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ocd
Profile Joined October 2010
3 Posts
October 13 2010 20:25 GMT
#1
I encountered an interesting glitch during my second playthrough of the campaign and haven't found any mention about it yet. I played Belly of the Beast, got the cutscene afterwards and then I ended up on the bridge of the Hyperion instead of Warfield's camp on Char.

The fun part: Apparently it was originally planned by Blizzard to return to the ship. There are new dialogues with Matt and Swann which refer to the nydus mission:
Swann
Horner
Unfortunately there are none with Tychus or Stettman.

The archive includes all missions up to Char and the next mission from the mission selection screen is Gates of Hell. So now it's basically as if I never set foot on Char - just with new dialog options. I guess i'll try the air mission this time, maybe I get glitch dialogs for that, too.
Or maybe I'll even end up in All In with neither air nor nydus. Yeah, doubtful...
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 20:40:33
October 13 2010 20:38 GMT
#2
Wow, thats really awesome. Thanks for uploading these to youtube for us all to watch.

I wonder if there is dialogue after completing the air mission too.

EDIT: Watching them again, there was a good amount of foreshadowing about what would happen when the artifact was used on Kerrigan and it shows that Raynor has been thinking about saving her for a long time now. Good cut-scenes overall.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
October 13 2010 20:48 GMT
#3
Somehow i dont think this is a glitch or something, cause i can remember these cutscenes....

"if i fail, we are all dead man anyway" such a bad scene cant be forgotten
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
IndigoCZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Czech Republic52 Posts
October 13 2010 20:51 GMT
#4
Pretty cool stuff.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10304 Posts
October 13 2010 20:53 GMT
#5
lol, nice find

reminds me i should play the campaign again at some points, 2 playthroughs isn't gonna cut it
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ghostunit
Profile Joined August 2010
61 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 21:03:15
October 13 2010 21:02 GMT
#6
Raynor: as long as there's a chance to bring her back I'll never give up
Horner: but what if you fail? have you considered that?
Raynor: Matt, if we fail, we'll all dead men anyways

(Horner: yeah, real nice of you to risk all our lives just so you can get your girlfriend back)
iloyi
Profile Joined July 2010
12 Posts
October 14 2010 08:44 GMT
#7
nice find.

The glitch I observed (post patch 1.1.1) is after replaying piercing the shroud, it will return me to hyperion with the next mission being maw of the void. (I had completed the campaign btw.)

But like green.at said, I seem to hear some lines of the dialogue somewhere, maybe they reuse it?
busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
October 14 2010 12:01 GMT
#8
I have definitely heard those conversations before, can't remember when or how though
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
October 14 2010 14:03 GMT
#9
sigh. am i the only one who remembered what jimmy said in bw?

"Kerrigan, I will be the one that kills you one day. I'll be seeing you."

Now it's just this cliche feels good ending.
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DuneBug
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
October 14 2010 15:26 GMT
#10
Yeah i was pretty disappointed at the ending.

Felt like a soap opera.
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 15:58:48
October 14 2010 15:58 GMT
#11
remember there is another campaign to come in the expac..... perhaps the queen of blades will somehow return? maybe she gets kidnapped again or something
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
October 14 2010 16:23 GMT
#12

"Kerrigan, I will be the one that kills you one day. I'll be seeing you."


Was this before or after he tried to appeal to what little conscience Kerrigan still had on the surface?

"How many must die efore you realise what you've become"?

And how do you figure Jim would murder someone who is seemingly defensless and quite clearly transformed at least physically, regardless of whatever she meant to him?
Charlee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States60 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 19:18:35
October 14 2010 19:05 GMT
#13
All this talk about the ending of WoL and the complaints about the way in which they went about ending the campaign is really frustrating to listen to because it'd be like dismissing the entire story of broodwar after just finishing the protoss campaign. There's still 2 more chapters to go and this is Blizzard that we're talking about. At least wait to see what they do in Heart of the Swarm before judging the series too harshly. I firmly believe that this is just the surface layer and there are many plot twists and unforeseen developments to come. Personally I can't wait.
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ocd
Profile Joined October 2010
3 Posts
October 14 2010 20:52 GMT
#14
Update: My game is really glitched up. I went into Gates of Hell (again) and after finishing it I once more ended up aboard the Hyperion. The next available mission of course being: Gates of Hell once more. It's like the Starcraft Groundhog Day.

But the good news is that there were even more conversations, this time referring to Gates of Hell:
And here even the prince joins the fun. Suicide rush was a bad idea? Who'd have guessed?
Horner
Swann
Valerian

Of course now I really wanted it all and messed around with the savegame where I had the choice between Belly and Shatter and took to the sky because Matt was so whiny about the fliers. Yes, it also led back to the ship - with more things to say:
Horner is boring and just recycles most of his text, at least my friend Swann keeps on chatting. As if anyone needed even more not-so-subtle hints at what's to come.
Horner
Swann

Next mission: Gates of Hell.

I'd love to groundhog All In and bring Kerrigan back to the Hyperion and discover a secret conversation with Arcturus (or Duran even).
iloyi
Profile Joined July 2010
12 Posts
October 25 2010 08:09 GMT
#15
Waiting for more videos, hopefully you will get past the endless loop. Btw, how did u end up getting the glitches?
Sqalevon
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands523 Posts
October 25 2010 08:53 GMT
#16
On October 14 2010 17:44 iloyi wrote:
nice find.

The glitch I observed (post patch 1.1.1) is after replaying piercing the shroud, it will return me to hyperion with the next mission being maw of the void. (I had completed the campaign btw.)

But like green.at said, I seem to hear some lines of the dialogue somewhere, maybe they reuse it?


I've had the same glitch.
The good thing is, I was doing a playtrough without upgrades on the savegame I used and I still had all the money I saved up from the last mission. I'm sitting on 1.3m, only halfway trough in the storyline now
Should be fun to play the last missions with maxed units ^^
Chma
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden15 Posts
October 25 2010 10:12 GMT
#17
Hah! This was a weird find indeed.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
October 25 2010 10:59 GMT
#18
Wow!

These are freaking awesome - thanks a bunch.
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
October 25 2010 11:19 GMT
#19
Why would they remove some of these conversations? I'd have thought that at least the bit with Swann on Kerrigans odds of survival would have been good for anyone who is unfamiliar with SCI. The other conversations also added to the sense of the whole attack going terribly wrong. Maybe Blizzard figured that it would be kind of dumb for Raynor to be having all of this time for chatting with the crew in the context of a horribly executed invasion?
Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
October 25 2010 14:01 GMT
#20
It's not a glitch, you just haven't finished one of the earlier missions. I was in the same spot for a few days until I look at the past missions I had played and one or two of them wasn't completed. I think it was the one where you get those pink gas things and return them to base.
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TSM
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Great Britain584 Posts
October 25 2010 14:31 GMT
#21
On October 14 2010 23:03 da_head wrote:
sigh. am i the only one who remembered what jimmy said in bw?

"Kerrigan, I will be the one that kills you one day. I'll be seeing you."

Now it's just this cliche feels good ending.


its man that will kill you one day ^^

any way cool glitch but those cutscenes seem normal im no expert
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zingmars
Profile Joined April 2010
Latvia189 Posts
October 25 2010 16:31 GMT
#22
Probably it's laziness on Blizzards part. they probably intended you to get to the ship after those missions. Then they just decided -
"you know what? screw this. Let's make a new scene" .
They did that and probably forgot to 'comment' the code for returning part. I guess somehow you triggered it.
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Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
October 25 2010 16:37 GMT
#23
Laziness? You don't think maybe it was intentional? I thought about a bit more, and staying on the hyperion actually sounds a lot like something that Arcturus would do, wheras Jim is the total opposite of him in every way. He nearly always chooses to go for the classic cowboy style of doing things the hands on way where the danger is greatest. He's always been like that, ever since we had his disobey the confederacy when he was a Mar Sara marshall. Jim staying on the Hyperion for something like the Char invasion might seem kind of unusual.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 16:41:39
October 25 2010 16:40 GMT
#24
Did anyone else burst out laughing when Raynor said "git r done"?
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iloyi
Profile Joined July 2010
12 Posts
October 25 2010 17:15 GMT
#25
On October 25 2010 23:01 Seek wrote:
It's not a glitch, you just haven't finished one of the earlier missions. I was in the same spot for a few days until I look at the past missions I had played and one or two of them wasn't completed. I think it was the one where you get those pink gas things and return them to base.


I doubt that was the reason cause I finished the campaign (29/29). But maybe I should replay the Char missions, might bring me back to Hyperion just like Piercing the Shroud. Hmmm...
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
October 25 2010 18:31 GMT
#26
On October 26 2010 01:40 Archerofaiur wrote:
Did anyone else burst out laughing when Raynor said "git r done"?

Hahaha, I did!

Great videos, nice find!
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
October 25 2010 19:13 GMT
#27
Damn, this is awesome. Wonder if theres more.
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doktorFunken
Profile Joined September 2010
United States41 Posts
October 25 2010 20:24 GMT
#28
On October 15 2010 05:52 ocd wrote:

Valerian

On October 26 2010 01:40 Archerofaiur wrote:
Did anyone else burst out laughing when Raynor said "git r done"?


Heh, definitely channelling Larry the Cable Guy there.
All we need is a little Energon and a lot of luck.
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
October 25 2010 21:10 GMT
#29
On October 14 2010 05:25 ocd wrote:
Unfortunately there are none with Tychus or Stettman.


you did notice, tychus was killed in the last cinematic? why should they have made any additional dialogue for after that x)
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 25 2010 23:44 GMT
#30
On October 26 2010 06:10 MisterD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 05:25 ocd wrote:
Unfortunately there are none with Tychus or Stettman.


you did notice, tychus was killed in the last cinematic? why should they have made any additional dialogue for after that x)


You misinterpreted the OP, he returned to the Hyperion after Belly of the Beast, not All In. Therefore he is still alive.
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Skrattybones
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada37 Posts
October 26 2010 00:05 GMT
#31
So, I'm curious. I always wind up on the planet with some spare cash. If I remember correctly, once you're on the planet you're locked out of any additional mercenaries and/or upgrades. Does this allow you to spend the last of your cash?
Still learning/ First you get the zerglings. Then you get the power. THEN you get the women.
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
October 26 2010 00:07 GMT
#32
They may wanna keep tychus alive in HOTS. Taking out these dialogues would make that sort of possible instead of affirming his death 100%?
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.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 01:10:26
October 26 2010 01:06 GMT
#33
"I'll never give up on her."

vs

"It may not be tomorrow, darlin', it may not even happen with an army at my back. But rest assured: I'm the man who's gonna kill you one day."

I also enjoyed the first related video in the one with Matt. Mai Nishida Prt. 1, eh?

EDIT: Scratch that, she has terrible teeth.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
October 26 2010 01:44 GMT
#34
On October 26 2010 10:06 .Aar wrote:
"I'll never give up on her."

vs

"It may not be tomorrow, darlin', it may not even happen with an army at my back. But rest assured: I'm the man who's gonna kill you one day."

I also enjoyed the first related video in the one with Matt. Mai Nishida Prt. 1, eh?

EDIT: Scratch that, she has terrible teeth.


More like

"We gotta stop her Matt. No matter what she's after"

vs

"It may not be..." Oh... wait... I think the game is trying to tell us something.

Maybe... maybe that Jim, had still desired to kill the infested Kerrigan, and also, at the same time, wished that there was a way to change her back to before? Implossible!

CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
October 26 2010 05:21 GMT
#35
The only conversation of value is the one with swann, where he talks about people going through him to get to kerrigan. Which is definitely a foreshadow of whats to come in HotS.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
October 26 2010 08:30 GMT
#36
On October 14 2010 23:03 da_head wrote:
sigh. am i the only one who remembered what jimmy said in bw?

"Kerrigan, I will be the one that kills you one day. I'll be seeing you."

Now it's just this cliche feels good ending.


well, Jim Raynor actually killed the queen of blades, the infested Kerrigan is no more
right now, the real Kerrigan is back, but who knows?
the Protoss say that the only cure for the infestation is purification by fire.(meaning no cure) while dr. Ariel Hanson had her own ideas and beliefs.
There is also the superior technology of the Xel'Naga.
I guess Blizzard have plenty of lore to work around with.
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georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
October 26 2010 08:58 GMT
#37
I wonder if you could do this before the final Ariel mission, so you can check her for a convo as well. And also get spectres so you can talk with Tosh.

How did you edit your save? Can you edit it to get those two chars on the Hyperion?
ocd
Profile Joined October 2010
3 Posts
October 27 2010 14:53 GMT
#38
I did not edit anything. I just played Belly of the Beast and some random unexpected glitch apparently caused the game to lose the 'you're on char now' information. So I ended up on the ship then and again on all subsequent mission attempts (with that savegame and those following it).
The damage apparently happened after playing Gates of Hell because I could reload that save and pick the air mission with the same result.

Whatever caused it, Blizzard fixed it. After the last patch everything was completely back to normal. Loading those savegames now puts me on char and not the Hyperion any more. It's now like all of that never happened - except that I have videos.
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
October 27 2010 15:17 GMT
#39
Maybe Raynor just felt really angsty and shit at first when he lost his little gf and was like "dat bitch, I gotta get revenge on her mang" but then later on he started craving her and his relationship again and decided to have a little change of heart
Hyperion2010
Profile Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
October 27 2010 20:50 GMT
#40
Hrm ya, they REALLY needed to get these into the actual game since they fix a TON of the problems with the fact that Raynor just trusts arcturus jr, namely that it completely breaks his character.
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Gulf
Profile Joined May 2010
Scotland213 Posts
October 27 2010 23:26 GMT
#41
On October 15 2010 00:26 DuneBug wrote:
Yeah i was pretty disappointed at the ending.

Felt like a soap opera.


I hate how so many people feel this way, what you see at the end of WoL is not the ending, its like a commercial break, we've still got two more xpansions worth of story before we get the actual ending, so don't feel like this was the end result and everyone is living happily ever after somewhere.
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