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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
February 24 2020 06:30 GMT
#3041
Arsenal are starting to get it together going forward. But my god they still can't defend.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
February 24 2020 06:39 GMT
#3042
On February 24 2020 04:48 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2020 04:29 sharkie wrote:
He was benched because he has been playing every single game since kolasinac got injured and today would have been good day to give him a rest. You sir are once again total clueless.

Btw arsenal are still having a better run in than chelsea since january when I made my post ;p

Arsenal draw specialists are back!!!

Also no he is a left back who is good but is no where near the best left back in the league, that is some red tinted glasses comment if i have ever seen one. This game he came on to today as well he made multiple mistakes giving the ball away and making silly passes across the back. Yes his cross for the gaol was nutty though and he is good but is no where near best left back in the league that is outrageous. Kolsanic also i am sure is favourite for that position for Arteta if he isnt injured.

Robertson Digne Chilwell all good left backs and Robertson by far in a world of his own in that aspect too. Others offer the same offense as Saka and are more settled at it, even though are bit questionable defensively.


Robertson's offense play this season has been very weak which is also mirrored by his stats. Defensively obviously there is no better full back atm.
Chilwell, Digne better than Saka? My god, have you even seen Saka play? Hes been a game changer for the last 6-8 games for Arsenal.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
February 24 2020 07:55 GMT
#3043
Did you guys talk about the Burnley goal against Bournemouth (I couldn't find any mention of it) I've only just seen it now. There was a question raised about a possible defensive handball in the area from a Bournemouth player. But none of the officials showed any interest in it. Then Bournemouth played on went up the other end and scored. So the handball is now considered part of the build up to the Bournemouth goal. VAR has a real look at it runs the slow motion over and over decide actually it is handball so they disallow the Bournemouth goal and give Burnley a penalty which is scored.

I guess by the letter of the law that's the correct thing to do. But it's such a crazy swing around. I guess we will see more and more of that.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7429 Posts
February 24 2020 09:50 GMT
#3044
Question:

Is this goal 2:1 Marquinhos (45.) in the game PSG - Bordeaux 4:3 not considered offside anymore?
I mean clearly #4 is offside in the moment of the kick, the proceeds to run towards the ball and irritating the GK?




min 2:14
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
February 24 2020 12:49 GMT
#3045
I think it should be, but since he is directly behind the player that actually scores maybe he doesn't get close enough?
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4201 Posts
February 24 2020 13:07 GMT
#3046
On February 24 2020 02:03 sharkie wrote:
Saka from Arsenal must be the current best left back in the premier league


Lmao that’s almost as bad as Pande saying Sterling should be in contention for the Balon D’or a few months ago :D
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
February 24 2020 13:09 GMT
#3047
Was weird playing Pro Evolution Soccer 4 the other day with the kiddo and realising that they were using the old offside rule, any attacker in an offside position = it’s offside.

I don’t really like that either as you could have a player who had nothing to do with a move having a goal chalked off.

On the other hand I don’t like how they are applying ‘interfering with play’ at all either. A goalkeeper has to position himself for likely angles of a shot regardless of the player, they don’t have time to correct for ‘well he’s offside I can ignore him’.

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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2117 Posts
February 24 2020 14:15 GMT
#3048
On freekicks like that, would it be totally outrageous to rule that everyone is actively participating and call any offside you see? There's always going to be so much blocking and wrestling in the goal area that it gets very tricky to tell who is partipating without a thorough VAR breakdown or something similar. Ruling everyone a partipant would make it a much more straightforward call at the very least.

It might take some edge away from free kicks, but maybe it's an acceptable tradeoff here.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
February 24 2020 21:47 GMT
#3049
I just checked: can Klopp please get some huge props for making liverpool the "fairest" team (fair play table) in the premier league? He did the same with Dortmund when they beat Bayern two seasons in a row. Always the fairest team in the Bundesliga. Klopp unlike all other "great" managers can win without fouling
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
February 24 2020 21:58 GMT
#3050
That was a pretty decent game. It looked like Liverpool might lose a Premier League game for a sec there.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7429 Posts
February 25 2020 07:53 GMT
#3051
On February 24 2020 23:15 Bacillus wrote:
On freekicks like that, would it be totally outrageous to rule that everyone is actively participating and call any offside you see? There's always going to be so much blocking and wrestling in the goal area that it gets very tricky to tell who is partipating without a thorough VAR breakdown or something similar. Ruling everyone a partipant would make it a much more straightforward call at the very least.

It might take some edge away from free kicks, but maybe it's an acceptable tradeoff here.


There are always one or two attackers just irritating the defenders "hold this line" kinda system, but usually they don't actively go to the ball and just wait for rebounds and the "new situation"

In the case of PSG, this should have been an easy offside. Guess French Refs have watched to much Premier League VAR/ Refs :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-25 18:24:55
February 25 2020 18:16 GMT
#3052
On February 25 2020 06:47 sharkie wrote:
I just checked: can Klopp please get some huge props for making liverpool the "fairest" team (fair play table) in the premier league? He did the same with Dortmund when they beat Bayern two seasons in a row. Always the fairest team in the Bundesliga. Klopp unlike all other "great" managers can win without fouling


What other great manager needed to win by fouling? Cant think of many.

Also Saka is ok at best. Being a decent performer in an under performing Arsenal team doesnt make you the current best at anything.

I get that you have a hard on for your own opinions but if all youve got is, "look stats" and "played the last 6-8 games" in a semi decent Arsenal run (again relatively speaking, they are still in 9th place, not being in relegation is not an achievement).

Wouldnt even put him top 5. Potential ? Sure. He looks good but again, doesnt take much to look good on that Arsenal team. \

On February 25 2020 06:58 Greg_J wrote:
That was a pretty decent game. It looked like Liverpool might lose a Premier League game for a sec there.


It maybe "looked" like this earlier in the season in games like this. Now its pretty much agiven that they will come back. Its happened like so many times where they have pulled out wins, its the whole written in the stars deal. United used to have the same thing. Teams bending over just under pressure and the will of the great team,

The narrative is nerveless for them now The belief that you will win no matter what is currently what anyone associated in any capactiy with Liverpool has now, its pretty much affirmed at this point. Literally none of them ever get nervous or worried when I am watchig games with them.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
February 25 2020 19:59 GMT
#3053
Also I'm pretty sure Pep's Barça topped the fairplay rankings every year. Given the possession they had it shouldn't even be a surprise.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
February 25 2020 20:05 GMT
#3054
On February 26 2020 04:59 WillyWanker wrote:
Also I'm pretty sure Pep's Barça topped the fairplay rankings every year. Given the possession they had it shouldn't even be a surprise.

As meaningless tables go the fair play one is close to useless. Play-acting to get opponents booked, crowding of referees and all sorts of unsporting conduct isn’t really covered, plus as you say it’s quite hard to foul people if you have the ball all the time.

That said I do think Liverpool play pretty fairly all things considered.
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-25 20:36:09
February 25 2020 20:23 GMT
#3055
Man Napoli is so disappointing. 10 behind the ball, counter with 2 players, 4 minimum on Messi. I get that a bus can get you a lucky win but it makes for such a boring game. Especially when their players have the technical skills to do other things.

Edit: One slip one lucky break and goal. I guess it's going to be one of those games...
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
February 25 2020 20:36 GMT
#3056
It's Gattuso, what could you have possibly expected.
Also it is working and it was always going to against this Barca team
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
February 25 2020 20:43 GMT
#3057
High presses have worked against Barça too. They were playing for the lucky 1-0 on a counter, they got it, but it could easily finish 0-0 and good luck with that result at the Camp Nou.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-25 21:13:18
February 25 2020 21:12 GMT
#3058
Well pande certainly picked an excelent Chelsea performance to attend =)
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2669 Posts
February 25 2020 21:17 GMT
#3059
On February 26 2020 06:12 sneirac wrote:
Well pande certainly picked an excelent Chelsea performance to attend =)


Haha :D but it was to be expected.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
February 25 2020 21:18 GMT
#3060
There you go, 1-1 undeserved but I just can't bear the bus.
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