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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
February 26 2010 15:25 GMT
#41
On February 26 2010 23:39 Icks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2010 22:31 Teejing wrote:
On February 26 2010 19:34 CharlieMurphy wrote:
woot, i'm top 160 SpoR 1207 106-84
(actually 1219 now so move up 11 places)
wow my division (2) is the toughest.

Does that mean that my low points would probably be higher if I was in another division?



Your division is the not the hardest but the easiest, because it is bigger so you get the most points there. Elo points cannot be compared from division to division, so far now we can only compare ranks.

I dont understand this. Knowing that you can play against any people who are in any other division (and even any league apparently), i dont see why Elos shouldn't be compared. (And moreover, i dont see why there are divisions.)
Well, i see a reason: making kind of brackets for end season tournaments.

If anybody plays against anybody during the "regular season", the ratings are definitely comparable.
Then, the divisions are just there to pick up top seed players for tournaments?


Elos are only absolute within your own division.

If you play someone in your division the amount of points you gain = the amount of points your opponent loses (as far as I can tell).

When you play someone from another division the amount points you gain are only equal to the amount of points your opponent loses IF there are the same amount of players in both divisions.

My guess is Blizzard don't want players in empty divisions to gain too big of an ELO lead before it's filled up with players. For this reason you can't compare a division with 8 ppl to a division with 50.
psychopat
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada417 Posts
February 26 2010 16:01 GMT
#42
On February 26 2010 19:32 kickinhead wrote:
Wooow.... I'm actually kinda mad that even in the Top-200 in the US, there are People that actually have under 30 Games!


I don't have a beta, but if I did, I'd probably have under 30 games on the ladder and over a hundred custom games. The point of the beta isn't to rank high, it's to find bugs, test balance and provide feedback in order to improve the game.

Being at the top of the beta ladder is pointless and almost meaningless so I'd rather people use the beta to do what it's meant for as opposed to turning it into a pissing contest. There's going to be a lot of time to compete once the game is actually out.

route_Map
Profile Joined August 2009
United States28 Posts
February 26 2010 16:09 GMT
#43
On February 27 2010 01:01 psychopat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2010 19:32 kickinhead wrote:
Wooow.... I'm actually kinda mad that even in the Top-200 in the US, there are People that actually have under 30 Games!


I don't have a beta, but if I did, I'd probably have under 30 games on the ladder and over a hundred custom games. The point of the beta isn't to rank high, it's to find bugs, test balance and provide feedback in order to improve the game.



...And an excellent way to create an environment that tests balance, is to compete as if the game was complete and live for everyone.

Just because the beta test is a test, doesn't mean there's no fun to be had.
Vexki
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia36 Posts
February 26 2010 16:32 GMT
#44
CowGoMoo has the best win rate at 93.3%, David Kim in second place with 91.6%

Screw the inconsistent ELO ranks, over 90% win rate is nuts.
Piousflea
Profile Joined February 2010
United States259 Posts
February 26 2010 16:33 GMT
#45
Isn't there a bug where people's ELO gets reset back to 1000? I dont think there is any fair comparison until that bug is fixed.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
February 26 2010 16:36 GMT
#46
204 games played by idra

CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra
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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
February 26 2010 16:49 GMT
#47
On February 26 2010 18:58 Disarray wrote:
there is a division 11 now.

i'll post an up-to-date screen in 1m

edit:
[image loading]


this image is current as of the time of this post


how is that guy over 1400 with only 32 wins and a 2:1 ratio?

WTF?

I've been grinding for days with well over twice as many wins as him and I'm only at like 1350 or something
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Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
February 26 2010 16:53 GMT
#48
Like sais many times before, you cannot compare elo points from different division, just ranks.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 26 2010 17:06 GMT
#49
On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra

CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra

im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff

finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth.
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
February 26 2010 17:10 GMT
#50
On February 27 2010 02:06 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra

CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra

im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff

finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth.

Any other old BW players in CJ that are now SC2 players?
Niten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States598 Posts
February 26 2010 17:11 GMT
#51
On February 27 2010 02:06 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra

CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra

im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff

finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth.


IdrA, how many on CJ switched over to sc2?
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 26 2010 17:14 GMT
#52
no one else on cj has changed, probably wont for a while since no one knows whats gonna happen with korean esports yet.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 26 2010 17:21 GMT
#53
wtf I'm not on that list but I'm 1200+

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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24792 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 17:39:36
February 26 2010 17:32 GMT
#54
On February 27 2010 01:49 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2010 18:58 Disarray wrote:
there is a division 11 now.

i'll post an up-to-date screen in 1m

edit:
[image loading]


this image is current as of the time of this post


how is that guy over 1400 with only 32 wins and a 2:1 ratio?

WTF?

I've been grinding for days with well over twice as many wins as him and I'm only at like 1350 or something

It all comes down to luck with who you get paired against, I think. If you get a lot of silver/gold opponents you don't get many points for winning whereas if you get a lot of plat opponents you get a lot of points for winning (relatively speaking). Or alternately they may have had 0 bad losses whereas you may have dropped at least a couple of games to people from lower divisions... I know I did once or twice.

edit from below: cuteFayth if you are gonna counter-insult idra at least make sense.
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cuteFayth
Profile Joined January 2006
Canada1167 Posts
February 26 2010 17:38 GMT
#55
teehee

ur so cute IdrA, never any consistent argument, whenever you talk it's like you puke
cuteFayth
Profile Joined January 2006
Canada1167 Posts
February 26 2010 17:39 GMT
#56
you'd better get a life anytime soon, you won't get anywhere with pro gaming, we all know that
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 17:44:46
February 26 2010 17:42 GMT
#57
On February 27 2010 02:06 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra

CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra

im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff

finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth.

Wow this is great.

I'm placing my bets on IdrA being the first non-developer SC2 bonjwa.

And fayth won't you be envious when IdrA is on top of the ESPORTS WORLD getting mad pussy everywhere and you'll be the ugly nerd sitting in your room playing poker.
ColorsOfRainbow
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany354 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 17:48:50
February 26 2010 17:47 GMT
#58
Elos are only absolute within your own division.

so this make absolute no sense ^^


more players in division = more points

tahts why all division 2players have SO many points ... kiwi isnt better then other place 1 gamers
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
February 26 2010 17:50 GMT
#59
i dont think Elo's are only absolute within your own division, i think theyre universal across all divisions. Smaller divisions = Newer divisions and newer divisions would obviously contain players with lower ratings aka 9-1 Placement players.

I dont see any evidence that would show that theyre separate.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
February 26 2010 17:59 GMT
#60
On February 27 2010 02:42 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 02:06 IdrA wrote:
On February 27 2010 01:36 udgnim wrote:
204 games played by idra

CJ coaches need to go dictator on idra

im a sc2 player now, have permission from them to play it during practice time and stuff

finally passed david kim. thanks for being so bad fayth.

Wow this is great.

I'm placing my bets on IdrA being the first non-developer SC2 bonjwa.

And fayth won't you be envious when IdrA is on top of the ESPORTS WORLD getting mad pussy everywhere and you'll be the ugly nerd sitting in your room playing poker.

ROFL. This is truly the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on TL.
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