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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
November 29 2019 03:46 GMT
#1841
Dak;s averaging more than 300 yds a game while throwing at 67%, he is 100% getting paid. I would really be surprised if the Cowboys don't since coaching aside that should be a playoff team right now... they are top 10 on both sides of the ball. Chances of a rookie coming in and playing great asap are slim. Your best case for cheap UFA/trade for a shortterm solution is probably Andy Dalton which is pretty uninspiring.

Zeke is 24 and the D is fairly young too now so they skip on Dak their window is the next 3-4 years while those guys are all at their peak. Unless there was someone else who was definitely available and represented a definite upgrade it makes no sense to not resign him and roll the dice on the unknown.
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UsedEgg3
Profile Joined May 2019
126 Posts
November 29 2019 10:38 GMT
#1842
He definitely should get paid, and in most organizations I'd say he would get paid, but I have no idea what Jerry will do.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
November 29 2019 15:25 GMT
#1843
Dak isn't getting paid.
redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
November 29 2019 15:42 GMT
#1844
On November 29 2019 19:38 UsedEgg3 wrote:
He definitely should get paid, and in most organizations I'd say he would get paid, but I have no idea what Jerry will do.

If Dak gets paid, he will go full Matt Stafford, putting up numbers but the team wont win anything.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 29 2019 15:46 GMT
#1845
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
November 29 2019 16:43 GMT
#1846
I could see a franchise/transition tag on Dak for a year to test it out under a new coach, but even with the numbers, I don't yet believe Dak is the guy for them. Dak's numbers seem inflated for the amount of production/points they actually achieve on offense, and if they cannot beat the Bills in a "must win" game, it isnt a good sign.

On the opposite note, G fucking G Bills, so happy for them!
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redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
November 29 2019 18:10 GMT
#1847
On November 30 2019 00:46 JimmiC wrote:
That is true of every team that over pays there not top 5 QB but for some reason every franchise does it.

It depends on if the QB is the right fit for the team. Russel Wilson set the market last year and is having a MVP season. Jimmy G set the market years ago and has a 18-3 record. Jacoby Brissett is a better fit for the Cowboys, Dak' is a better fit on the Colts and Brissett would eliminate the Cowboys salary cap issues.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 29 2019 18:57 GMT
#1848
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
November 29 2019 19:46 GMT
#1849
Everybody better be rooting for Nebraska.
redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 21:38:38
November 29 2019 21:20 GMT
#1850
On November 30 2019 03:57 JimmiC wrote:
GRappalo is clearly over payed and the D is winning them the games. Wilson is clearly a top 5 QB.

overpayed in relation to who? Jimmy Makes 27.5 a year. Stafford makes 27, Cousins makes 28, Wentz makes 32, Dak will make 30-32, and Goff makes 33.5 Jimmy G is above average qb,but not wlite. Still, hes doing better than the other qb's in his price range. If anything, you are making the argument that Jimmy G is clearly underpaid at 67.0% of passes completed 5,699, total yards 37 td 18ints and a 98.9 QB rating which is better than all other QB's on that list.

Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 29 2019 21:44 GMT
#1851
UVA beats VT for the first time in 16 years

The ACC coastal completes a perfect cycle with all 7 teams winning the division in the last 7 years. PERFECT PARITY

2019 UVA
2018 Pitt
2017 Miami
2016 VT
2015 UNC
2014 GT
2013 Duke
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 29 2019 22:10 GMT
#1852
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 29 2019 22:10 GMT
#1853
On November 29 2019 19:38 UsedEgg3 wrote:
He definitely should get paid, and in most organizations I'd say he would get paid, but I have no idea what Jerry will do.

He definitely should not get paid, but Jerry is almost certainly going to pay him
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
November 29 2019 22:55 GMT
#1854
FUCK IOWA!
redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-29 23:34:58
November 29 2019 23:32 GMT
#1855
On November 30 2019 07:10 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2019 06:20 redlightdistrict wrote:
On November 30 2019 03:57 JimmiC wrote:
GRappalo is clearly over payed and the D is winning them the games. Wilson is clearly a top 5 QB.

overpayed in relation to who? Jimmy Makes 27.5 a year. Stafford makes 27, Cousins makes 28, Wentz makes 32, Dak will make 30-32, and Goff makes 33.5 Jimmy G is above average qb,but not wlite. Still, hes doing better than the other qb's in his price range. If anything, you are making the argument that Jimmy G is clearly underpaid at 67.0% of passes completed 5,699, total yards 37 td 18ints and a 98.9 QB rating which is better than all other QB's on that list.


Compared to his value on his team, much like all the others. It was original point that everyone but the top 5 QB's are not worth the money they are making. Better to have a slightly worse QB at 1/3 the money and a better roster around them.

Which leads me back to my original point that Jacoby Brissett is a better fit for the Cowboys than Dak, thus Dak will not set the market, at least for another year...or if another team signs him. Or mabye Dak will go full Tom Brady and ask for 18 mil becuase he is around Brissett tier lvl QB. We have come full circle
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 29 2019 23:55 GMT
#1856
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 30 2019 01:04 GMT
#1857
On November 30 2019 07:55 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
FUCK IOWA!

Their corn is Inferior
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-30 11:19:53
November 30 2019 11:18 GMT
#1858
On November 30 2019 07:10 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2019 06:20 redlightdistrict wrote:
On November 30 2019 03:57 JimmiC wrote:
GRappalo is clearly over payed and the D is winning them the games. Wilson is clearly a top 5 QB.

overpayed in relation to who? Jimmy Makes 27.5 a year. Stafford makes 27, Cousins makes 28, Wentz makes 32, Dak will make 30-32, and Goff makes 33.5 Jimmy G is above average qb,but not wlite. Still, hes doing better than the other qb's in his price range. If anything, you are making the argument that Jimmy G is clearly underpaid at 67.0% of passes completed 5,699, total yards 37 td 18ints and a 98.9 QB rating which is better than all other QB's on that list.


Compared to his value on his team, much like all the others. It was original point that everyone but the top 5 QB's are not worth the money they are making. Better to have a slightly worse QB at 1/3 the money and a better roster around them.


In theory I agree, but the only cheap QB1s on teams with good records tend to be on their rookie contracts.

It takes a lot of courage to trust a journeyman to be QB1 if you have super bowl ambitions. There are plenty of good rosters who are held back by their QB1.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 30 2019 13:59 GMT
#1859
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
November 30 2019 15:20 GMT
#1860
On November 30 2019 22:59 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2019 20:18 Slydie wrote:
On November 30 2019 07:10 JimmiC wrote:
On November 30 2019 06:20 redlightdistrict wrote:
On November 30 2019 03:57 JimmiC wrote:
GRappalo is clearly over payed and the D is winning them the games. Wilson is clearly a top 5 QB.

overpayed in relation to who? Jimmy Makes 27.5 a year. Stafford makes 27, Cousins makes 28, Wentz makes 32, Dak will make 30-32, and Goff makes 33.5 Jimmy G is above average qb,but not wlite. Still, hes doing better than the other qb's in his price range. If anything, you are making the argument that Jimmy G is clearly underpaid at 67.0% of passes completed 5,699, total yards 37 td 18ints and a 98.9 QB rating which is better than all other QB's on that list.


Compared to his value on his team, much like all the others. It was original point that everyone but the top 5 QB's are not worth the money they are making. Better to have a slightly worse QB at 1/3 the money and a better roster around them.


In theory I agree, but the only cheap QB1s on teams with good records tend to be on their rookie contracts.

It takes a lot of courage to trust a journeyman to be QB1 if you have super bowl ambitions. There are plenty of good rosters who are held back by their QB1.

Its true, I just think at this point if your guy is not top 5 your better off trading him getting value, making your roster great with the extra picks and looking in the draft for that guy who is findable out of the top 10 picks.


QB seems to be different than other positions in that regard. I can think of the Josh Rosen, Alex Smith and Garoppolo trades, but their previous teams did not land that much value for them and they were traded because there were other QB1s on the roster already.

When was the last time a QB was traded for multiple high picks, including a 1st?

I guess picking a QB almost every year hoping to always have a starter on their rookie contract is an option, but you can't really build your team round your QB that way.
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