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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
January 15 2023 17:32 GMT
#1341
On January 16 2023 00:05 plasmidghost wrote:
Mudryk signed with Chelsea to an 8.5 year contract. What the fuck


thats insane
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 15 2023 17:48 GMT
#1342
Its to abuse FFP, we only put it down as a £10 million spent per season now, this is how you negate FFP with long contracts.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
January 15 2023 17:49 GMT
#1343
On January 16 2023 02:48 Pandemona wrote:
Its to abuse FFP, we only put it down as a £10 million spent per season now, this is how you negate FFP with long contracts.


But why would a player agree to that? Its a lose-lose-lose for a player
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
January 15 2023 18:09 GMT
#1344
On January 16 2023 02:49 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2023 02:48 Pandemona wrote:
Its to abuse FFP, we only put it down as a £10 million spent per season now, this is how you negate FFP with long contracts.


But why would a player agree to that? Its a lose-lose-lose for a player

Yeah like, if Mudrky doesn't deliver he's going to be stuck in some random club in the Netherlands or Turkey on loan and no one will buy his contract out
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
January 15 2023 18:10 GMT
#1345
On January 16 2023 02:49 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2023 02:48 Pandemona wrote:
Its to abuse FFP, we only put it down as a £10 million spent per season now, this is how you negate FFP with long contracts.


But why would a player agree to that? Its a lose-lose-lose for a player


If he is offered a salary far beyond what he believes he can get elsewhere now or in the future, a longer running contract surely isn't a lose lose lose for him...
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
January 15 2023 18:32 GMT
#1346
He's 22 - if he doesnt think he will become even better to deserve even better salary than he will earn now then I wouldnt even want him in my club o.o
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
January 15 2023 18:33 GMT
#1347
I was hoping to see him in a promising Arsenal lineup, potentially to become EPL champion in half of the year, but here we are

As far as I understood Mudryk have a choice either to stay in Shakhtar for at least 6 more months, or to join Chelsea instantly, and this is bc of the management choices :/ So it was a golden cage indeed
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 15 2023 18:55 GMT
#1348
He was offered 50k a week from low balling Arsenal and Chelsea gave him 100k a week is the report....why wouldn't he agree to that.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 15 2023 19:54 GMT
#1349
Man Barca are killing Madrid. Up 2-0 at the half.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
January 15 2023 19:58 GMT
#1350
On January 16 2023 03:55 Pandemona wrote:
He was offered 50k a week from low balling Arsenal and Chelsea gave him 100k a week is the report....why wouldn't he agree to that.


If he becomes world class in 2 years and is stuck for another 6 years with only 100k he will shoot himself lol
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6240 Posts
January 15 2023 20:47 GMT
#1351
On January 16 2023 04:58 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2023 03:55 Pandemona wrote:
He was offered 50k a week from low balling Arsenal and Chelsea gave him 100k a week is the report....why wouldn't he agree to that.


If he becomes world class in 2 years and is stuck for another 6 years with only 100k he will shoot himself lol

And if he injures himself and never gets back to his old level he will be very happy with the deal. It's life changing money to earn that much and he will make it for 8.5 years. Most people would take this deal since there's no guarantee you'll ever get another offer as good as this one.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
January 15 2023 21:29 GMT
#1352
shades of danny drinkwater
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
January 15 2023 21:51 GMT
#1353
On January 16 2023 05:47 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2023 04:58 sharkie wrote:
On January 16 2023 03:55 Pandemona wrote:
He was offered 50k a week from low balling Arsenal and Chelsea gave him 100k a week is the report....why wouldn't he agree to that.


If he becomes world class in 2 years and is stuck for another 6 years with only 100k he will shoot himself lol

And if he injures himself and never gets back to his old level he will be very happy with the deal. It's life changing money to earn that much and he will make it for 8.5 years. Most people would take this deal since there's no guarantee you'll ever get another offer as good as this one.


Yes thats why there are so many 8 year deals in Football...
Chelsea abused the ignorancy of the poor kid
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8715 Posts
January 16 2023 00:25 GMT
#1354
i think weve all seen with harry kane why long contracts are shit. for footballers playing at big clubs, money shouldnt be a concern. if youre willing to imprison yourself at a club and forfeit your freedom of choice for a few extra million youre an idiot
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
January 16 2023 02:14 GMT
#1355
On January 16 2023 09:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i think weve all seen with harry kane why long contracts are shit. for footballers playing at big clubs, money shouldnt be a concern. if youre willing to imprison yourself at a club and forfeit your freedom of choice for a few extra million youre an idiot

It's so confusing to me that Kane will be Spurs' best ever player and have not a single thing to show for it when he could've gone to another club and won a ton of championships
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-16 03:40:50
January 16 2023 03:38 GMT
#1356
Spurs GOAT? That's either Ginola or Anderton!

Anyway, it's so rare to see a loyal club servant nowadays. I still don't rate Kane as world-class (at the same level of Griezmann or Benzema, for a close like-for-like comparison) and doubt he's much of a transfer target to teams outside the EPL (the same way that Beckam was then and Bellingham is right now). That said, I have much respect for his loyalty and team-first attitude.
gg no re thx
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8715 Posts
January 16 2023 03:57 GMT
#1357
overlooking the fact that griezmann and benzema dont really play the same roles, i wouldnt put griezmann on benzema level and i would rate harry kane higher than griezmann. honestly if kane had been playing at city or any other top team (though admittedly, no other team has really pushed for him. maybe due to not wanting to deal with levy), he would be probably have been in the same category as benzema, lewandowski, suarez etc.
his goal scoring ability even in a shit team like tottenham is still impressive and hes a much more well rounded player than say, haaland. at a top team hed have the titles to back it up too
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4371 Posts
January 16 2023 05:19 GMT
#1358
On January 16 2023 12:38 RKC wrote:
Spurs GOAT? That's either Ginola or Anderton!

Anyway, it's so rare to see a loyal club servant nowadays. I still don't rate Kane as world-class (at the same level of Griezmann or Benzema, for a close like-for-like comparison) and doubt he's much of a transfer target to teams outside the EPL (the same way that Beckam was then and Bellingham is right now). That said, I have much respect for his loyalty and team-first attitude.

Surely Jimmy Greaves is in completely uncontested territory for Spurs GOAT
Sucker for nostalgia
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-16 05:44:38
January 16 2023 05:42 GMT
#1359
Kane used to be a pure striker like Benzema. But now he's transforming into a deeper forward role like Griezmann during last WC (not sure if he's playing the same role in AM this season as well). That's what I meant. Obviously Benzema and Griezmann aren't quite the same type of player.

Anyway, point is, despite his immense skill and technical ability for an Englishmen, I doubt whether Kane is highly regarded universally by top European teams in last 3-4 seasons. Put money aside. Would Bayern swap Kane for Lewandowski? Or Real for Benzema? Or Barca for Griezmann?

Yes, Jimmy Greaves is probably still GOAT. Kidding about the other two
gg no re thx
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-16 05:54:22
January 16 2023 05:53 GMT
#1360
Unpopular thought: Arsenal is playing better football since gabriel jesus has become injured. Eddie does a real good job leading the line and now more balls are shared between arsenals wingers and midfielders than when jesus was playing

As an Arsenal fan I am really happy jesus isnt playing for us atm. Jesus just wastes too many good chances and opportunities
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