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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28894 Posts
April 11 2023 17:48 GMT
#2061
On April 12 2023 01:52 Jockmcplop wrote:
Foden was better than Saka, but not anymore imo


Totally reasonable to say Saka has had a better season! Very different from 'is better', though. Note that I'm not arguing that Foden is better, more that they are so close in skill that I think theyre basically on the same tier.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28894 Posts
April 11 2023 18:06 GMT
#2062
Anyway - City vs Bayern tonight. Greatly looking forward to that, has the potential to be a true classic and would've made a most worthy final. They are the two teams with the most goals scored this season (looking at the top 5 leagues), both teams have been a bit inconsistent, however their top level is essentially as good as football gets. Hope they bring it!
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28894 Posts
April 11 2023 19:30 GMT
#2063
Gorgeous goal lol. Thought Bayern was looking a bit better tbh, but games like these are often decided by moments of individual brilliance.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
April 11 2023 19:30 GMT
#2064
On April 12 2023 02:48 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2023 01:52 Jockmcplop wrote:
Foden was better than Saka, but not anymore imo


Totally reasonable to say Saka has had a better season! Very different from 'is better', though. Note that I'm not arguing that Foden is better, more that they are so close in skill that I think theyre basically on the same tier.

In skill, yes.
Saka is much more consistent though. The ability to perform consistently and always have a positive effect on the game is just as important as skill. It seems to me that Foden can go missing in certain types of game, whereas Saka recently always seems to be huge for Arsenal.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2023 19:31 GMT
#2065
On April 12 2023 01:12 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2023 01:03 Pandemona wrote:
On April 12 2023 00:14 sharkie wrote:
Saka has done it for several seasons now...

20/21 5goals 3assists
21/22 11goals 7assists
22/23 12goals 10assists and counting

Foden
20/21 9goals 5assists
21/22 9goals 5assists
22/23 9goals 4assists

But foden plays less, he manages 28 games a season lol. But i mean to the point Saka has not "done it" for several seasons now, he is on 2 in a row at best.


He is a year younger than Foden...
has played more games than foden for club and country
Has better stats than foden, attacking and defensive
plays in a much worse team than foden
Is more of a leader than foden
Is a much nicer bloke than foden

Oh but hes black! Sorry, the most inportant trait in England

Yeah nothing to do with him being black mate lol, he has played better for England than Foden, that is a fact. But Foden plays less and has better stats in some seasons and not that bad in comparisson too, he has more offensive stats in league for playing less again.

But still, i get this is opinion vs opinion debate anyway, you asked a question and i would prefer Foden as i think he has a higher skill ceiling than Saka. Saka would not have become the player he is at Chelsea/Liverpool/City that is a fact though, as he got to play due to Arsenal having "no choice" per se.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-11 19:35:51
April 11 2023 19:32 GMT
#2066
Damn, thats a finish from Rodri!!!

That felt like another 40 pass move from city to generate that cross chance from DeBruyne just, wow.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28894 Posts
April 11 2023 19:56 GMT
#2067
Sommer's leg save on Gundogan's shot is totally bonkers lol
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28894 Posts
April 11 2023 20:11 GMT
#2068
Upmanecano not having a good second half. Real fun game.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
April 11 2023 20:15 GMT
#2069
For my fellow bundesliga followers: will bayern sack tuchel if he loses all three trophies? I could totally see it happening as tuchel will go head to head with bayern bosses if that happens
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2023 20:36 GMT
#2070
Well this escalated quickly lol

Tie over?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2666 Posts
April 11 2023 20:52 GMT
#2071
Tuchel will get all next season. Tbh, Bayern looked like crap often even under Nagelsmann and Tuchel is no magician lol
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
April 11 2023 20:58 GMT
#2072
On April 12 2023 05:52 gTank wrote:
Tuchel will get all next season. Tbh, Bayern looked like crap often even under Nagelsmann and Tuchel is no magician lol


Tuchel will get all next season even if bayern are not #1 for a period of time?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28894 Posts
April 11 2023 21:53 GMT
#2073
On April 12 2023 05:11 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Upmanecano not having a good second half. Real fun game.


Can't understand why he wasn't subbed off. I wrote that after 8 minutes of the second half and he had half a dozen disastrous involvements after, directly causing 2-0 and not doing well on 3-0. Aside from players causing a combined penalty red card in the first half, I can't recall seeing a defender have this negative of an impact on a this high level game.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2110 Posts
April 12 2023 04:35 GMT
#2074
On April 12 2023 06:53 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2023 05:11 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Upmanecano not having a good second half. Real fun game.


Can't understand why he wasn't subbed off. I wrote that after 8 minutes of the second half and he had half a dozen disastrous involvements after, directly causing 2-0 and not doing well on 3-0. Aside from players causing a combined penalty red card in the first half, I can't recall seeing a defender have this negative of an impact on a this high level game.

Maybe this kind of stuff is where having a new coach backfires a bit. You don't necessarily have as good of a grasp on who can bounce back and who should be subbed off. That being said, it doesn't really take a footballing genius to see that Upamecano is struggling there. I guesss the damage is already done when you're 3-0 down vs City though...
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
April 12 2023 05:26 GMT
#2075
Tuchel also refused to play Müller (last 10min are for nothing) - this loss is totally on him and not the players, Nagelsmann 3-5-2 would have resulted in a better game for Bayern
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2666 Posts
April 12 2023 07:39 GMT
#2076
Tbh, Müller is not that good, old, takes up place for new talents.

Tuchel also is also kinda new at this position so I wouldnt blame it on him. It is stupid to fire a coach so short before playing against a top PL team anyway, dunno what the Bayern staff expected? Winning everything instantly?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7406 Posts
April 12 2023 09:14 GMT
#2077
On April 12 2023 05:15 sharkie wrote:
For my fellow bundesliga followers: will bayern sack tuchel if he loses all three trophies? I could totally see it happening as tuchel will go head to head with bayern bosses if that happens


This isn't on Tuchel, this is on Kahn and Brazzo and the other genius Bayern managers...

You just don't sack a manager midseason via BILD Zeitung when you are in all 3 trophy races.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
April 12 2023 09:19 GMT
#2078
On April 12 2023 18:14 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2023 05:15 sharkie wrote:
For my fellow bundesliga followers: will bayern sack tuchel if he loses all three trophies? I could totally see it happening as tuchel will go head to head with bayern bosses if that happens


This isn't on Tuchel, this is on Kahn and Brazzo and the other genius Bayern managers...

You just don't sack a manager midseason via BILD Zeitung when you are in all 3 trophy races.


yes but the bosses wont fire themselves
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 12 2023 16:15 GMT
#2079
Also not that stats win games, but its hella impressive when you leave the Etihad with MORE possession than THAT man city team, like fair play that in itself means you played well. Still, stats don't win you games and 3-0 is pretty much impossible to turn around vs a Haaland man city.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
April 12 2023 16:23 GMT
#2080
Its not impressive if city lets you have possession. It was also not tuchels gameplan to have possession. He said so himself before the match so its not impressive at all
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