GMT
#88
I dont think Blizzard would group us with South East Asia if the latency reduction was not big. I think people are over reacting, i hope we can test this during the beta.
http://adeptguild.com/ - In the rear with the gear
Svetz
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia311 Posts
April 28 2010 16:18 GMT
#89
It sucks not being able to play with your friends and I'll be moving to aus in a few months, so I'm hoping they let me switch my EU copy over so I don't have to buy 2, but I'm not sure I buy into the lack of competitive play arguement. Surely there's going to be a lot of decent players from the SE asian countries? And the new ladder system makes it easy to get decent games against competent players without having to speak their language.

In BW were you able to log onto 2 different servers at the same time with the same key, or was the authentication global?
When I grow up I want to be Harry Dresden ;(
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
April 29 2010 02:57 GMT
#90
On April 28 2010 19:04 DeCoup wrote:
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On April 28 2010 18:53 abrasion wrote:
Umm because we want to play with our friends?

So get your friends to migrate too? It would not be a hard sell. I have 4 friends who are all keen for SC2. I am sure I can get them all to migrate if I want too.

what about when your super best friend johnny goes out and buys the game of his own accord because everyones been talking about it, but now hes stuck alone on the dead empty oceanic server (lets be totally honest its gonna be tiny, especially after a year when people are quitting because everyone else is quitting)
AUSSIESCUM
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abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
April 29 2010 12:56 GMT
#91
Yep pretty much - this is a lose lose move for us.
derpmods
pheus
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia161 Posts
May 14 2010 14:37 GMT
#92
On April 29 2010 01:18 Svetz wrote:
It sucks not being able to play with your friends and I'll be moving to aus in a few months, so I'm hoping they let me switch my EU copy over so I don't have to buy 2, but I'm not sure I buy into the lack of competitive play arguement. Surely there's going to be a lot of decent players from the SE asian countries? And the new ladder system makes it easy to get decent games against competent players without having to speak their language.

In BW were you able to log onto 2 different servers at the same time with the same key, or was the authentication global?


There just aren't that many players in Australia and SE Asia in general. That's why most games die (especially the competitive scenes) here. That is my main concern. I dread clicking "find match" and having to wait 15-30 minutes to find a single game because no one is playing. On iccup for example, in the last 50 or so games that I played only one was against an australian.

On April 28 2010 00:41 Kralic wrote:
Maybe Thailand is happy they aren't playing with the Chinese players anymore, I know in WoW they had a lot of issues with the Chinese flooding their server due to them getting the new expansion before the Chinese.

Dude, LOL. That's Taiwan, not Thailand.
Qiin
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia102 Posts
May 15 2010 14:42 GMT
#93
Does anyone have any insight regarding when we should expect blizz to implement these servers? I would imagine it would happen sometime soon during the beta.
http://adeptguild.com/ - In the rear with the gear
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
May 16 2010 07:04 GMT
#94
No idea - but I'm not buying until we get more information.
derpmods
aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore848 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-16 07:40:10
May 16 2010 07:38 GMT
#95
i still slightly dislike the segregation but if you look on the bright side, only players from those countries can qualify for the quaterly ladders and tournaments they are sure to run

yes we have a much less talented player pool, much less players and varierty of strats and ALOT less custom maps (dota etc) creations to play

but that means we get close to 0 lag, and for the top national players but not top international players, alot higher chance to do well in tournaments since only players in our region can play.

im pretty sure indonesia and phillipines have very few pple who will play or pay that much (it retails at a more exp rate of $80US for standard copy - probably cause of the server setup costs) so that just leaves top players from australia/nz,singapore and malaysia.

im also happy that chn and kr have their own sever so theres much less problem with communication.
sc2sea.com - The SEA / ANZ community
zoltanium
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia171 Posts
May 16 2010 08:19 GMT
#96
I remember trying to play in a singapore hosted BF2142 competition.

I got 400 ping (live in perth). The routing to SE asia is worst than the routing to USA :/ .
mate
streek
Profile Joined May 2010
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-16 09:31:14
May 16 2010 09:30 GMT
#97
This is crazy, one of my best friends of all time is an aussie and I was the one who got him into SC. If SC2 is gunna keep us from playing he might as well cancel his pre-order. Can anyone confirm the ability to change servers by calling blizz?
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
May 30 2010 10:01 GMT
#98
Well it looks like this turned out to be the case, great :/
derpmods
divinesage
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore649 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 10:22:48
May 30 2010 10:20 GMT
#99
I don't really feel like playing in the SEA server too, can't communicate with most of the players there. Blizzard doesn't understand that Asia doesn't have any homogeneous language that we speak. I forsee the majority of the people in the server won't even be communicating properly with one another (Kalimdor (Asia) server in WC3 anyone)?

To add things up, I've been playing in the USWest server ever since Diablo II, and there's certainly almost no lag for me in those servers.

A money grubbing move by Blizzard from what I see. Disappointing, very disappointing.

EDIT: One more thing to add, one reason why I loved the USWest server was because there was a larger pool of custom games played. Looks like I won't be getting to play those games now that this has happened.
RisingTide
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia769 Posts
May 30 2010 11:02 GMT
#100
Ahh, sometimes being Australian sucks. We've always been neglected, and now that they're trying to do something, they're making it worse
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