EPT2023 - 2024 Football Thread - Page 16
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KobraKay
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sharkie
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GTR
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6317 Posts
On September 03 2023 14:48 mahrgell wrote: And absolutely everyone here blamed him for signing that contract... Should bet on himself, he is limiting himself blabla, so many lost opportunities/earnings... That's not how it went. The discussion starts with Sharkie arguing the contract is a lose-lose-lose, you not agreeing, and then everyone debates the pros and cons of long contracts for clubs and players. There were multiple people who thought it was a good deal for Mudryk. https://tl.net/forum/sports/596890-2022-2023-football-thread?page=68 | ||
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sharkie
Austria18745 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27359 Posts
On September 03 2023 18:25 RvB wrote: That's not how it went. The discussion starts with Sharkie arguing the contract is a lose-lose-lose, you not agreeing, and then everyone debates the pros and cons of long contracts for clubs and players. There were multiple people who thought it was a good deal for Mudryk. https://tl.net/forum/sports/596890-2022-2023-football-thread?page=68 It’s a good deal for Chelsea if he explodes as a player and they can name their price, and they don’t have to continually give him big pay bumps as the end of his contract isn’t looming over them. At least financially it’s a good deal for Mudryk if he plays terribly because he’s still on a long term contract and decent wages for years. On September 03 2023 18:37 sharkie wrote: How can so many scouts been fooled by him? They likely weren’t they just paid silly money for him. He’s undoubtedly a better player than this, whatever is going on with him he had an actively good game initially and fell off a cliff. They’re human beings end of the day, Chelsea being a basket case last season where almost nobody played well certainly didn’t help. Being the hundred million player playing terribly just puts a bigger spotlight on you. If he went to Arsenal I’d wager he’d be at least a decent Prem operator by now, if perhaps not worthy of that kind of fee. Still think they’re going to challenge for Europe and Poch is a more accomplished coach than Big Ange (thus far) mind :p | ||
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DropBear
Australia4436 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9999 Posts
edit: Wow Rashford is awesome. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18745 Posts
On September 03 2023 22:27 WombaT wrote: It’s a good deal for Chelsea if he explodes as a player and they can name their price, and they don’t have to continually give him big pay bumps as the end of his contract isn’t looming over them. At least financially it’s a good deal for Mudryk if he plays terribly because he’s still on a long term contract and decent wages for years. They likely weren’t they just paid silly money for him. He’s undoubtedly a better player than this, whatever is going on with him he had an actively good game initially and fell off a cliff. They’re human beings end of the day, Chelsea being a basket case last season where almost nobody played well certainly didn’t help. Being the hundred million player playing terribly just puts a bigger spotlight on you. If he went to Arsenal I’d wager he’d be at least a decent Prem operator by now, if perhaps not worthy of that kind of fee. Still think they’re going to challenge for Europe and Poch is a more accomplished coach than Big Ange (thus far) mind :p Are you willing to sigbet? I say spurs finishes above chelsea because ange is better! | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18438 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18745 Posts
On September 04 2023 02:28 Acrofales wrote: What if I think Poch is a better coach, but Chelsea is such a shitshow otherwise that Spurs will still end above them? Spurs squad is definitely worse than Chelsea's. So how is Poch better than Ange if he cant get the best out of his players? | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2102 Posts
On September 03 2023 23:45 DropBear wrote: Aston Villa fans singing god save the king in the 83rd minute gave me a good chuckle What is the 83 referring here? Some of the cultural is stuff is a bit obscure for a Finn. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27359 Posts
On September 04 2023 03:06 sharkie wrote: Spurs squad is definitely worse than Chelsea's. So how is Poch better than Ange if he cant get the best out of his players? He’s been there 5 minutes! Last game was a shitshow, their first two games were pretty decent. I’d pick Chelsea over Spurs every day of the week if I was playing FIFA or Football Manager, not sure I would when I’m dealing with actual humans. If Chelsea would just stop signing new players their coaches clearly haven’t requested every 5 minutes it would serve them well. If there’s a lesson from the last 10/15 years of football it’s there is no substitute for cohesive planning from top to bottom of a club. The Boehly way of doing things has already swallowed up an accomplished operator in Tuchel and a promising coach on the upward curve in Potter. Perhaps Poch is the latest in that increasingly ignominious line, perhaps he figures how to make it work. Ange has in ways the easier job. They’ve sold a talisman, not a huge amount is expected and they’ve signed decent players to a sensibly sized and settled squad. Poch is walking into a shitshow where there’s still huge expectation, but there is more upside. As Acro said really. I think it’s great to see an Ange make it to the Prem via the route he has and hit the ground running, he’s clearly a good coach, just at this level he’s not really done what a Poch has, or an Emery or more yet than a Brendan Rogers Still think Chelsea have it in them to make a European push though. United don’t look all that, Spurs are well, Spurs, can Newcastle keep vaulting every new hurdle effortlessly? Not sure I’ll go the sig bet route but I may yet! | ||
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DropBear
Australia4436 Posts
On September 04 2023 04:04 Bacillus wrote: What is the 83 referring here? Some of the cultural is stuff is a bit obscure for a Finn. The minute didn't matter, Villa were 3-0 down and had been battered so the travelling fans decided to have some fun. Liverpool fans routinely boo the national anthem, so the Villa fans started singing it to annoy them. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7402 Posts
On September 04 2023 00:57 Jockmcplop wrote: United timewasting as much as they can from minute 1 vs Arsenal. edit: Wow Rashford is awesome. Well that time wasting bid them in the arse big time. Goals 90 + 6 and 90 + 12 lol just saw the highlights... omg Kai. WTF are you even. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2102 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18745 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
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