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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 18 2019 01:42 GMT
#321
Chinese Communist Party attempts to fire a General Manager of an American NBA team
© Current year.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 18 2019 02:09 GMT
#322
I'm confused about what Lebron even meant. Has he tried to clarify what he meant? It kind of looks like he spoke nonsense.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 02:17:01
October 18 2019 02:16 GMT
#323
On October 18 2019 11:09 IgnE wrote:
I'm confused about what Lebron even meant. Has he tried to clarify what he meant? It kind of looks like he spoke nonsense.

said this about Morey's tweet for HK
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 18 2019 02:30 GMT
#324
On October 18 2019 11:09 IgnE wrote:
I'm confused about what Lebron even meant. Has he tried to clarify what he meant? It kind of looks like he spoke nonsense.

You know the dumb kid in your 6th grade class? You know how he had a slightly less dumb friend that would write things that are wrong, but like he kinda close to a real book report for him to read during group projects, but he couldn't memorize so you get a really weird version of a dumb take? That's LeBron.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 02:41:49
October 18 2019 02:40 GMT
#325
On October 18 2019 10:42 CorsairHero wrote:
Chinese Communist Party attempts to fire a General Manager of an American NBA team

That is hearsay from Adam Silver. Who knows if this is true or not. With his narrative Silver can make it appear he stood up to Big Bad China. However, I have not heard a word of support for Hong Kong's independence since Morey's quickly deleted tweet.

The NBA rolled into China in 1990 months after tiananmen square. Every city that has an NBA team lives under a constant threat of the team leaving. Dolan gets $40 million a year in tax breaks from New York.

Don't believe anything these guys say... especially regarding China. the NBA PR machine is working triple Overtime to try and spin this disaster any way possible.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 18 2019 02:48 GMT
#326
On October 18 2019 11:09 IgnE wrote:
I'm confused about what Lebron even meant. Has he tried to clarify what he meant? It kind of looks like he spoke nonsense.


Just verbal diarrhea. He even said Morey could've waited a week to tweet, basically after the Lakers come back from China.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14898 Posts
October 18 2019 03:23 GMT
#327
Rofl you really think silver is gonna make up that some government official tried to pressure the NBA to fire Morey if it’s false that’s way more likely to cause China to boot the NBA
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 03:30:05
October 18 2019 03:26 GMT
#328
On October 18 2019 12:23 KOFgokuon wrote:
Rofl you really think silver is gonna make up that some government official tried to pressure the NBA to fire Morey if it’s false that’s way more likely to cause China to boot the NBA

Who knows what angle Silver is playing. You're assuming you know China's current position. You don't know what China is up to. Any how, a few lies from Silver now could be used for some other set up move later.

I don't trust any word that comes out of his mouth regarding China.

We only see the very surface level of the jockeying back and forth between several mammoth stake holders.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 04:49:28
October 18 2019 04:45 GMT
#329
On October 18 2019 12:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2019 12:23 KOFgokuon wrote:
Rofl you really think silver is gonna make up that some government official tried to pressure the NBA to fire Morey if it’s false that’s way more likely to cause China to boot the NBA

Who knows what angle Silver is playing. You're assuming you know China's current position. You don't know what China is up to. Any how, a few lies from Silver now could be used for some other set up move later.

I don't trust any word that comes out of his mouth regarding China.

We only see the very surface level of the jockeying back and forth between several mammoth stake holders.

Silver opened the floor. James raised his hand.

His question was related to Morey -- and the commissioner's handling of the Rockets' GM. James, to paraphrase, told Silver that he knew that if a player caused the same type of uproar with something he said or tweeted, the player wouldn't be able to skate on it. There would be some type of repercussion. So, James wanted to know, what was Silver going to do about it in Morey's case?

Silver pushed back, reminding the players that the league never doled out discipline when they publicly criticized President Donald Trump. Morey was exercising the same liberty when he challenged China. Regardless of the financial fallout of one versus the other, that's not what should matter. Silver might have disliked the ramifications of Morey's tweet, but he would defend the right to say it.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27852687/inside-lebron-james-adam-silver-make-break-moments-china
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 05:14:12
October 18 2019 05:11 GMT
#330
I think ball movement and offensive cohesion is going to be an issue for the Clippers early in the year.

The Clippers lost 2 important and frequent ball distributors. They replaced them with a guy who had 2 shoulder operations and won't play for a while and another guy who got zero reps in the summer and played 33 minutes in the pre-season.

The Clippers better hope Beverley stays healthy early in the year.

The other Western Conference powerhouses look like they're already out for blood, meanwhile, the Clippers look like they are shuffling around in quicksand.
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5596 Posts
October 18 2019 08:26 GMT
#331
On October 18 2019 11:40 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2019 10:42 CorsairHero wrote:
Chinese Communist Party attempts to fire a General Manager of an American NBA team

That is hearsay from Adam Silver. Who knows if this is true or not. With his narrative Silver can make it appear he stood up to Big Bad China. However, I have not heard a word of support for Hong Kong's independence since Morey's quickly deleted tweet.

The NBA rolled into China in 1990 months after tiananmen square. Every city that has an NBA team lives under a constant threat of the team leaving. Dolan gets $40 million a year in tax breaks from New York.

Don't believe anything these guys say... especially regarding China. the NBA PR machine is working triple Overtime to try and spin this disaster any way possible.

Well its not hearsay that CCP went batshit insane over Morey's tweet and wanted severe repercussions - so why would they not want him fired?
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
October 18 2019 11:57 GMT
#332
On October 18 2019 17:26 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2019 11:40 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On October 18 2019 10:42 CorsairHero wrote:
Chinese Communist Party attempts to fire a General Manager of an American NBA team

That is hearsay from Adam Silver. Who knows if this is true or not. With his narrative Silver can make it appear he stood up to Big Bad China. However, I have not heard a word of support for Hong Kong's independence since Morey's quickly deleted tweet.

The NBA rolled into China in 1990 months after tiananmen square. Every city that has an NBA team lives under a constant threat of the team leaving. Dolan gets $40 million a year in tax breaks from New York.

Don't believe anything these guys say... especially regarding China. the NBA PR machine is working triple Overtime to try and spin this disaster any way possible.

Well its not hearsay that CCP went batshit insane over Morey's tweet and wanted severe repercussions - so why would they not want him fired?

That is a good point. It is possible what Silver said it true. It is also possible Silver is framing the communications in a confidential meeting with various unknown and unnamed Chinese government officials so that he can make it look like he "stood up to China". Silver claiming he "stood up to China" doesn't match with the rest of the NBA's behaviour since 2 minutes after Morey made the "Free Hong Kong" tweet. Since then the NBA has been in back pedal mode while delivering all manner of self contradictory PR spin to non-China media ... a lot of whom pay the NBA rights fees.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14898 Posts
October 18 2019 12:37 GMT
#333
Please take your /r/conspiracy theories somewhere else
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 13:08:25
October 18 2019 13:01 GMT
#334
On October 18 2019 21:37 KOFgokuon wrote:
Please take your /r/conspiracy theories somewhere else

Skepticism is not a conspiracy theory. The phrase "conspiracy theory" is often used to obfuscate authentic discussion.

my perspective on this debacle is pretty close to how Lowe and Woj express things during this podcast.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 18 2019 16:42 GMT
#335
maybe Lebron was just concerned about what might happen to him and his teammates/staff in china

idk why people care what lebron says about most things though
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 21:09:36
October 18 2019 20:52 GMT
#336
Leonard implies that he'll play a lot more than last year. I wonder if they'll try to play him more minutes per game. Last year Kawhi played a career high 34 minutes per game. For all the talk of "load management" Kawhi Leonard's total minutes played in the regular season last year was the 3rd highest of his career.

Once you factor in the playoffs Leonard played more minutes last year than any other year of his career. He played a total of 2,980 minutes last year.

https://streamable.com/05fu4

Leonard said he was injured going into 2018-2019. hmmmm.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 19 2019 21:55 GMT
#337
On October 19 2019 01:42 IgnE wrote:
maybe Lebron was just concerned about what might happen to him and his teammates/staff in china

idk why people care what lebron says about most things though


Doesn't fit the timeline. Lots of the NBA's most vocal people punted on the China issue. Chairman James could've done the same. Instead, he issued an unprompted very pro-CCP message after he was already back in Los Angeles.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
October 19 2019 22:54 GMT
#338
Pascal Siakam signed to a 4 year $130 million extension.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/report-raptors-sign-pascal-siakam-four-year-max-extension/
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-19 23:48:10
October 19 2019 23:47 GMT
#339
On October 20 2019 06:55 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 01:42 IgnE wrote:
maybe Lebron was just concerned about what might happen to him and his teammates/staff in china

idk why people care what lebron says about most things though


Doesn't fit the timeline. Lots of the NBA's most vocal people punted on the China issue. Chairman James could've done the same. Instead, he issued an unprompted very pro-CCP message after he was already back in Los Angeles.


chinese assassins are everywhere

On October 20 2019 07:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Pascal Siakam signed to a 4 year $130 million extension.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/report-raptors-sign-pascal-siakam-four-year-max-extension/


im on the side that they shouldve waited
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 20 2019 01:30 GMT
#340
Moreys tweet lowers Chinas investment in the league and hurt the league (and all the players in it) financially.
LeBron was upset about that, and said so in that interview
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