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United States47024 Posts
On April 19 2010 05:50 Cheree wrote:
I've already said this many times. I expect people who didn't contribute to lose. I expect the staff not to humiliate people who lost/made a mistake nominating themselves when they've contributed nothing to the community. Losing and sighs from other members are enough. I don't expect the staff to unfairly group people who didn't do a mistake with those who did. I don't expect the staff to toy with people who don't deserve it, basically driving people away without getting to know them. I agree that you won't see a vast majority of them again, maybe partly due to the attitude of some of the members/staff are holding. I would have just allowed the natural course of the contest take place. I am starting to feel like TL has some condescending/elite behavior from their members/leaders. There's people like that everywhere, and thanks to this thread, I can start pinpointing these guys out. Getting to know the community goes both ways.
Whether someone stays opted-in or not isn't weeding out anyone. If they're going to leave, they don't need this thread to do it. This thread just pushes those on the verge into leaving when they could be pulled into contributing instead.
You would not be the first to have that impression.
TL has created that impression among many people over it's existence. Frankly, I don't think it's a stretch to say most of us don't really care what most of those people think, especially given their own histories with the site.
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I contributed as much as I could, but I nominated myself not for that reason, I nominated myself because I knew that I might get enough votes from all my sc friends, clanmates, students, teachers and fans, to get the beta key ! :}
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So 53 left, unless the list is not updated.
With the people forgetting to re-confirm in the last 2 hours, I expect them to reach the required number.
Those keys could have been gone to contributors 
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On April 19 2010 06:01 ProoM wrote:
I contributed as much as I could, but I nominated myself not for that reason, I nominated myself because I knew that I might get enough votes from all my sc friends, clanmates, students, teachers and fans, to get the beta key ! :}
Yeah but dude they all nominated themselves too!
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United States47024 Posts
On April 19 2010 06:02 IntoTheWow wrote:So 53 left, unless the list is not updated. With the people forgetting to re-confirm in the last 2 hours, I expect them to reach the required number. Those keys could have been gone to contributors
Are there really 40 keys for this? I wouldn't have thought there would be that many devoted to something as spontaneous as this.
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On April 19 2010 06:02 IntoTheWow wrote:So 53 left, unless the list is not updated. With the people forgetting to re-confirm in the last 2 hours, I expect them to reach the required number. Those keys could have been gone to contributors
XD thats what will probably hapend... I share some of your anger
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On April 19 2010 06:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
So 53 left, unless the list is not updated.
52 actually. 2 people dropped since last update.
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On April 19 2010 05:57 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 05:50 Cheree wrote:
I've already said this many times. I expect people who didn't contribute to lose. I expect the staff not to humiliate people who lost/made a mistake nominating themselves when they've contributed nothing to the community. Losing and sighs from other members are enough. I don't expect the staff to unfairly group people who didn't do a mistake with those who did. I don't expect the staff to toy with people who don't deserve it, basically driving people away without getting to know them. I agree that you won't see a vast majority of them again, maybe partly due to the attitude of some of the members/staff are holding. I would have just allowed the natural course of the contest take place. I am starting to feel like TL has some condescending/elite behavior from their members/leaders. There's people like that everywhere, and thanks to this thread, I can start pinpointing these guys out. Getting to know the community goes both ways.
Whether someone stays opted-in or not isn't weeding out anyone. If they're going to leave, they don't need this thread to do it. This thread just pushes those on the verge into leaving when they could be pulled into contributing instead. You would not be the first to have that impression. TL has created that impression among many people over it's existence. Frankly, I don't think it's a stretch to say most of us don't really care what most of those people think, especially given their own histories with the site.
I personally would be worried if we didn't give out that impression to people. I felt the same way Cheree felt a long time ago... but I think once you hang around for awhile, you get the feel of things and begin to think the same way as the people you used to think were elitist.
We are a family here and we welcome ANYBODY who is serious about being a part of it...
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On April 19 2010 06:02 IntoTheWow wrote:So 53 left, unless the list is not updated. With the people forgetting to re-confirm in the last 2 hours, I expect them to reach the required number. Those keys could have been gone to contributors
Agreed, this is a problem. It seems that, with the number of people who were canceled due to inactivity, many of those who are staying on can coast their way to getting a key without learning a lesson of any kind.
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On April 19 2010 06:08 jgju wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 06:02 IntoTheWow wrote:So 53 left, unless the list is not updated. With the people forgetting to re-confirm in the last 2 hours, I expect them to reach the required number. Those keys could have been gone to contributors Agreed, this is a problem. It seems that, with the number of people who were canceled due to inactivity, many of those who are staying on can coast their way to getting a key without learning a lesson of any kind.
what lesson? i did nothing wrong in nominating myself ( at first i nominated real-penguin after some thought about cool guys here who don't have a key, but then in the thread it specifically told me that nominating myself is fine.), now everyone gets crazy that somebody would even DARE to do something what is allowed. thats bogus. complete bogus. i think everyone who stuck through this 'hell' of totally undeserved flames deserves a key. it's just a KEY. not something special.
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What is the required number? Wasn't it like 48 or something? I think it'll still be hard for them to lose many more now, since as they are getting closer to the required number few will want to drop out. But we'll see! I'm impressed by how many dropped out!
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On April 19 2010 06:02 IntoTheWow wrote:So 53 left, unless the list is not updated. With the people forgetting to re-confirm in the last 2 hours, I expect them to reach the required number. Those keys could have been gone to contributors
Did you get one yet? I nominated you. I figured my vote held a lot of water =P
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On April 19 2010 06:16 Superiorwolf wrote:
What is the required number?
Hasn't been posted, as far as I know. It's more than zero and, presumably, less than 150.
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On April 19 2010 06:05 LordWeird wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 19 2010 05:57 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 05:50 Cheree wrote:
I've already said this many times. I expect people who didn't contribute to lose. I expect the staff not to humiliate people who lost/made a mistake nominating themselves when they've contributed nothing to the community. Losing and sighs from other members are enough. I don't expect the staff to unfairly group people who didn't do a mistake with those who did. I don't expect the staff to toy with people who don't deserve it, basically driving people away without getting to know them. I agree that you won't see a vast majority of them again, maybe partly due to the attitude of some of the members/staff are holding. I would have just allowed the natural course of the contest take place. I am starting to feel like TL has some condescending/elite behavior from their members/leaders. There's people like that everywhere, and thanks to this thread, I can start pinpointing these guys out. Getting to know the community goes both ways.
Whether someone stays opted-in or not isn't weeding out anyone. If they're going to leave, they don't need this thread to do it. This thread just pushes those on the verge into leaving when they could be pulled into contributing instead. You would not be the first to have that impression. TL has created that impression among many people over it's existence. Frankly, I don't think it's a stretch to say most of us don't really care what most of those people think, especially given their own histories with the site. I personally would be worried if we didn't give out that impression to people. I felt the same way Cheree felt a long time ago... but I think once you hang around for awhile, you get the feel of things and begin to think the same way as the people you used to think were elitist. We are a family here and we welcome ANYBODY who is serious about being a part of it...
Ah, the fun of being on the inside pissing out. The answer to "Why are you pissing on your members and newcommers?" is "You'll understand with time." Tough love, man. Tough love.
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On April 19 2010 06:04 Hypnotikdel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 06:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
So 53 left, unless the list is not updated. 52 actually. 2 people dropped since last update.
53-2=51 ? Or i have to restudy all the math?
On April 19 2010 06:20 Cheree wrote:
Ah, the fun of being on the inside pissing out. The answer to "Why are you pissing on your members and newcommers?" is "You'll understand with time." Tough love, man. Tough love.
The fact is that Tl.net is the standard, is the best site about BW professional scene. They can be elitist simply because they provide high quality features..they don't need to beg for users because useres will always come here..
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On April 19 2010 06:18 crate wrote:Hasn't been posted, as far as I know. It's more than zero and, presumably, less than 150.
I even dare to say that it's between 0 and 52, since the keys still aren't given out xD
On April 19 2010 06:22 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 06:04 Hypnotikdel wrote:On April 19 2010 06:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
So 53 left, unless the list is not updated. 52 actually. 2 people dropped since last update. 53-2=51 ? Or i have to restudy all the math?
I think he actually ment there 1 MORE person left, than previous dude thought. So it's 54-(1+1)=52.
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France2061 Posts
On April 19 2010 05:50 Cheree wrote:
I am starting to feel like TL has some condescending/elite behavior from their members/leaders. There's people like that everywhere, and thanks to this thread, I can start pinpointing these guys out. Getting to know the community goes both ways.
I'm sure they'll all understand the error of their ways and quickly reform once they know you're watching them. A random white knight's input is always appreciated.
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On April 19 2010 06:22 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 06:04 Hypnotikdel wrote:On April 19 2010 06:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
So 53 left, unless the list is not updated. 52 actually. 2 people dropped since last update. 53-2=51 ? Or i have to restudy all the math?
Math won't help you in this contest.
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I think/hope that the contest ends with keys being awarded to people who have removed themselves from consideration. Selflessness deserves rewards. Selfishness does not.
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On April 19 2010 06:13 SkytoM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 06:08 jgju wrote:On April 19 2010 06:02 IntoTheWow wrote:So 53 left, unless the list is not updated. With the people forgetting to re-confirm in the last 2 hours, I expect them to reach the required number. Those keys could have been gone to contributors Agreed, this is a problem. It seems that, with the number of people who were canceled due to inactivity, many of those who are staying on can coast their way to getting a key without learning a lesson of any kind. what lesson? i did nothing wrong in nominating myself ( at first i nominated real-penguin after some thought about cool guys here who don't have a key, but then in the thread it specifically told me that nominating myself is fine.), now everyone gets crazy that somebody would even DARE to do something what is allowed. thats bogus. complete bogus. i think everyone who stuck through this 'hell' of totally undeserved flames deserves a key. it's just a KEY. not something special.
Lesson as in seeing the value of the community and the willingness of TL members to give away their own shot at the key to help others, not lesson as in "grrr self nominating is evil"
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