EPTNo, it's not. If he's already splitting series with people at the top of their plat division, how is he going to get bashed? Will they put him vs smuft or cowgomoo every game? He's already holding his own in the higher league.
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huameng
United States1133 Posts
No, it's not. If he's already splitting series with people at the top of their plat division, how is he going to get bashed? Will they put him vs smuft or cowgomoo every game? He's already holding his own in the higher league. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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LF9
United States537 Posts
On March 14 2010 15:41 QibingZero wrote: I've played him twice (I'm middling platinum right now, don't have a ton of ladder games played). Both TvT, I won the first and lost the second. I think he's chinese - occasionally my name elicits a ni hao and such, heh. First game he went 2rax and immediately expanded when I held it with a bunker. I then rolled him over with marine/tank. Second game was on blistering sands and he siege rushed, broke down the rocks near my base before I put a supply there to scout it, and got in right before my siege finished and won. Neither was a particularly good game, honestly, so I can't really judge. He isn't Chinese, he's American, but he took a Chinese course in college so he thinks he can speak chinese. | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On March 14 2010 15:40 AnEsotericMan wrote: The rough impression I've gotten from playing is that each league up is a 200-250 point difference. So he's roughly as skilled as a platinum ranked 1932-2032. Not the highest rated, but certainly among the top players. Very odd that he's still in silver. Yea that sounds about right. He's probably getting favored against platinums under 1900. I just noticed he only got 4 points for a win against Quick, a rank 7 platinum division 16 rated 1614. | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On March 14 2010 15:55 Dionyseus wrote: Yea that sounds about right. He's probably getting favored against platinums under 1900. I just noticed he only got 4 points for a win against Quick, a rank 7 platinum division 16 rated 1614. This ladder is so messed up. The placement matches are weighed to heavily, in fact I don't even know why they exist, it would be much better if everyone just started at the bottom and worked their way up. I've seen people in platinum with under 100 games ffs. | ||
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Disarray
United States1164 Posts
On March 14 2010 15:39 CheeC[h] wrote: strange, i feel like beating people like that he would have been placed in gold or plat from the beginning. i assume this account is being shared by 2 or more people which is throwing off the accounts player statistics. i really think multiple people playing the account is the only logical conclusion. there may be a lot of mysteries surrounding how the league/ladder/amm work, but this is beyond all of that. | ||
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
On March 14 2010 15:49 Integra wrote: Don't worry guys, Blizzard will put up a F.A.Q about the ladder system soon, you will understand then. Whats there to understand besides the fact that he does well against high ranked platinum players? | ||
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Disarray
United States1164 Posts
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Trenan
United States14 Posts
I know many people have suggested that unspent minerals/apm might have something to do with it. To be honest it makes sense for me since my APM is probably horrific and I often times leave extra minerals piling up. Also Ive been rank 1 slot since the beginning of beta ![[image loading]](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c218/trenan/SC2%20Beta/SC_rankings.png) | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On March 14 2010 15:55 Dionyseus wrote: Yea that sounds about right. He's probably getting favored against platinums under 1900. I just noticed he only got 4 points for a win against Quick, a rank 7 platinum division 16 rated 1614. the numbers vary massively by division. a 1200 in some divisions would be favored vs a 1600 from others. | ||
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
What i mean is, this guy probably is a platinum level player, and is playing mostly other platinum level players right now, and his 'real skill' would be equal to somewhere in platinum or high gold, however until another beta wave comes out and theres more players to add into the ranks (more divisions open up), he wont get moved. | ||
Insane
United States4991 Posts
On March 14 2010 16:08 Disarray wrote: Also, the title name wasn't innacurate. he may be in silver, but im pretty sure 2400 is still the highest rating, among all leagues. It may have been technically accurate, but it was highly misleading, which is why I slightly changd it  | ||
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Rothbardian
United States497 Posts
To the guy who said Blizzard and FAQ about Ladders. Funny. Funny man. | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On March 14 2010 16:31 Rothbardian wrote: Well one of the posts over at SCL (Take this with a grain of salt), where a guy has a friend who works at Blizzard on SC II, said that the placement takes into account APM, Unspent/Spent, and other game statistics in conjunction with win/loss. Yeah, like I said, a grain of salt. So, who knows..... To the guy who said Blizzard and FAQ about Ladders. Funny. Funny man. Using apm doesn't make much sense to me, but taking the final score into account does sound plausible. | ||
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bh.
United States342 Posts
On March 14 2010 16:23 Ftrunkz wrote: I think its like wc3 in that, you can be visually a silver player, or visually a platinum player, however your 'real skill' elo (which isnt displayed) matches you up against appropriate players, and only certain things allow people to move up and down in divisions. What i mean is, this guy probably is a platinum level player, and is playing mostly other platinum level players right now, and his 'real skill' would be equal to somewhere in platinum or high gold, however until another beta wave comes out and theres more players to add into the ranks (more divisions open up), he wont get moved. The problem with this is that there have been more plat divisions made very recently, as I was just put into a new plat division, so this can't be the case. | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
On March 14 2010 16:33 Dionyseus wrote: Using apm doesn't make much sense to me, but taking the final score into account does sound plausible. And iirc, this guy is over 100 (displayed) APM, and in silver. There are many platinum players who aren't hitting that. | ||
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Rothbardian
United States497 Posts
On March 14 2010 16:43 QibingZero wrote: And iirc, this guy is over 100 (displayed) APM, and in silver. There are many platinum players who aren't hitting that. This is true. My APM hovers around 100-120, and many other Plat's I play are in the 60-90 range. ;/ | ||
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CagedMind
United States506 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7848 Posts
 Using the name scrapper because my friend gave me the account but already named it | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
this is funny i lost to this guy recently (im ~1650 in plat div 5) and lost hardly any points i asked myself, why did i lose so few points and why have i not seen nor played this guy before? (seeing as how there is a fairly small pool of players ranked much higher than me where im the full underdog) i quickly ran through the a couple platinum divisions of my friend's list and couldnt find him and i figured he was in some newer plat division funny i ran into this thread edit: i think these type of freak cases are going to happen more frequently as more beta waves are released seeing as how playing your first 10 games (even if you have exceptional micro/macro/rts IQ) you will lose to any plat/gold player that has ~100+ games so you will get placed in a lower league | ||
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