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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7162 Posts
July 06 2023 13:05 GMT
#2841
On July 06 2023 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2023 21:24 sharkie wrote:
On July 06 2023 21:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
I need next season to start already.
Summer is so crap.
All there is is the u21s Euro final and then the women's world cup.


I love watching women's world cup!


TBH I usually get really into it by the later stages, its definitely a good watch, but the feeling of tension and stakes just isn't quite there like it is with even just your average Premier League game.


I feel like most of the tension was if anyone in Europe will even get to watch. And the next problem is most games are like middle of the night or very early morning. I can see myself following the YT highlights though
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 06 2023 19:48 GMT
#2842
On July 06 2023 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2023 20:41 sharkie wrote:
On July 06 2023 20:28 Harris1st wrote:
On July 06 2023 03:10 sharkie wrote:
Lol and how do psg want to force a club and a Player to do their bidding? Especially since psg prolly wants like 150mil for him


They could just not field him for a season which would certainly dampen interests of other clubs. Horribly expensive but you never know what goes on in people heads when they are on a power trip


That would lose PSG way more money than a transfer fee would get them XD

Well, you can definitely bluff that you're going to bench him to pressure him into signing a new contract now (or getting a transfer).


how is this even a good idea. i would just go public and full scorch earth on the club and absolutely no one would take the club's side on that one. it would be way more damaging to the club if they did that and it went public.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18278 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-06 20:00:37
July 06 2023 19:57 GMT
#2843
On July 07 2023 04:48 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2023 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
On July 06 2023 20:41 sharkie wrote:
On July 06 2023 20:28 Harris1st wrote:
On July 06 2023 03:10 sharkie wrote:
Lol and how do psg want to force a club and a Player to do their bidding? Especially since psg prolly wants like 150mil for him


They could just not field him for a season which would certainly dampen interests of other clubs. Horribly expensive but you never know what goes on in people heads when they are on a power trip


That would lose PSG way more money than a transfer fee would get them XD

Well, you can definitely bluff that you're going to bench him to pressure him into signing a new contract now (or getting a transfer).


how is this even a good idea. i would just go public and full scorch earth on the club and absolutely no one would take the club's side on that one. it would be way more damaging to the club if they did that and it went public.


You mean threatening to bench him if he won't sign a new contract? It happens all the time.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-07 15:13:34
July 07 2023 15:12 GMT
#2844
So PSG is basically hoping either A.) He accepts. or B.) If he doesn't they ask for such an asinine amount that he is benched a result because no Club will pay such a high price tag....? I mean 150 million isn't that much when one thinks about it.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 07 2023 18:29 GMT
#2845
PSG has 0 leverage
no one will buy mbappe for 150m if he is unwilling to sign an extension
not sure what benching mbappe is going to do, psg still has to pay him even if they dont play him. if he doesnt sign, just play him, at least you'll maybe win something. if he gets hurt, well who cares, he's not your player next year anyways (from PSG's point of view)
Vinekh
Profile Joined September 2021
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-07 20:33:52
July 07 2023 20:27 GMT
#2846
I'm pretty sure they can't just sell him. He has to agree as well.
PSG and their owner just look pathetic. They signed a contract and now they realize how bad it is and are trying to intimidate (or whatever) Mbappe into signing stuff. Maybe this shit flies in Qatar when you are buddies with the emir. It doesn't in Europe.

On July 07 2023 04:57 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2023 04:48 zev318 wrote:
On July 06 2023 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
On July 06 2023 20:41 sharkie wrote:
On July 06 2023 20:28 Harris1st wrote:
On July 06 2023 03:10 sharkie wrote:
Lol and how do psg want to force a club and a Player to do their bidding? Especially since psg prolly wants like 150mil for him


They could just not field him for a season which would certainly dampen interests of other clubs. Horribly expensive but you never know what goes on in people heads when they are on a power trip


That would lose PSG way more money than a transfer fee would get them XD

Well, you can definitely bluff that you're going to bench him to pressure him into signing a new contract now (or getting a transfer).


how is this even a good idea. i would just go public and full scorch earth on the club and absolutely no one would take the club's side on that one. it would be way more damaging to the club if they did that and it went public.


You mean threatening to bench him if he won't sign a new contract? It happens all the time.


So Mbappe will just collect his salary for watching the Ligue 1 season from the bench. He will not lose his spot in the national team. Also Real Madrid will just sign him the next season with a signing bonus.
I don't see what PSG is winning here.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26736 Posts
July 07 2023 22:42 GMT
#2847
As talented as Mbappe is, PSG have absurdly overindulged him

I don’t think he comes out with a great amount of credit for his behaviour last couple of years either tbh
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18278 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-07 23:34:13
July 07 2023 23:33 GMT
#2848
On July 08 2023 05:27 Vinekh wrote:
I'm pretty sure they can't just sell him. He has to agree as well.
PSG and their owner just look pathetic. They signed a contract and now they realize how bad it is and are trying to intimidate (or whatever) Mbappe into signing stuff. Maybe this shit flies in Qatar when you are buddies with the emir. It doesn't in Europe.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2023 04:57 Acrofales wrote:
On July 07 2023 04:48 zev318 wrote:
On July 06 2023 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
On July 06 2023 20:41 sharkie wrote:
On July 06 2023 20:28 Harris1st wrote:
On July 06 2023 03:10 sharkie wrote:
Lol and how do psg want to force a club and a Player to do their bidding? Especially since psg prolly wants like 150mil for him


They could just not field him for a season which would certainly dampen interests of other clubs. Horribly expensive but you never know what goes on in people heads when they are on a power trip


That would lose PSG way more money than a transfer fee would get them XD

Well, you can definitely bluff that you're going to bench him to pressure him into signing a new contract now (or getting a transfer).


how is this even a good idea. i would just go public and full scorch earth on the club and absolutely no one would take the club's side on that one. it would be way more damaging to the club if they did that and it went public.


You mean threatening to bench him if he won't sign a new contract? It happens all the time.


So Mbappe will just collect his salary for watching the Ligue 1 season from the bench. He will not lose his spot in the national team. Also Real Madrid will just sign him the next season with a signing bonus.
I don't see what PSG is winning here.


They aren't winning anything. They're setting an example for their other stars who might have more to lose. Sure, I don't think anybody as high profile as Mbappe has been benched over contractual disagreements, but lesser players definitely have, and that is exactly what happens: they show up to practice, and don't ever get to play a match. They lose game rhythm and the chance to shine in the public eye. Sometimes they lose their spot in the national team (obviously unlikely for Mbappe). Mostly the salary isn't as absurd as what Mbappe earns nor is the transfer fee. But it's a difference of scale, not something that hasn't been done before.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 08 2023 01:24 GMT
#2849
Mark your calendars.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4282 Posts
July 08 2023 08:06 GMT
#2850
On July 08 2023 08:33 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2023 05:27 Vinekh wrote:
I'm pretty sure they can't just sell him. He has to agree as well.
PSG and their owner just look pathetic. They signed a contract and now they realize how bad it is and are trying to intimidate (or whatever) Mbappe into signing stuff. Maybe this shit flies in Qatar when you are buddies with the emir. It doesn't in Europe.

On July 07 2023 04:57 Acrofales wrote:
On July 07 2023 04:48 zev318 wrote:
On July 06 2023 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
On July 06 2023 20:41 sharkie wrote:
On July 06 2023 20:28 Harris1st wrote:
On July 06 2023 03:10 sharkie wrote:
Lol and how do psg want to force a club and a Player to do their bidding? Especially since psg prolly wants like 150mil for him


They could just not field him for a season which would certainly dampen interests of other clubs. Horribly expensive but you never know what goes on in people heads when they are on a power trip


That would lose PSG way more money than a transfer fee would get them XD

Well, you can definitely bluff that you're going to bench him to pressure him into signing a new contract now (or getting a transfer).


how is this even a good idea. i would just go public and full scorch earth on the club and absolutely no one would take the club's side on that one. it would be way more damaging to the club if they did that and it went public.


You mean threatening to bench him if he won't sign a new contract? It happens all the time.


So Mbappe will just collect his salary for watching the Ligue 1 season from the bench. He will not lose his spot in the national team. Also Real Madrid will just sign him the next season with a signing bonus.
I don't see what PSG is winning here.


They aren't winning anything. They're setting an example for their other stars who might have more to lose. Sure, I don't think anybody as high profile as Mbappe has been benched over contractual disagreements, but lesser players definitely have, and that is exactly what happens: they show up to practice, and don't ever get to play a match. They lose game rhythm and the chance to shine in the public eye. Sometimes they lose their spot in the national team (obviously unlikely for Mbappe). Mostly the salary isn't as absurd as what Mbappe earns nor is the transfer fee. But it's a difference of scale, not something that hasn't been done before.


Plus they can even restrict his access to the training facilities so even bigger dip in form. You can do gym all you want, it is not even close to actual competetion rythm.

He would be voiding one year of his career, still getting a lot of money for sure, but even next year it will take a while for him to recover form. Not sure how strong he is mentally to deal with a potential blank year plus slow start next year. If the first few chances go missing, mentally can also take a strain on a forward.

That also gives leverage to the only club that actually wants him to negotiate what they offer him.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8854 Posts
July 08 2023 14:12 GMT
#2851
de gea leaves man utd. the way the club has treated him this window is nothing but a disgrace
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 08 2023 14:33 GMT
#2852
Now he has pissed off the Club, as well as some players in it as well.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 08 2023 15:04 GMT
#2853
He wants to go Real so bad, but why did he sign this contract 2 years ago, so weird lol.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
July 08 2023 15:40 GMT
#2854
On July 08 2023 23:12 evilfatsh1t wrote:
de gea leaves man utd. the way the club has treated him this window is nothing but a disgrace



More of the team owners Glazers treating him badly.

I hope he can get a testimonial match as his final farewell. Leaving him to hang right at the end is bad.
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9842 Posts
July 08 2023 17:07 GMT
#2855
Its coming home lads!
The UEFA Under 21's European Championship.
RIP Meatloaf <3
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26736 Posts
July 08 2023 18:23 GMT
#2856
On July 09 2023 00:40 LennX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2023 23:12 evilfatsh1t wrote:
de gea leaves man utd. the way the club has treated him this window is nothing but a disgrace



More of the team owners Glazers treating him badly.

I hope he can get a testimonial match as his final farewell. Leaving him to hang right at the end is bad.

Yeah it’s definitely a poor way for a good club servant to leave
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18631 Posts
July 08 2023 18:39 GMT
#2857
On July 09 2023 00:04 Pandemona wrote:
He wants to go Real so bad, but why did he sign this contract 2 years ago, so weird lol.


Didnt he sign it last year?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 08 2023 20:04 GMT
#2858
Wow it was last year? Good lord, why do that if you were always going to Madrid anyway, he had the chance to go before.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14110 Posts
July 08 2023 21:18 GMT
#2859
Money is a hell of a drug.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 08 2023 22:22 GMT
#2860
when did he have the chance? PSG had been very adamant that they would never sell him or let him leave on a free, even from 2 years ago. i do agree that if he wanted to go real, then dont sign the extension and just go, but we'd be in this exact situation anyways.

but who knows maybe he wanted to see what PSG was going to do. maybe he got threatened to sign it, cant put anything past PSG's president.
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