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Utter Darkness nerfed?

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spirates
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden148 Posts
August 01 2012 16:49 GMT
#1
Hi.

I played through the campain when the game was released and the hardest mission by far for me was In Utter Darkness.. It was atleast twice as hard as any other mission I played.

Today I decided to play it again after not doing single player for over 1 year atleast, and to my surprise I completed In Utter Darkness 2500 kills with ease o:..

So I wonder, have this mission (brutal) been nerfed since the game was released?
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
August 01 2012 16:54 GMT
#2
Have you considered the thought that maybe you just got better?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 01 2012 16:59 GMT
#3
Clearly whatever skills you've picked up in multiplayer over the last two years don't carry over to the single player, thus the only logical conclusion must be that Blizz stealth-nerfed the mission sometime inbetween...
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
August 01 2012 17:30 GMT
#4
You aren't nearly as bad as you used to be, congrats.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
August 01 2012 21:00 GMT
#5
When I started playing SC2 I was Platinum, now I'm mid-Masters. Ladder nerf?
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
August 01 2012 21:11 GMT
#6
Why is every single answer in this thread so petty? Could have made the point (Chances are you improved due to multiplayer) without being so condescending. :o
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
black3200
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada74 Posts
August 01 2012 21:20 GMT
#7
2 years ago I could bench 145lbs and now i can bench 195lbs , did they nerf my gym? ... but seriously im sure you just got better..
Give them nothing,But take from them..... everything!
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 01 2012 21:35 GMT
#8
On August 02 2012 06:11 Surth wrote:
Why is every single answer in this thread so petty? Could have made the point (Chances are you improved due to multiplayer) without being so condescending. :o

Because its a ridiculously obvious answer?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 21:51:55
August 01 2012 21:51 GMT
#9
For those unaware (it seems to be a lot of people) there are a lot of people on YouTube and B.Net who have at times suggested that patches have tweaked the campaign in various ways. Whilst it's not the case, it's not unreasonable that someone who hasn't actively read all the little changes of every patch might believe some levels have been nerfed.

To confirm the answer though, the campaign hasn't been changed since release except for bug fixing.
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Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
August 01 2012 23:58 GMT
#10
When you've gotten good, most of brutal will seem like a joke. =P It's fine though. Brutal lived up to its name in the first year of SC2 for most of us.

I mean, I can regularly score 3450+ kills on Utter Darkness Brutal with ease. No dark templars needed.
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
August 02 2012 03:59 GMT
#11
I played the mission recently (like three weeks ago) for the achievement and got 2.9k kills on Brutal. I just did it again out of curiosity after reading this thread and I got 2.8k, and it felt the same. It might have gotten "nerfed" at some point since release, but I'd guess that it's just that you've gotten better.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
August 02 2012 04:34 GMT
#12
Yeah I was a little surprised at how incredibly easy the campaign is on brutal now. Skill makes a big difference
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
August 02 2012 07:08 GMT
#13
On August 02 2012 13:34 IcedBacon wrote:
Yeah I was a little surprised at how incredibly easy the campaign is on brutal now. Skill makes a big difference

Me too, I remember struggling like hell and doing missions by the neck of the teeth on brutal. When I decided to do it again, I finished the Brutal in 2 days and almost no restarts between missions.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
rezzan
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden329 Posts
August 02 2012 10:21 GMT
#14
I havnt even finished the last mission in single player yet... Sc2 is multiplayer game imho :- > never been much for scBW-sc2 single-player
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 19:59:04
August 03 2012 08:46 GMT
#15
"Subtle" brag post alert!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 03 2012 09:18 GMT
#16
patch 1.5 strikes again
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
August 03 2012 09:35 GMT
#17
On August 02 2012 06:35 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 06:11 Surth wrote:
Why is every single answer in this thread so petty? Could have made the point (Chances are you improved due to multiplayer) without being so condescending. :o

Because its a ridiculously obvious answer?

is it?
what if hes stuck in bronze for 2 years, and plays mainly custom games like marine arena and stuff
and if he only plays zerg say, hes gonna be no better with terran then he was 2 years ago

the reason everyone has to be a tool about answering him is because they all wanna flex their e-penis and act really tough
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 03 2012 09:48 GMT
#18
On August 03 2012 18:35 ThatGuy89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 06:35 Whatson wrote:
On August 02 2012 06:11 Surth wrote:
Why is every single answer in this thread so petty? Could have made the point (Chances are you improved due to multiplayer) without being so condescending. :o

Because its a ridiculously obvious answer?

is it?
what if hes stuck in bronze for 2 years, and plays mainly custom games like marine arena and stuff
and if he only plays zerg say, hes gonna be no better with terran then he was 2 years ago

the reason everyone has to be a tool about answering him is because they all wanna flex their e-penis and act really tough

well he says he's in high master in another one of his threads, so I'd say he has in fact simply gotten better...
TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
August 03 2012 16:28 GMT
#19
Clearly a brag thread.
Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one.
MrF
Profile Joined October 2011
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 19:31:42
August 03 2012 19:57 GMT
#20
Clearly some bad bread.

User was warned for this post
sorry that was stupid, pointless and off topic, and not funny.

I doubt they nerfed the mission you just got better.
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