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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28674 Posts
April 20 2023 08:16 GMT
#2141
Dude they've played what, 6 games? And two of them against a city side with a stronger defense than any team they had faced earlier, and they still produced enough chances to score several goals. Might as well say the 4-2 vs Dortmund, which might have secured their Bundesliga title, is because they changed manager.

It isn't Tuchel's team yet. Judge him next season. Tbh I think it's highly plausible they'll both score and concede fewer goals than this season, but saying they lost against city because tuchel neutered their offensive capabilities is just ridiculous.
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-20 10:31:06
April 20 2023 10:30 GMT
#2142
How is it Tuchels fault if their only striker is not on his peek after injury, Mane got bought and has not delivered all season, Gnabry, Sane, Müller not being good enough right now to even score against teams like fcking Hoffenheim?

They scored 4 goals in 6 games: De Ligt, Pavard, Upamecano and one penalty by Kimmich....
This team got build up by other managers, not Tuchel, with no real threat and creativity and without top strikers. Who is top scorer in the Bundesliga right now? And more importantly, where is the best Bayern player in this ranking? Rank 6, Musiala, a young guy that has massive talent but cant carry the rest of the team yet.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18418 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-20 11:20:44
April 20 2023 11:20 GMT
#2143
Did anyone look at the wikipedia link? Bayern is a team full of lethal goal scorers.

You dont always need the one goal scorer to win stuff. You can also just divide the goals between players (like city post-aguero and pre-haaland, arsenal this season, dortmund this season)
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2569 Posts
April 20 2023 12:43 GMT
#2144
Still the team is not working and tbh, was not working way before Tuchel came. Have a look at the numbers this season and then compare it to the last couple of years:

2021/22 Robert Lewandowski 35
2020/21 Robert Lewandowski 41
2019/20 Robert Lewandowski 34
2018/19 Robert Lewandowski 22
2017/18 Robert Lewandowski 29

Have you seen them play in the league? It is still by no means a weak team but they suffer from two major issues:
- Not enough goals, by a margin.
- way to many mistakes and conceding goals because of them, the defence is bad since Alaba left.

One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18418 Posts
April 20 2023 12:53 GMT
#2145
I am sorry but this is getting ridiculous??

THIS SEASON: 78 goals scored
2021/22: 85 goals scored
2020/21: 80 goals scored
2019/20: 81 goals scored
2018/19: 74 goals scored
2017/18: 72 goals scored
2016/17: 71 goals scored
2015/16: 66 goals scored (PEP GUARDIOLA)

https://www.kicker.de/bundesliga/tabelle/2022-23/28
https://www.kicker.de/bundesliga/tabelle/2021-22/28
https://www.kicker.de/bundesliga/tabelle/2020-21/28
https://www.kicker.de/bundesliga/tabelle/2019-20/28
https://www.kicker.de/bundesliga/tabelle/2018-19/28
https://www.kicker.de/bundesliga/tabelle/2017-18/28
https://www.kicker.de/bundesliga/tabelle/2016-17/28
https://www.kicker.de/bundesliga/tabelle/2015-16/28

How is this not enough goals by a margin??? Or a major issue? Goalscorers are not the problem of Bayern. Can you guys check facts before you just repeat what clueless media is telling you?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6934 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-20 13:18:50
April 20 2023 13:17 GMT
#2146
I just love the fact that Bayern is falling apart since throwing out Nagelsmann.
Kahn is on the brink of getting cut, Brazzo is next.
Mane apparently got told he has no future in Munich and should start looking elsewhere

Now if only Dortmund wasn't too stupid to win the league
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28674 Posts
April 20 2023 16:35 GMT
#2147
Bayern scored plenty of goals that season, I posted myself that they are the top tier team with the most goals in Europe this season. I'm just saying it is ridiculous to blame a manager when a team has 30 shots over two games against one of the best teams in Europe but still ends up with 1 goal.

They mostly looked very good against city, just not clinical finishing and a defender who had a couple terrible days at work. Tuchel might deserve some blame for Upamecano playing two full games, but not for the finishing ability of his players.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 20 2023 16:46 GMT
#2148
Cause of course.

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
April 20 2023 19:52 GMT
#2149
On April 20 2023 22:17 Harris1st wrote:
I just love the fact that Bayern is falling apart since throwing out Nagelsmann.
Kahn is on the brink of getting cut, Brazzo is next.
Mane apparently got told he has no future in Munich and should start looking elsewhere

Now if only Dortmund wasn't too stupid to win the league

Bayern fans are very happy if Kahn and Brazzo go right? The fans really dont like how the board has been acting?
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51463 Posts
April 20 2023 22:50 GMT
#2150
we truly are cursed against la liga teams.
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mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4171 Posts
April 20 2023 22:53 GMT
#2151
SEVILLE 3-0 MANCHESTER UNITED | Sevilla destroys United in a magical night

Sevilla sweeps the Sánchez Pizjuan against a disastrous Manchester United. The goals from En-Nesyri (x2) and Badé help Mendilibar's men to return to another semifinal of their tournament. The king of the Europa League is still standing!
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18418 Posts
April 21 2023 05:31 GMT
#2152
Its not really magical if you consider that ManUtd had to field Maguire
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-21 05:33:57
April 21 2023 05:33 GMT
#2153
LOL another clown fiesta show from MU!

DDG so bad. Maguire equally at fault for first goal by asking the ball in such a dangerous position - knowing fully well he's no ball player like Stones.

It's very clear by now why DDG has been dropped from the Spanish squad. Just mystifying how Maguire still gets first choice in England.
gg no re thx
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1103 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-21 07:43:54
April 21 2023 07:43 GMT
#2154
Just mystifying how Maguire still gets first choice in England.

England play a deeper line and are more happy to launch the ball forward. Maguire is very good in this type of defence, as he was at Leicester.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28674 Posts
April 21 2023 10:49 GMT
#2155
On April 21 2023 16:43 MJG wrote:
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Just mystifying how Maguire still gets first choice in England.

England play a deeper line and are more happy to launch the ball forward. Maguire is very good in this type of defence, as he was at Leicester.


Ye if his main tasks are defending crosses and blocking shots he is solid. I've only watched England in championships but there he has mostly looked great.EC 2 years ago I thought he was one of the best defenders in the tournament.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 21 2023 11:31 GMT
#2156
Maguire's weakness is compensated by England's defensive setup. He's shielded by the double pivot of Henderson/Phillips/Rice. Stones does all the real thinking and running. Sometimes, their formation even uses three centre backs. Without Maguire, England could perhaps be more dynamic and offensive.

How about giving Ben White or Tomori a shot?
gg no re thx
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18418 Posts
April 21 2023 12:07 GMT
#2157
Yeah Maguire isnt the worst CB in the world for sure but he is the worst if left alone.
He also always wants to take responsibility even if he is the lesser CB on the field
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2569 Posts
April 21 2023 12:36 GMT
#2158
Watched the recap of the game.... this is just so sad. Was Maguires fault but ultimatively Sevilla was better. Just hope United gets a better defence someday.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8665 Posts
April 21 2023 13:51 GMT
#2159
we have a better defence. they both got injured and we got left with the old shit defence again. and its not just that were defensively worse; we rely on varane and martinez in the build up a lot and lindelof/maguire are objectively worse at build up play too.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 21 2023 14:12 GMT
#2160
Yes, Ten Haag wants more dynamic defenders for his dream setup. Bloopers aside, Maguire even at his peak form just doesn't have the qualities to fit into the mould. Quite unfortunate that both Varane and Martinez were out at the same time.
gg no re thx
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