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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 08 2018 10:53 GMT
#1041
On October 08 2018 01:26 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2018 01:01 Pandemona wrote:
On October 08 2018 00:22 DucK- wrote:
Wow that Ramsey goal. Still prefer hazard's against Liverpool because this goal felt fluke-ish, in that arsenal didn't have control of the ball during the sequence of passes.

Morata scored! Funny how Chelsea Twitter totally ignored his miss XD

I felt Barkley's goal and assist masked an otherwise average performance. I have again the same issues with him. He doesn't bring the ball forward enough, always looking to release the ball. One particular moment near the 48th minute when he receives a ball from luiz and immediately passed sideways to jorginho despite having loads of space behind him. Luiz was visible frustrated...

I was more impressed by kovacic few minutes. So comfortable and confident with the ball. We really need our centre mids to link with our strikers if we want to proceed forward.

You hate my boy Barkley

I am well and truly biast in favor of Barkley because of potential and him being English, but still his stats today was the best passing accuracy of everyone at 94%. Gave a goal and assist. He played just like Kovacic with his pressing and passing and off the ball runs. Was his best game for us and still not even at his best, believe in him :D


I will not be impressed with him until he starts to make those runs. We already have a passer in jorginho whose role is to play simple passes to our attackers in space to attack. We don't need another of such passer in the field. Funny thing is that he likes to pass back to jorgunho lol.


Are you aware of what the manager's instructions to Barkley might be?

Perhaps it is to ensure possession and maintain position, playing high % passes. Rather than making lots of forward runs with the ball. He definitely has the potential to drive at defenders and make things happen but I imagine he has been told to balance his game and play in a certain way.
Zerg for Life
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-08 16:41:01
October 08 2018 16:39 GMT
#1042
On October 08 2018 19:53 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2018 01:26 DucK- wrote:
On October 08 2018 01:01 Pandemona wrote:
On October 08 2018 00:22 DucK- wrote:
Wow that Ramsey goal. Still prefer hazard's against Liverpool because this goal felt fluke-ish, in that arsenal didn't have control of the ball during the sequence of passes.

Morata scored! Funny how Chelsea Twitter totally ignored his miss XD

I felt Barkley's goal and assist masked an otherwise average performance. I have again the same issues with him. He doesn't bring the ball forward enough, always looking to release the ball. One particular moment near the 48th minute when he receives a ball from luiz and immediately passed sideways to jorginho despite having loads of space behind him. Luiz was visible frustrated...

I was more impressed by kovacic few minutes. So comfortable and confident with the ball. We really need our centre mids to link with our strikers if we want to proceed forward.

You hate my boy Barkley

I am well and truly biast in favor of Barkley because of potential and him being English, but still his stats today was the best passing accuracy of everyone at 94%. Gave a goal and assist. He played just like Kovacic with his pressing and passing and off the ball runs. Was his best game for us and still not even at his best, believe in him :D


I will not be impressed with him until he starts to make those runs. We already have a passer in jorginho whose role is to play simple passes to our attackers in space to attack. We don't need another of such passer in the field. Funny thing is that he likes to pass back to jorgunho lol.


Are you aware of what the manager's instructions to Barkley might be?

Perhaps it is to ensure possession and maintain position, playing high % passes. Rather than making lots of forward runs with the ball. He definitely has the potential to drive at defenders and make things happen but I imagine he has been told to balance his game and play in a certain way.


Yeah I kinda agree, it might just be in his instructions to play a certain way and let the Willians and Hazards to do more of the running and final ball play. So its unfair to criticize him on that front. There is nothing wrong with having Jorginho and Barkley passing to each other as much as they want as long as that ensure that the game is in control and the passing draws space.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 08 2018 17:44 GMT
#1043
The move in the first half where they were all involved including Barkley, then it goes out to Alonso, inside left to Hazard, skips past one, lays it off to Kante on the edge dead centre who rolls it back to Barkley who is deepest of them all and shoots from 30 yards. I think that is where he wants Barkley to be as he has that potential to score from distance.
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
October 08 2018 22:12 GMT
#1044
On October 08 2018 06:08 Pr0wler wrote:
Lol nobody wants the La Liga title this year. So many mistakes from Madrid and Barca. Sevilla is first.


Sevilla is my main interest in LaLiga in current season :O I just hope they'll remain in the same conditions as long as possible!
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-08 23:20:08
October 08 2018 23:19 GMT
#1045
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-09 00:10:12
October 09 2018 00:07 GMT
#1046


The San Jose Earthquakes have officially named former Chivas Guadalajara manager Matias Almeyda as their new head coach on Monday, a striking appointment for a club laboring in last place in the overall MLS standings.

Originally broken on Sunday night by Joel Soria, editor of Quakes Epicenter, the news was also confirmed by Bay Area-based ESPN FC reporter Jeff Carlisle.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 09 2018 00:22 GMT
#1047
I'd love to know the catch in this contract at San Jose as they are one of the cheapest clubs on the planet. He must know he's about to be hired in a year or two by a national team.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-09 01:57:34
October 09 2018 01:48 GMT
#1048
This is the moment I'm talking about on Barkley.

3:15 he ask for the ball, receives it in acres of space but decides to pass to jorginho. Can't see in the video, but at that moment luiz threw his hands over his head in frustration.

4:07 received the ball from jorginho in space and immediately shirks offensive responsibility by passing back to him

4:15 Chelsea wins the ball back and Barkley has control of it but decides to pass to jorginho to let him start the attack



He does well sometimes, but observing him I keep seeing these moves. So yes his pass % may be high but who cares if its useless short passes to jorginho. We don't need 2 jorginhos in a midfield (+kante lol). We need more from Barkley. More runs, more forward passes etc...

Its funny cuz jorginho is our main man tasked with finding our attackers in space, because he is super good in doing so under pressure. But Barkley keeps slowing down and restarting the process, or maybe he wants to do the same thing??
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-09 07:25:06
October 09 2018 07:24 GMT
#1049
I think you are nitpicking, Barkley barely played any minutes this since arriving at Chelsea, give that the guy a chance.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-09 08:04:59
October 09 2018 08:00 GMT
#1050
Hazard is going to Real Madrid he'd be a fool to stick with Chelsea even if it turns out to be a disaster. Why would Real want to is the big question, on a player who has no La Liga experience and is a little older than say Charly Musonda.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18701 Posts
October 09 2018 14:39 GMT
#1051
Because hazard is super talented
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-09 14:56:47
October 09 2018 14:55 GMT
#1052
I think the question is why wouldn't they want him. He's a top 5 player in his current form and I wouldn't worry about his lack of La Liga experience. He is 27 this year which is not the youngest but can easily play at his peak for the next 5 years.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 09 2018 17:23 GMT
#1053
Hazard aint going to Real if his man Conte rocks up there after Lopetigu is fired xD

Hazard has the ball in his court, can go to any club in world or stay, will be interesting.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 09 2018 20:40 GMT
#1054
Am I misperceiving or does Assoc.football have the biggest problem with hiring unqualified former players as coaches?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51647 Posts
October 10 2018 00:20 GMT
#1055
are you referring to henry being named manager of monaco?
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 10 2018 04:15 GMT
#1056
Yes, and also Zidane, I guess. I have no idea if they have been assistant managers somewhere before or something.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51647 Posts
October 10 2018 04:26 GMT
#1057
zidane was the manager of real madrid's reserve team for 3 years before being promoted to the main squad.
henry has been an assistant coach for the belgium national team since 2016.
Commentator
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 10 2018 05:04 GMT
#1058
Ah, ok.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 10 2018 05:18 GMT
#1059
If hiring a manager whom right off the bat wins the CL 3 times is somehow some kind of 'biggest problem'... i guess footie is well off.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18701 Posts
October 10 2018 05:24 GMT
#1060
On October 10 2018 05:40 Jerubaal wrote:
Am I misperceiving or does Assoc.football have the biggest problem with hiring unqualified former players as coaches?


problem as in winning several prestige trophies in each of his seasons (Zidane)?
I guess other sports dont want their teams to win things? :o
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