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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18764 Posts
January 27 2020 09:21 GMT
#2661
I really like it that Klopp is going to send his players on the planned winter break and "foregoes" the FA cup. And before anyone says hes only doing it for the title. Klopp has been criticising the stupid schedules of English clubs since the very first season he has been in England.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
January 27 2020 09:49 GMT
#2662
On January 27 2020 18:21 sharkie wrote:
I really like it that Klopp is going to send his players on the planned winter break and "foregoes" the FA cup. And before anyone says hes only doing it for the title. Klopp has been criticising the stupid schedules of English clubs since the very first season he has been in England.

I agree, however it will be interesting what the FA actually does about this, because he doesn't really have an excuse this time like he had during the carabao cup in December.
The winter break is only an EPL, not FA, initiative after all.

Then again I'm not sure Liverpool cares if they get fined/banned from FA competitions. So win win?
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7435 Posts
January 27 2020 10:04 GMT
#2663
On January 27 2020 18:21 sharkie wrote:
I really like it that Klopp is going to send his players on the planned winter break and "foregoes" the FA cup. And before anyone says hes only doing it for the title. Klopp has been criticising the stupid schedules of English clubs since the very first season he has been in England.


Premier league/ CL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FA cup

I guess he has the ambition now to go for every PL record possible
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4572 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-27 10:36:38
January 27 2020 10:35 GMT
#2664
Blame the English FA for setting a precedent by forcing Manchester United to skip the FA Cup for the World Club Cup eons ago. I'm sure the bigger clubs wont mind if they do get banned from the cup or a tiny fine from the FA
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2121 Posts
January 27 2020 15:26 GMT
#2665
If they start slapping punishments for not fielding a strong starting 11, you're going to see more teams bringing the top roster with minimal intensity. I'd much rather watch the youth teams play with full intensity than make the participation even more artificial by forcing some kind of commitment.

Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 27 2020 18:39 GMT
#2666
On January 27 2020 19:04 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2020 18:21 sharkie wrote:
I really like it that Klopp is going to send his players on the planned winter break and "foregoes" the FA cup. And before anyone says hes only doing it for the title. Klopp has been criticising the stupid schedules of English clubs since the very first season he has been in England.


Premier league/ CL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FA cup

I guess he has the ambition now to go for every PL record possible

He already lost the Chelsea record so he can't get them all :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
whistleboss
Profile Joined March 2019
151 Posts
January 27 2020 18:45 GMT
#2667
On January 28 2020 03:39 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2020 19:04 Harris1st wrote:
On January 27 2020 18:21 sharkie wrote:
I really like it that Klopp is going to send his players on the planned winter break and "foregoes" the FA cup. And before anyone says hes only doing it for the title. Klopp has been criticising the stupid schedules of English clubs since the very first season he has been in England.


Premier league/ CL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FA cup

I guess he has the ambition now to go for every PL record possible

He already lost the Chelsea record so he can't get them all :D

and which's that?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 27 2020 19:45 GMT
#2668
Fewest goals conceded in a season
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
January 28 2020 01:12 GMT
#2669
On January 28 2020 03:39 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2020 19:04 Harris1st wrote:
On January 27 2020 18:21 sharkie wrote:
I really like it that Klopp is going to send his players on the planned winter break and "foregoes" the FA cup. And before anyone says hes only doing it for the title. Klopp has been criticising the stupid schedules of English clubs since the very first season he has been in England.


Premier league/ CL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FA cup

I guess he has the ambition now to go for every PL record possible

He already lost the Chelsea record so he can't get them all :D

It is a rather impressive record that one, bit bonkers that even this Liverpool side are already out of the running this early in the season.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7435 Posts
January 28 2020 13:33 GMT
#2670
On January 28 2020 04:45 Pandemona wrote:
Fewest goals conceded in a season


They can still tie that

And they need way more goals scored, cause MCity was bonkers

Most PL goals scored in a season 106 - Manchester City (2017/18)
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
January 28 2020 14:44 GMT
#2671
Top priority for Klopp is the Premier League (which is largely in the bag. The only way they could fuck it up is if they have a huge load of injuries and just burn out from too many games) and having a good crack at the Champions League again. Having too many games is just becoming a victim of their own success. Not prioritizing the cups makes sense in a world where you are competitive in the Champions League (English clubs don't normally have a realistic chance of winning it). The FA and League cups are significant and fans value winning them. But they've been relegated to this less important than League and Europe position which wasn't true historically. The domestic cups aren't taken seriously until the later stages when the managers think "Oh there's a chance of a trophy here". That is a little sad but it's the reality of the modern game. Attendances are down across all the Premier League teams when they play in the cups which shows the fans feel the same way. Anyway I think most people here knew everything I just said. But Klopp is doing the right thing. The only criticism you can throw at him is why does he need rest and why isn't he going to be there with the youth team. I'm guessing he;s got a nice holiday booked and personally feel he's earned it.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2121 Posts
January 28 2020 15:06 GMT
#2672
Eriksen to Inter for about 17 million pounds. It's more than I expected at the start of the window, but still way worse than they could've had in the summer.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7435 Posts
January 28 2020 15:12 GMT
#2673
On January 28 2020 23:44 Greg_J wrote:
Top priority for Klopp is the Premier League (which is largely in the bag. The only way they could fuck it up is if they have a huge load of injuries and just burn out from too many games) and having a good crack at the Champions League again. Having too many games is just becoming a victim of their own success. Not prioritizing the cups makes sense in a world where you are competitive in the Champions League (English clubs don't normally have a realistic chance of winning it). The FA and League cups are significant and fans value winning them. But they've been relegated to this less important than League and Europe position which wasn't true historically. The domestic cups aren't taken seriously until the later stages when the managers think "Oh there's a chance of a trophy here". That is a little sad but it's the reality of the modern game. Attendances are down across all the Premier League teams when they play in the cups which shows the fans feel the same way. Anyway I think most people here knew everything I just said. But Klopp is doing the right thing. The only criticism you can throw at him is why does he need rest and why isn't he going to be there with the youth team. I'm guessing he;s got a nice holiday booked and personally feel he's earned it.


Agree with everything. Me personally, I feel his holiday his well deserved as well ^^
And I mean he is not boycotting in the sense. There will be a Liverpool team at the cup. Is just not his first or second 11, it's the youth team, with the youth manager (I think?)
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
January 28 2020 17:44 GMT
#2674
On January 29 2020 00:06 Bacillus wrote:
Eriksen to Inter for about 17 million pounds. It's more than I expected at the start of the window, but still way worse than they could've had in the summer.

As a (somewhat lapsed) Inter fan as well as a big fan of Eriksen as a player I’m pretty excited on both counts. I think the guy needed a new challenge and Inter could do with that little extra bit of guile.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 28 2020 18:33 GMT
#2675
On January 28 2020 22:33 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2020 04:45 Pandemona wrote:
Fewest goals conceded in a season


They can still tie that

And they need way more goals scored, cause MCity was bonkers

Show nested quote +
Most PL goals scored in a season 106 - Manchester City (2017/18)

Well if they tie that jesus with this many games to go and how they have looked a bit worse for wear the last few games, but still i guess their is a tiny chance XD
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Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
January 29 2020 07:51 GMT
#2676
On January 29 2020 00:12 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2020 23:44 Greg_J wrote:
Top priority for Klopp is the Premier League (which is largely in the bag. The only way they could fuck it up is if they have a huge load of injuries and just burn out from too many games) and having a good crack at the Champions League again. Having too many games is just becoming a victim of their own success. Not prioritizing the cups makes sense in a world where you are competitive in the Champions League (English clubs don't normally have a realistic chance of winning it). The FA and League cups are significant and fans value winning them. But they've been relegated to this less important than League and Europe position which wasn't true historically. The domestic cups aren't taken seriously until the later stages when the managers think "Oh there's a chance of a trophy here". That is a little sad but it's the reality of the modern game. Attendances are down across all the Premier League teams when they play in the cups which shows the fans feel the same way. Anyway I think most people here knew everything I just said. But Klopp is doing the right thing. The only criticism you can throw at him is why does he need rest and why isn't he going to be there with the youth team. I'm guessing he;s got a nice holiday booked and personally feel he's earned it.


Agree with everything. Me personally, I feel his holiday his well deserved as well ^^
And I mean he is not boycotting in the sense. There will be a Liverpool team at the cup. Is just not his first or second 11, it's the youth team, with the youth manager (I think?)

I would have more sympathy for Liverpool's fixture pile-up if they had not played 7 preseason games in 3 weeks (including 3 games in the US and one in Switzerland).

It is not only Liverpool. The big teams schedule these preseason games in the US or Asia to make money and the managers are normally very quiet about the extra travelling and matches then, but when there are cup matches to play the managers are very concerned that their big name players have not had a proper holiday.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2121 Posts
January 29 2020 11:04 GMT
#2677
I think the preseason friendlies are hardly comparable here. Your international team players are often joining in later, you're playing half intensity games with light preparation while rotating the whole roster with unlimited subs and so on. Surely there's some unnecessary travel and PR aspects to it nowadays, but for the most of it, it's still designed to get the match fitness up. It's a completely different thing to play multiple competitive matches each week for extended periods of time.

{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2020 16:42 GMT
#2678
Heck of a signing...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
January 29 2020 17:03 GMT
#2679
about fking time
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2020 17:10 GMT
#2680
Meanwhile... lol

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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