EPTIts impressive that the NBA has evolved the game with ballsy rule changes that it can be quite entertaining even when its 2 teams competing for 13th place in the Western Conference.
who is going bald faster. LBJ or Luke Walton?
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
Its impressive that the NBA has evolved the game with ballsy rule changes that it can be quite entertaining even when its 2 teams competing for 13th place in the Western Conference. who is going bald faster. LBJ or Luke Walton? | ||
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redlightdistrict
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Sacramento really has a worse front office than the Knicks. They passed up drafting Kawhi Leanord and Klay Thompson for some nonames, they hired George Karl in order to alienate Demarcus Cousins when he was in his prime then trade cousins for nothing in return, they fire rookie coach Dave Joerger who got them to 9th in their stacked division last year to replace him with Walton, who less than 24 hours after signing with the Kings promptly gets sued for sexual harassment, the hire Shaq to become the partial owner of the kings after he spent his entire career talking about shit the Kings are, and they hired Vlade Divac as an executive after he fled to the Lakers in the twilight of his career. Kings are like the kid in school who keeps giving his bully's lunch money so they wont get beat up. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
This intentional foul shot miss by Fox caught the Minnesota Timberwolves napping. Savvy move by Fox. https://streamable.com/eren3 Minnesota's defense is so bad. What position is KAT playing? I'm telling ya.. if the NBA expanded to 6 players on each side ... KAT would be great for the "Rover" position. LOL Right after the game ended Timberwolves' Andrew Wiggins went straight over to his Toronto native buddy and Kings guard Corey Joseph so they could talk about fun old times. Wiggins was grinning from ear to ear without a care in the world. "Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." , Vince Lombardi. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 28 2020 12:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote: really tall males not only change more during their growth spurt ... their growth spurt is usually longer affording the possibility of over 35 centimeters of growth perhaps all that growing really tall people go through from 14 to 17 cancels out any precise co-ordination and physical athletic instincts they built before puberty. https://www.essentialparent.com/lesson/why-is-my-teenager-so-clumsy-2371/ Also, perhaps soccer players are better equipped to transition to other sports. In Major League Baseball... the first wave of Dominican Republic baseball players in the late 70s and early 80s ... a lot of them were converted soccer players. Those points (growth spurts and soccer cross training) might be partially true, but it can't be even close to 50% of the story. I just think back to my hometown wrestling/football teams. Both sports have pretty good youth programs, and there is some overlap, but not a lot. But then you get to high school, over my 4 years there were like 5 life-long wrestlers that had big growth spurts. They all became maulers for the football team. One was 2x all state (a smaller division, but still impressive) at running back, and the rest were really good O/D linemen. Every year there were plenty of football players on the wrestling team, they universally stunk (aside from those who had also been lifelong wrestlers). Even the super athletic ones just couldn't pick up the actual wrestling skills. Either these big guy sports just have really bad youth systems, so they don't really teach skills of value early (also that may be impossible for some reason or another), or they are deceptively low skill sports at the high end. I think its probably a little of both. Little kid football/basketball games always look ridiculous with the balls being too big, the field too big, the hoops too big, etc. You're more likely to pick up bad habits than good ones. Also, any sport that sets the bar so high for size and athleticism is going to not be as much about smarts and skill. Talent just becomes more and more overwhelming. Edit: I also think this is kinda why the WNBA is going to fail long term. First, I think its dumb to just try to force a sport. They really need to start at the bottom and build up so they can feel out the fans. Maybe there is a WNBA fanbase that would like something, but you need to barnstorm to find out what that fanbase would be. But also, because its such a genetic test sport, you are going to have no real facet where the women's game feels more interesting unless you tailor the rules towards women (and frankly basketball is one of the most anti-woman sports). | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
On January 28 2020 14:54 cLutZ wrote: Every year there were plenty of football players on the wrestling team, they universally stunk (aside from those who had also been lifelong wrestlers). Even the super athletic ones just couldn't pick up the actual wrestling skills. ah, that is interesting. i went to an academically oriented typical Canadian high school where the best athletes avoid tackle football. Wrestling had almost zero popularity. They played everything else except tackle football. The best 2 athletes in my high school seemed to pick up and excel at almost any sport except for tackle football due to size requirements. They were even really good at stuff like snooker and curling. My father was one of 9 kids and my mother was one of 3. I've got over 20 cousins. The best athlete in my family can excel at any sport or any physical activity. I think that is typical. The 1 thing i`ve found that has a chance to stump even the most gifted of athletes is hitting a baseball. It can be the great equalizer. | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
I don't think TNT can afford Larry David or Jerry Seinfeld writing their jokes... so this is what we get. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/9BF7sRP.jpg) Hey TNT, that's some groovy graphics and Brad Stevens is a square | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 29 2020 03:59 JimmyJRaynor wrote: ah, that is interesting. i went to an academically oriented typical Canadian high school where the best athletes avoid tackle football. Wrestling had almost zero popularity. They played everything else except tackle football. The best 2 athletes in my high school seemed to pick up and excel at almost any sport except for tackle football due to size requirements. They were even really good at stuff like snooker and curling. My father was one of 9 kids and my mother was one of 3. I've got over 20 cousins. The best athlete in my family can excel at any sport or any physical activity. I think that is typical. The 1 thing i`ve found that has a chance to stump even the most gifted of athletes is hitting a baseball. It can be the great equalizer. Yea, baseball is a classic stumper for some great athletes. It also depends on the size of your school and what defines "being good". Like some of the football players I considered bad at wrestling could be like 30-10 and win conference at a D-3 (small school), but they still would lose match to me (and I consider myself only pretty good) even with a 30, 40, 50 lb advantage. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/KbFMODY.jpg) here is what i consider a good athlete. Out of the 100 or so guys who graduated from my high school i was somewhere around the 15th best athlete. The best athlete in my school could compete with me in any sort of physical contest with 1/10th or less as much practice. The way I see it the #1 athlete in my high school had an order of magnitude more talent than I did. His favourite sport was soccer. I had zero chance of ever really competing with him in his favourite sport. We had some great tennis matches that were a real blast... but i played tennis way more than he did. Had he bothered to put any time and effort into his tennis game i have no doubt he would've kicked my ass. Now, there could be some guy in my high school who had a horrible diet... was chronically depressed ... and just sat inside all day and all night and just played video games. That unknown guy may have some elite level talent that never got seen. I can't account for that particular case. I can only go by guys who played at least 1 sport and engaged in some forms of physical activity. I can't really judge who was and was not a good athlete at the University I attended because it was very focused on academics and professional development. Most of the students, including me, were only on campus for 4 months at a time. The informally anointed "best basketball player" in my University didn't play for the UNiversity basketball team. LOL.  just my $0.02. | ||
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redlightdistrict
382 Posts
On January 28 2020 14:54 cLutZ wrote: Those points (growth spurts and soccer cross training) might be partially true, but it can't be even close to 50% of the story. I just think back to my hometown wrestling/football teams. Both sports have pretty good youth programs, and there is some overlap, but not a lot. But then you get to high school, over my 4 years there were like 5 life-long wrestlers that had big growth spurts. They all became maulers for the football team. One was 2x all state (a smaller division, but still impressive) at running back, and the rest were really good O/D linemen. Every year there were plenty of football players on the wrestling team, they universally stunk (aside from those who had also been lifelong wrestlers). Even the super athletic ones just couldn't pick up the actual wrestling skills. Either these big guy sports just have really bad youth systems, so they don't really teach skills of value early (also that may be impossible for some reason or another), or they are deceptively low skill sports at the high end. I think its probably a little of both. Little kid football/basketball games always look ridiculous with the balls being too big, the field too big, the hoops too big, etc. You're more likely to pick up bad habits than good ones. Also, any sport that sets the bar so high for size and athleticism is going to not be as much about smarts and skill. Talent just becomes more and more overwhelming. Edit: I also think this is kinda why the WNBA is going to fail long term. First, I think its dumb to just try to force a sport. They really need to start at the bottom and build up so they can feel out the fans. Maybe there is a WNBA fanbase that would like something, but you need to barnstorm to find out what that fanbase would be. But also, because its such a genetic test sport, you are going to have no real facet where the women's game feels more interesting unless you tailor the rules towards women (and frankly basketball is one of the most anti-woman sports). Basketball is the worst sport women can play, anatomically speaking. Women have much wider Pelvis then men, which leads them to being over 20x more likley to get ankle, knees, and hip injuries because their legs have a more interior curviture, forcing the legs to bend at an awkward angle. Basketball courts having little to no give hardwood floors exasperates problem even more so. In Soccer, Tennis, and Volley ball, girls can play on grass, sand, and clay that doesn't completely destroy their ligaments. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
@redlightdistrict While that may be true for most women, the women in the WNBA are going to be on the far end of the spectrum in terms of stuff like hip width. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
more seriously though, Since 1996 NBA teams entered Monday 0-8,378 when trailing by 17 or more in the final three minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime. The TImberwolves lost to the Kings as the Kings mounted an improbable comeback and made it 1-8,378 i think the Bucks should focus on winning a championship and not worry about whether or not they hit 70 wins. they should follow Jordan's advice. https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/bucks-owner-marc-lasry-received-some-sound-advice-michael-jordan How many games will Kyrie need before he can get back to playing? Kyrie stated his grandfather's death in October 2018 impacted his ability to play in the playoffs. I wonder if Kobe's death will also throw off Kyrie for a number of months? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 29 2020 14:43 redlightdistrict wrote: Basketball is the worst sport women can play, anatomically speaking. Women have much wider Pelvis then men, which leads them to being over 20x more likley to get ankle, knees, and hip injuries because their legs have a more interior curviture, forcing the legs to bend at an awkward angle. Basketball courts having little to no give hardwood floors exasperates problem even more so. In Soccer, Tennis, and Volley ball, girls can play on grass, sand, and clay that doesn't completely destroy their ligaments. Plus their shorter ACLs mean its basically an ACL graveyard. 3 of the top 20 seniors in the class of 2020 tore their ACL this year. | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On January 29 2020 15:53 cLutZ wrote: Plus their shorter ACLs mean its basically an ACL graveyard. 3 of the top 20 seniors in the class of 2020 tore their ACL this year. Honest question, lets say you are an average fan of the NBA, what would motivate you to watch WNBA? | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
Could someone explain why? And how you do it? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
Is he playing through an injury? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 29 2020 21:28 Twinkle Toes wrote: Honest question, lets say you are an average fan of the NBA, what would motivate you to watch WNBA? A far different rule set that made its own visually appealing game. Find ways to make height much less influential, experiment with other modifications that would make strength less impactful, etc. | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On January 30 2020 05:49 cLutZ wrote: A far different rule set that made its own visually appealing game. Find ways to make height much less influential, experiment with other modifications that would make strength less impactful, etc. Re: height, is it really difficult to lower women's ring height? I know the logistical implications nationwide, since courts all over the country would have to accommodate the new women's standards. But we are fighting with physics. Women's physio, morphology, etc. are different from men. ReL strength, any ideas? I don;t know how this could be done | ||
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Twinkle Toes
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