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is awesome32280 Posts
On July 21 2026 00:38 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2026 18:39 Gorsameth wrote: I tuned out right after the whistle, so only just found out Argentina decided to have a fight on the pitch after losing, what in the actual fuck is wrong with these people.
Not just that they also turned their backs to Spain when they received the cup. This Argentina squad must be the saddest football team I've ever seen.
I see this narrative being pushed all over the place, but its expected with all the vitrol running on social media.
Argentina was looking at the area where most of their fans were still singing. Nothing to do with spain or the ceremony. France didn't stay for Argentina's ceremony when we got the WC in 2022. You don't see anyone making a deal out of that.
On July 21 2026 07:21 raidern_br wrote: get off the high horses for a second i've been to argentina like 8 times, i've never had a bad interaction with argentines in my life. definitely not like all argentines are like that at all. obviously in sports some football players can act like bullies but it's not all of them and it's not like only argentines do that. you're taking one event where they were clearly very emotionally involved and some of them didn't show their best version and then you are acting like argentine people is morally inferior or something.
with a quick google anyone can find instances where people from any country are acting like thugs or showing gamesmanship so just say whatever you want against the argentine team in this wc but don't extend it to the people.
It's just farming for clicks which is exacerbated by social media and AI. I have seen numerous edits of fouls, or press conferences with bad subtitles on purpose.
I watched Argentina vs England in Rio de Janeiro's airport because of a business trip. From what I saw on twitter of influencers going around other LATAM countries, I expected the atmosphere to be tense, but it was a chill watch. Some brazilians celebrated england's goal, some didn't. No one was agressive towards me or made me feel uneasy. Lots of argentinians in Rio (I went out a few nights in Copacabana) and I saw zero incidents.
I also work with a lot of mexican people. From what you see online you think they would rather see Messi loose, but a lot of them were happy when he got the cup in 2022. People need to stop reposting others people ideas online.
Bottom line is Argentina got further than expected but crumbled when facing one tidy rival. Lots of injuries and tired legs didn't help. Scaloni probably didn't want to make big changes mid-WC (like he had to do in 2022). Nico paz, Barco, Almada on the bench could have played more minutes, but Argentina was against the ropes all knockout stage to play around.
Spain played way better football all WC and are the deserved champions.
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France13011 Posts
On July 21 2026 15:57 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2026 07:06 Poopi wrote: Gg Spain, as expected Argentina were horrible bad, doing nothing for 110mn hoping for penalties FIFA carried them to another finals but they were too bad to make something out of it Spain dominant in the midfield and défense but struggling to actually score, but at least they tried Europe holds I'm from the US so I don't really appreciate the sport as people in this thread. But 0 shots on goal the entire time..... does that happen? i think the announcers suggested Argentina were planning on winning the game through penalty shootout. that cant be a legit strategy, right ? That’s a legit strategy if you are the inferior team, penalty shoot out has big enough variance (+ some goalkeepers are a bit better at it than others, or some are worse) It is utterly boring and has Little chance of working though
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United States10530 Posts
On July 22 2026 02:32 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2026 15:57 lestye wrote:On July 20 2026 07:06 Poopi wrote: Gg Spain, as expected Argentina were horrible bad, doing nothing for 110mn hoping for penalties FIFA carried them to another finals but they were too bad to make something out of it Spain dominant in the midfield and défense but struggling to actually score, but at least they tried Europe holds I'm from the US so I don't really appreciate the sport as people in this thread. But 0 shots on goal the entire time..... does that happen? i think the announcers suggested Argentina were planning on winning the game through penalty shootout. that cant be a legit strategy, right ? That’s a legit strategy if you are the inferior team, penalty shoot out has big enough variance (+ some goalkeepers are a bit better at it than others, or some are worse) It is utterly boring and has Little chance of working though Penalties would be incredible for Argentina and they would go into them as heavy favorites honestly. Dibu is a monster and saves at least one pen basically each shootout and has something like a 36% save rate. Spain is not a good penalty taking team, so it was the clear strategy outside of stealing a goal from some Messi magic.
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On July 21 2026 22:16 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2026 00:38 RvB wrote:On July 20 2026 18:39 Gorsameth wrote: I tuned out right after the whistle, so only just found out Argentina decided to have a fight on the pitch after losing, what in the actual fuck is wrong with these people.
Not just that they also turned their backs to Spain when they received the cup. This Argentina squad must be the saddest football team I've ever seen. I see this narrative being pushed all over the place, but its expected with all the vitrol running on social media. Argentina was looking at the area where most of their fans were still singing. Nothing to do with spain or the ceremony. France didn't stay for Argentina's ceremony when we got the WC in 2022. You don't see anyone making a deal out of that. Show nested quote +On July 21 2026 07:21 raidern_br wrote: get off the high horses for a second i've been to argentina like 8 times, i've never had a bad interaction with argentines in my life. definitely not like all argentines are like that at all. obviously in sports some football players can act like bullies but it's not all of them and it's not like only argentines do that. you're taking one event where they were clearly very emotionally involved and some of them didn't show their best version and then you are acting like argentine people is morally inferior or something.
with a quick google anyone can find instances where people from any country are acting like thugs or showing gamesmanship so just say whatever you want against the argentine team in this wc but don't extend it to the people.
It's just farming for clicks which is exacerbated by social media and AI. I have seen numerous edits of fouls, or press conferences with bad subtitles on purpose. I watched Argentina vs England in Rio de Janeiro's airport because of a business trip. From what I saw on twitter of influencers going around other LATAM countries, I expected the atmosphere to be tense, but it was a chill watch. Some brazilians celebrated england's goal, some didn't. No one was agressive towards me or made me feel uneasy. Lots of argentinians in Rio (I went out a few nights in Copacabana) and I saw zero incidents. I also work with a lot of mexican people. From what you see online you think they would rather see Messi loose, but a lot of them were happy when he got the cup in 2022. People need to stop reposting others people ideas online. Bottom line is Argentina got further than expected but crumbled when facing one tidy rival. Lots of injuries and tired legs didn't help. Scaloni probably didn't want to make big changes mid-WC (like he had to do in 2022). Nico paz, Barco, Almada on the bench could have played more minutes, but Argentina was against the ropes all knockout stage to play around. Spain played way better football all WC and are the deserved champions.
wow... There is no narrative or anything like that there... Spain did a GUARD OF HONOUR for Argentina even if they did not deserve it and when it is Spain's turn the Argentinians turned away.
France left early because Argentina were big c***s in victory
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On July 22 2026 04:49 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2026 22:16 IntoTheWow wrote:On July 21 2026 00:38 RvB wrote:On July 20 2026 18:39 Gorsameth wrote: I tuned out right after the whistle, so only just found out Argentina decided to have a fight on the pitch after losing, what in the actual fuck is wrong with these people.
Not just that they also turned their backs to Spain when they received the cup. This Argentina squad must be the saddest football team I've ever seen. I see this narrative being pushed all over the place, but its expected with all the vitrol running on social media. Argentina was looking at the area where most of their fans were still singing. Nothing to do with spain or the ceremony. France didn't stay for Argentina's ceremony when we got the WC in 2022. You don't see anyone making a deal out of that. On July 21 2026 07:21 raidern_br wrote: get off the high horses for a second i've been to argentina like 8 times, i've never had a bad interaction with argentines in my life. definitely not like all argentines are like that at all. obviously in sports some football players can act like bullies but it's not all of them and it's not like only argentines do that. you're taking one event where they were clearly very emotionally involved and some of them didn't show their best version and then you are acting like argentine people is morally inferior or something.
with a quick google anyone can find instances where people from any country are acting like thugs or showing gamesmanship so just say whatever you want against the argentine team in this wc but don't extend it to the people.
It's just farming for clicks which is exacerbated by social media and AI. I have seen numerous edits of fouls, or press conferences with bad subtitles on purpose. I watched Argentina vs England in Rio de Janeiro's airport because of a business trip. From what I saw on twitter of influencers going around other LATAM countries, I expected the atmosphere to be tense, but it was a chill watch. Some brazilians celebrated england's goal, some didn't. No one was agressive towards me or made me feel uneasy. Lots of argentinians in Rio (I went out a few nights in Copacabana) and I saw zero incidents. I also work with a lot of mexican people. From what you see online you think they would rather see Messi loose, but a lot of them were happy when he got the cup in 2022. People need to stop reposting others people ideas online. Bottom line is Argentina got further than expected but crumbled when facing one tidy rival. Lots of injuries and tired legs didn't help. Scaloni probably didn't want to make big changes mid-WC (like he had to do in 2022). Nico paz, Barco, Almada on the bench could have played more minutes, but Argentina was against the ropes all knockout stage to play around. Spain played way better football all WC and are the deserved champions. wow... There is no narrative or anything like that there... Spain did a GUARD OF HONOUR for Argentina even if they did not deserve it and when it is Spain's turn the Argentinians turned away. France left early because Argentina were big c***s in victory
I was surprised Spain did that tbh, not like Argentina deserved it. And yeah 2022 I would have left as well, Argentina didnt deserve any of it. As if people didnt watch the game.
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On July 22 2026 04:49 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2026 22:16 IntoTheWow wrote:On July 21 2026 00:38 RvB wrote:On July 20 2026 18:39 Gorsameth wrote: I tuned out right after the whistle, so only just found out Argentina decided to have a fight on the pitch after losing, what in the actual fuck is wrong with these people.
Not just that they also turned their backs to Spain when they received the cup. This Argentina squad must be the saddest football team I've ever seen. I see this narrative being pushed all over the place, but its expected with all the vitrol running on social media. Argentina was looking at the area where most of their fans were still singing. Nothing to do with spain or the ceremony. France didn't stay for Argentina's ceremony when we got the WC in 2022. You don't see anyone making a deal out of that. On July 21 2026 07:21 raidern_br wrote: get off the high horses for a second i've been to argentina like 8 times, i've never had a bad interaction with argentines in my life. definitely not like all argentines are like that at all. obviously in sports some football players can act like bullies but it's not all of them and it's not like only argentines do that. you're taking one event where they were clearly very emotionally involved and some of them didn't show their best version and then you are acting like argentine people is morally inferior or something.
with a quick google anyone can find instances where people from any country are acting like thugs or showing gamesmanship so just say whatever you want against the argentine team in this wc but don't extend it to the people.
It's just farming for clicks which is exacerbated by social media and AI. I have seen numerous edits of fouls, or press conferences with bad subtitles on purpose. I watched Argentina vs England in Rio de Janeiro's airport because of a business trip. From what I saw on twitter of influencers going around other LATAM countries, I expected the atmosphere to be tense, but it was a chill watch. Some brazilians celebrated england's goal, some didn't. No one was agressive towards me or made me feel uneasy. Lots of argentinians in Rio (I went out a few nights in Copacabana) and I saw zero incidents. I also work with a lot of mexican people. From what you see online you think they would rather see Messi loose, but a lot of them were happy when he got the cup in 2022. People need to stop reposting others people ideas online. Bottom line is Argentina got further than expected but crumbled when facing one tidy rival. Lots of injuries and tired legs didn't help. Scaloni probably didn't want to make big changes mid-WC (like he had to do in 2022). Nico paz, Barco, Almada on the bench could have played more minutes, but Argentina was against the ropes all knockout stage to play around. Spain played way better football all WC and are the deserved champions. wow... There is no narrative or anything like that there... Spain did a GUARD OF HONOUR for Argentina even if they did not deserve it and when it is Spain's turn the Argentinians turned away. France left early because Argentina were big c***s in victory
If Spain did a guard of honour, its because they think Argentina deserved it. Else they wouldn't have done it.
During the last 4 WC finals only 2 times the silver medal stayed in the field during the trophy ceremony: Argentina in 2014 and Argentina in 2026. Croatia left during France's ceremony because of what?
You keep talking about Argentina turning away when theres several shots of Messi crying at the crowd singing for them. I don't know what else to tell you if you cannot see that the team was looking at the crowd, not looking away from Spain.
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France13011 Posts
On July 22 2026 04:20 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2026 02:32 Poopi wrote:On July 21 2026 15:57 lestye wrote:On July 20 2026 07:06 Poopi wrote: Gg Spain, as expected Argentina were horrible bad, doing nothing for 110mn hoping for penalties FIFA carried them to another finals but they were too bad to make something out of it Spain dominant in the midfield and défense but struggling to actually score, but at least they tried Europe holds I'm from the US so I don't really appreciate the sport as people in this thread. But 0 shots on goal the entire time..... does that happen? i think the announcers suggested Argentina were planning on winning the game through penalty shootout. that cant be a legit strategy, right ? That’s a legit strategy if you are the inferior team, penalty shoot out has big enough variance (+ some goalkeepers are a bit better at it than others, or some are worse) It is utterly boring and has Little chance of working though Penalties would be incredible for Argentina and they would go into them as heavy favorites honestly. Dibu is a monster and saves at least one pen basically each shootout and has something like a 36% save rate. Spain is not a good penalty taking team, so it was the clear strategy outside of stealing a goal from some Messi magic. Oh yeah penalties would be in their favor, I meant hoping to defend for 120mn straight is a bad strategy
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Yeah, as a Spaniard I was very scared in the extra time because I knew they probably would win at penalties with the Dibu and their shenanigans.
So Ferran goal was such a relief.
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On July 22 2026 06:40 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2026 04:49 sharkie wrote:On July 21 2026 22:16 IntoTheWow wrote:On July 21 2026 00:38 RvB wrote:On July 20 2026 18:39 Gorsameth wrote: I tuned out right after the whistle, so only just found out Argentina decided to have a fight on the pitch after losing, what in the actual fuck is wrong with these people.
Not just that they also turned their backs to Spain when they received the cup. This Argentina squad must be the saddest football team I've ever seen. I see this narrative being pushed all over the place, but its expected with all the vitrol running on social media. Argentina was looking at the area where most of their fans were still singing. Nothing to do with spain or the ceremony. France didn't stay for Argentina's ceremony when we got the WC in 2022. You don't see anyone making a deal out of that. On July 21 2026 07:21 raidern_br wrote: get off the high horses for a second i've been to argentina like 8 times, i've never had a bad interaction with argentines in my life. definitely not like all argentines are like that at all. obviously in sports some football players can act like bullies but it's not all of them and it's not like only argentines do that. you're taking one event where they were clearly very emotionally involved and some of them didn't show their best version and then you are acting like argentine people is morally inferior or something.
with a quick google anyone can find instances where people from any country are acting like thugs or showing gamesmanship so just say whatever you want against the argentine team in this wc but don't extend it to the people.
It's just farming for clicks which is exacerbated by social media and AI. I have seen numerous edits of fouls, or press conferences with bad subtitles on purpose. I watched Argentina vs England in Rio de Janeiro's airport because of a business trip. From what I saw on twitter of influencers going around other LATAM countries, I expected the atmosphere to be tense, but it was a chill watch. Some brazilians celebrated england's goal, some didn't. No one was agressive towards me or made me feel uneasy. Lots of argentinians in Rio (I went out a few nights in Copacabana) and I saw zero incidents. I also work with a lot of mexican people. From what you see online you think they would rather see Messi loose, but a lot of them were happy when he got the cup in 2022. People need to stop reposting others people ideas online. Bottom line is Argentina got further than expected but crumbled when facing one tidy rival. Lots of injuries and tired legs didn't help. Scaloni probably didn't want to make big changes mid-WC (like he had to do in 2022). Nico paz, Barco, Almada on the bench could have played more minutes, but Argentina was against the ropes all knockout stage to play around. Spain played way better football all WC and are the deserved champions. wow... There is no narrative or anything like that there... Spain did a GUARD OF HONOUR for Argentina even if they did not deserve it and when it is Spain's turn the Argentinians turned away. France left early because Argentina were big c***s in victory If Spain did a guard of honour, its because they think Argentina deserved it. Else they wouldn't have done it. During the last 4 WC finals only 2 times the silver medal stayed in the field during the trophy ceremony: Argentina in 2014 and Argentina in 2026. Croatia left during France's ceremony because of what? You keep talking about Argentina turning away when theres several shots of Messi crying at the crowd singing for them. I don't know what else to tell you if you cannot see that the team was looking at the crowd, not looking away from Spain.
Honestly, media reporting here did not make a big deal out of staying or leaving but of punching people in the face or throat. That is not acceptable behavior no matter how you put it
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On July 22 2026 04:49 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2026 22:16 IntoTheWow wrote:On July 21 2026 00:38 RvB wrote:On July 20 2026 18:39 Gorsameth wrote: I tuned out right after the whistle, so only just found out Argentina decided to have a fight on the pitch after losing, what in the actual fuck is wrong with these people.
Not just that they also turned their backs to Spain when they received the cup. This Argentina squad must be the saddest football team I've ever seen. I see this narrative being pushed all over the place, but its expected with all the vitrol running on social media. Argentina was looking at the area where most of their fans were still singing. Nothing to do with spain or the ceremony. France didn't stay for Argentina's ceremony when we got the WC in 2022. You don't see anyone making a deal out of that. On July 21 2026 07:21 raidern_br wrote: get off the high horses for a second i've been to argentina like 8 times, i've never had a bad interaction with argentines in my life. definitely not like all argentines are like that at all. obviously in sports some football players can act like bullies but it's not all of them and it's not like only argentines do that. you're taking one event where they were clearly very emotionally involved and some of them didn't show their best version and then you are acting like argentine people is morally inferior or something.
with a quick google anyone can find instances where people from any country are acting like thugs or showing gamesmanship so just say whatever you want against the argentine team in this wc but don't extend it to the people.
It's just farming for clicks which is exacerbated by social media and AI. I have seen numerous edits of fouls, or press conferences with bad subtitles on purpose. I watched Argentina vs England in Rio de Janeiro's airport because of a business trip. From what I saw on twitter of influencers going around other LATAM countries, I expected the atmosphere to be tense, but it was a chill watch. Some brazilians celebrated england's goal, some didn't. No one was agressive towards me or made me feel uneasy. Lots of argentinians in Rio (I went out a few nights in Copacabana) and I saw zero incidents. I also work with a lot of mexican people. From what you see online you think they would rather see Messi loose, but a lot of them were happy when he got the cup in 2022. People need to stop reposting others people ideas online. Bottom line is Argentina got further than expected but crumbled when facing one tidy rival. Lots of injuries and tired legs didn't help. Scaloni probably didn't want to make big changes mid-WC (like he had to do in 2022). Nico paz, Barco, Almada on the bench could have played more minutes, but Argentina was against the ropes all knockout stage to play around. Spain played way better football all WC and are the deserved champions. wow... There is no narrative or anything like that there... Spain did a GUARD OF HONOUR for Argentina even if they did not deserve it and when it is Spain's turn the Argentinians turned away. France left early because Argentina were big c***s in victory The guard of honour by the winners is standard protocol. Rather easy to do if you've won the most important prize in your career.
On July 22 2026 06:40 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2026 04:49 sharkie wrote:On July 21 2026 22:16 IntoTheWow wrote:On July 21 2026 00:38 RvB wrote:On July 20 2026 18:39 Gorsameth wrote: I tuned out right after the whistle, so only just found out Argentina decided to have a fight on the pitch after losing, what in the actual fuck is wrong with these people.
Not just that they also turned their backs to Spain when they received the cup. This Argentina squad must be the saddest football team I've ever seen. I see this narrative being pushed all over the place, but its expected with all the vitrol running on social media. Argentina was looking at the area where most of their fans were still singing. Nothing to do with spain or the ceremony. France didn't stay for Argentina's ceremony when we got the WC in 2022. You don't see anyone making a deal out of that. On July 21 2026 07:21 raidern_br wrote: get off the high horses for a second i've been to argentina like 8 times, i've never had a bad interaction with argentines in my life. definitely not like all argentines are like that at all. obviously in sports some football players can act like bullies but it's not all of them and it's not like only argentines do that. you're taking one event where they were clearly very emotionally involved and some of them didn't show their best version and then you are acting like argentine people is morally inferior or something.
with a quick google anyone can find instances where people from any country are acting like thugs or showing gamesmanship so just say whatever you want against the argentine team in this wc but don't extend it to the people.
It's just farming for clicks which is exacerbated by social media and AI. I have seen numerous edits of fouls, or press conferences with bad subtitles on purpose. I watched Argentina vs England in Rio de Janeiro's airport because of a business trip. From what I saw on twitter of influencers going around other LATAM countries, I expected the atmosphere to be tense, but it was a chill watch. Some brazilians celebrated england's goal, some didn't. No one was agressive towards me or made me feel uneasy. Lots of argentinians in Rio (I went out a few nights in Copacabana) and I saw zero incidents. I also work with a lot of mexican people. From what you see online you think they would rather see Messi loose, but a lot of them were happy when he got the cup in 2022. People need to stop reposting others people ideas online. Bottom line is Argentina got further than expected but crumbled when facing one tidy rival. Lots of injuries and tired legs didn't help. Scaloni probably didn't want to make big changes mid-WC (like he had to do in 2022). Nico paz, Barco, Almada on the bench could have played more minutes, but Argentina was against the ropes all knockout stage to play around. Spain played way better football all WC and are the deserved champions. wow... There is no narrative or anything like that there... Spain did a GUARD OF HONOUR for Argentina even if they did not deserve it and when it is Spain's turn the Argentinians turned away. France left early because Argentina were big c***s in victory If Spain did a guard of honour, its because they think Argentina deserved it. Else they wouldn't have done it. During the last 4 WC finals only 2 times the silver medal stayed in the field during the trophy ceremony: Argentina in 2014 and Argentina in 2026. Croatia left during France's ceremony because of what? You keep talking about Argentina turning away when theres several shots of Messi crying at the crowd singing for them. I don't know what else to tell you if you cannot see that the team was looking at the crowd, not looking away from Spain. There was zero interaction with the fans at that moment. None of the players are even looking. It's quite clear what was happening and having your back turned at that moment takes a conscious effort. Whatever France did last time is irrelevant because they 1. What they did can also be disrespectful and 2. There's a difference between walking away and making a disrespectful gesture.
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In the context of the general hate on Argentina after the match, it reminded me of the bad fame - deserved - that portugal and portuguese teams have had in the past for flopping and just trying to cheat with small antics during games. I think that this has died down a lot recently thanks to VAR, the fact many players play in England and a professionalization of our academies. It really has changed the mentality of our players on the pitch.
Unfortunately now that means that the only reason to actually talk about the portuguese team is because of the 41 year old.
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On July 23 2026 20:26 warding wrote: In the context of the general hate on Argentina after the match, it reminded me of the bad fame - deserved - that portugal and portuguese teams have had in the past for flopping and just trying to cheat with small antics during games. I think that this has died down a lot recently thanks to VAR, the fact many players play in England and a professionalization of our academies. It really has changed the mentality of our players on the pitch.
Unfortunately now that means that the only reason to actually talk about the portuguese team is because of the 41 year old.
The "no contact" flopping has been tuned down, and VAR punished a few instances.
The theatrcal flops with SOME contact have not gone anywhere though. Players use them to get the attention of both the ref and VAR, and it gets rewarded with cards to the opponent, free kicks, penalties and cancelled goals, and it is never punished. Faking injuries is part of the game, and it is disgusting.
Especially with VAR, si would love that flops by light touches could also be punished with yellow cards.
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klopp finally confirmed as the new german head coach - this next euro's will be extremely entertaining
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Spain powerhouse, Zidane France, Klopp Germany, maybe Pep Italy? Portugal new coach
this will be CRAZY
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Pep apparently turned down Italy. Would have loved some rivalry between Pep and Kloppo
EDIT: Mark van Bommel for Belgium!
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Just saw that Newcastle have signed Bazoumana Toure from Hoffenheim during the world cup. This is a fantastic pickup imo
He's 20, left footer, super fast, 15 g/a in 30 games last season and was excellent for my Bundesliga fantasy team. He likes to cross from the left rather than cut inside and is very good at it, I think he and Woltemade are going to be a great match.
Unfortunate for Hoffenheim though, that's a big hole to fill.
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On July 24 2026 22:27 Harris1st wrote: Pep apparently turned down Italy. Would have loved some rivalry between Pep and Kloppo
EDIT: Mark van Bommel for Belgium!
And Pirlo for Italy. No idea how he is as a manager but he is the type of player who tends to do well.
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On July 26 2026 02:12 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2026 22:27 Harris1st wrote: Pep apparently turned down Italy. Would have loved some rivalry between Pep and Kloppo
EDIT: Mark van Bommel for Belgium! And Pirlo for Italy. No idea how he is as a manager but he is the type of player who tends to do well. Pirlo's record definitely looks pretty sketchy on a quick glance. Managed in Juve U23 and 3 clubs in Italy and Turkey, but never stuck around more than a year. Currently he's on a managerial stint in Dubai.
I guess a respected legend can sort out some of the internal issues, but I don't think there's going to be any managerial masterclass based on his efforts so far.
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Pirlo seems to be involved with some shady Russian betting site as well... I highly doubt he'll be the savior Italy hopes for.
On other news, since Real can't get Olise they are going all out on Yan Diomande. 100mio+ Leipzig is making some crazy big bucks this season
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