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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
March 14 2010 08:13 GMT
#41
Lol I feel bad for the guy. They should promote him asap!

I remember I randomly got promoted from gold to platinum after losing a game around ~6th ranked in a gold div. Their methods... are mysterious to say the least.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
March 14 2010 10:03 GMT
#42
On March 14 2010 16:45 Rothbardian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2010 16:43 QibingZero wrote:
On March 14 2010 16:33 Dionyseus wrote:
On March 14 2010 16:31 Rothbardian wrote:
Well one of the posts over at SCL (Take this with a grain of salt), where a guy has a friend who works at Blizzard on SC II, said that the placement takes into account APM, Unspent/Spent, and other game statistics in conjunction with win/loss. Yeah, like I said, a grain of salt. So, who knows.....

To the guy who said Blizzard and FAQ about Ladders. Funny. Funny man.



Using apm doesn't make much sense to me, but taking the final score into account does sound plausible.


And iirc, this guy is over 100 (displayed) APM, and in silver. There are many platinum players who aren't hitting that.


This is true. My APM hovers around 100-120, and many other Plat's I play are in the 60-90 range. ;/



if you play a 12 minute game and your average APM is 120 then you are absolutely wasting those actions.
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Artrey
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany270 Posts
March 14 2010 10:19 GMT
#43
Once again before all cry: leagues overlap. The league difference just translates into a rating offset. Imho it is 225 per league, and 450 between copper and bronze. That means his 2432 silver equal 1982 platinum. Sure I have no proof for this, but the data reported speaks for itself.

This means people finally need to get over the idea of "platinum > all". We do neither know how the reranking is working, nor whether it is the same concept as in the final version. There might be skill gaps in leagues with outstanding players frequently and it might take some weeks or months until they are placed higher. Why not? The system translates between leagues fluently and there is no need for a hard distinction.

And I think the comments from people saying 1200 got favored against 1600 in the same league just mixed the stats up when they checked it and checked for 2v2 or something, as those reports are pretty rare. :D

I have been checking my opponents in the past days and it always confirmed the theory so far.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
March 14 2010 10:34 GMT
#44
On March 14 2010 19:03 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2010 16:45 Rothbardian wrote:
On March 14 2010 16:43 QibingZero wrote:
On March 14 2010 16:33 Dionyseus wrote:
On March 14 2010 16:31 Rothbardian wrote:
Well one of the posts over at SCL (Take this with a grain of salt), where a guy has a friend who works at Blizzard on SC II, said that the placement takes into account APM, Unspent/Spent, and other game statistics in conjunction with win/loss. Yeah, like I said, a grain of salt. So, who knows.....

To the guy who said Blizzard and FAQ about Ladders. Funny. Funny man.



Using apm doesn't make much sense to me, but taking the final score into account does sound plausible.


And iirc, this guy is over 100 (displayed) APM, and in silver. There are many platinum players who aren't hitting that.


This is true. My APM hovers around 100-120, and many other Plat's I play are in the 60-90 range. ;/



if you play a 12 minute game and your average APM is 120 then you are absolutely wasting those actions.


... Wow... Seriously..? -_-;;

Also taking into account unspent/spent is retarded. half the games ive seen on streams have been one person losing, typing gg, then the players having a conversation about the game and stuff (or just general bm). Both players would end the game with 2k unspent... Does this make either of them worse players ^_~
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Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
March 14 2010 10:35 GMT
#45
If he weren't from the US, I'd call you a liar.

Everyone knows Stork is the highest rated silver player.
It felt like gravity.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8072 Posts
March 14 2010 10:56 GMT
#46
Ok I'm Scrapper (number 2 in the pic) and I just got put into platinum league after hitting about 1800 points.. so I don't know what's wrong with sczc
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
March 14 2010 10:57 GMT
#47
On March 14 2010 15:40 Integra wrote:
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On March 14 2010 15:39 huameng wrote:
On March 14 2010 15:37 Integra wrote:
no, ratings between leagues are not the same, considering his win/loss ratio he will get bashed pretty fast once he reaches gold/platinum, if he barely maintains a 50 win ratio in silver he wont really stand a chance in the higher leagues.


Your division doesn't totally determine the division of the players you play.

doesn't matter, my argument is still valid.


It's obviously not, and you should really read the OP, before posting in a thread.
I'll call Nada.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 14 2010 11:25 GMT
#48
On March 14 2010 15:49 Integra wrote:
Don't worry guys, Blizzard will put up a F.A.Q about the ladder system soon, you will understand then.


Lol, look at you, belittling others after having been called out for a statement that is clearly wrong.
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AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
March 14 2010 12:16 GMT
#49
On March 14 2010 19:19 Artrey wrote:
Once again before all cry: leagues overlap. The league difference just translates into a rating offset. Imho it is 225 per league, and 450 between copper and bronze. That means his 2432 silver equal 1982 platinum. Sure I have no proof for this, but the data reported speaks for itself.

This means people finally need to get over the idea of "platinum > all". We do neither know how the reranking is working, nor whether it is the same concept as in the final version. There might be skill gaps in leagues with outstanding players frequently and it might take some weeks or months until they are placed higher. Why not? The system translates between leagues fluently and there is no need for a hard distinction.

And I think the comments from people saying 1200 got favored against 1600 in the same league just mixed the stats up when they checked it and checked for 2v2 or something, as those reports are pretty rare. :D

I have been checking my opponents in the past days and it always confirmed the theory so far.

so why did i lost 500 point when i got promoted to platinum? (was gold before)
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Artrey
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany270 Posts
March 14 2010 12:55 GMT
#50
Because it is a theory and not final. Maybe the offset between gold and platinum is 450 too. ;-)
Or maybe every promotion takes 450 from you, no matter the gap you pass.

Rothbardian
Profile Joined January 2010
United States497 Posts
March 14 2010 12:56 GMT
#51
On March 14 2010 21:55 Artrey wrote:
Because it is a theory and not final. Maybe the offset between gold and platinum is 450 too. ;-)
Or maybe every promotion takes 450 from you, no matter the gap you pass.



Or maybe point evaluations are dynamic and not static....
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Artrey
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany270 Posts
March 14 2010 12:59 GMT
#52
On March 14 2010 21:56 Rothbardian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2010 21:55 Artrey wrote:
Because it is a theory and not final. Maybe the offset between gold and platinum is 450 too. ;-)
Or maybe every promotion takes 450 from you, no matter the gap you pass.



Or maybe point evaluations are dynamic and not static....


To many people reporting a change of exactly 450 for that imho.
Rothbardian
Profile Joined January 2010
United States497 Posts
March 14 2010 13:06 GMT
#53
On March 14 2010 21:59 Artrey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2010 21:56 Rothbardian wrote:
On March 14 2010 21:55 Artrey wrote:
Because it is a theory and not final. Maybe the offset between gold and platinum is 450 too. ;-)
Or maybe every promotion takes 450 from you, no matter the gap you pass.



Or maybe point evaluations are dynamic and not static....


To many people reporting a change of exactly 450 for that imho.


If this was the case it would be uniform, however it isn't. If only one deviation from your theory occurs, then your theory is wrong. Therefore, point evaluations are most likely dynamic and not static, and we have no clue as to how Blizzard is going about these evals upon changing Leagues. I'm sure the PhD Statistician they hired, did something a little more complex than this....
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fams
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada731 Posts
March 14 2010 13:10 GMT
#54
On March 14 2010 15:37 Integra wrote:
no, ratings between leagues are not the same, considering his win/loss ratio he will get bashed pretty fast once he reaches gold/platinum, if he barely maintains a 50 win ratio in silver he wont really stand a chance in the higher leagues.



Even though he (from that screen shot) maintains a 63% win ratio.....nice job.
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PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-14 14:34:40
March 14 2010 14:33 GMT
#55
On March 14 2010 15:37 Integra wrote:
no, ratings between leagues are not the same, considering his win/loss ratio he will get bashed pretty fast once he reaches gold/platinum, if he barely maintains a 50 win ratio in silver he wont really stand a chance in the higher leagues.


Um, I was 2300 1-2 weeks ago in bronze league and finally moved up, and I (we) still have the exact same win ratio and play the exact same players oversky, idra, etc. that we played the first week. Leagues have almost no impact on anything, they are pointless and useless. Yes his rating is going to change when he his plat, but unless he's bad and somehow actually plays silver players, he's not going to do any worse once he moves up.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10921 Posts
March 14 2010 14:38 GMT
#56
i lost about 400-450 from silver to gold.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
March 14 2010 15:36 GMT
#57
On March 14 2010 19:56 Vasoline73 wrote:
Ok I'm Scrapper (number 2 in the pic) and I just got put into platinum league after hitting about 1800 points.. so I don't know what's wrong with sczc


Grats, what division did they put you in?
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Shambler
Profile Joined March 2010
United States40 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-14 16:45:38
March 14 2010 16:45 GMT
#58
It seems like when you are doing well enough in a league an 'advance' button should appear. So if you want to go up a league you can.

I just played around with the new units in my placement matches and got put in copper. Like 3 hours later it moved me to bronze. Now I just bounce between #3 and #1 in bronze with a 55-60% win record. I only lose games when I am being up matched to people not in bronze. I just feel like I am unable to advance, and it's kinda stupid.
member1987
Profile Joined February 2010
141 Posts
March 14 2010 16:51 GMT
#59
so what, hes not even in gold division and winning a single game against platinum division gives him like 30-40 points.
Pape
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Serbia419 Posts
March 14 2010 16:54 GMT
#60
I share my roomates account and we are top in our silver league and it constantly puts us against silver/platinum. We have beaten almost all the golds and most of the plats but it never wants to move us up to gold or plat. So so weird.
good luck have fun!
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